So, if we *did* trade Rondo for Gasol, what PGs could we land?

[Roy H.]

What are our options, and who would we trade to get them?

Maybe Ramon Sessions, for Keyon Dooling, cash, and a pick?

Acquire Steve Blake in the Lakers deal?

There are plenty of other underperforming PGs (Ray Felton, Jameer Nelson, etc.) but I'm not sure that there's a reasonable way to acquire them.

[Eja117]

I've heard there's this young guy who is like the best on the ball defender you've ever seen. He full court presses all-stars the entire game and it ticks them off and it infects the rest of the team with guts.  The best part is he's totally affordable and only 20 years old. He's also a halfway decent shooter, and can possibly pan out if he just gets more opportunities and confidence and encouragement. He was like the top recruit in the country a couple years ago but came out a little early and just tore up the d league.  And on the fastbreak just fogedaboudit. The dude posterized Durant just last week.

He's probably going to be hard to get ahold of, but I'd really like to get him

Other than that I like Sessions and am kinda curious about Grevious Vasquez. And Shelvin Mack

[Eja117]

Maybe Eric Maynor, Reggie Jackson, or Eric Bledsoe can be had cheap

[birdbrady]

I've heard there's this young guy who is like the best on the ball defender you've ever seen. He full court presses all-stars the entire game and it ticks them off and it infects the rest of the team with guts.  The best part is he's totally affordable and only 20 years old. He's also a halfway decent shooter, and can possibly pan out if he just gets more opportunities and confidence and encouragement. He was like the top recruit in the country a couple years ago but came out a little early and just tore up the d league.  And on the fastbreak just fogedaboudit. The dude posterized Durant just last week.

He's probably going to be hard to get ahold of, but I'd really like to get him

He has a 7 PER.  He'd immediately become the worst starting PG in the league.

[Roy H.]

I've heard there's this young guy who is like the best on the ball defender you've ever seen. He full court presses all-stars the entire game and it ticks them off and it infects the rest of the team with guts.  The best part is he's totally affordable and only 20 years old. He's also a halfway decent shooter, and can possibly pan out if he just gets more opportunities and confidence and encouragement. He was like the top recruit in the country a couple years ago but came out a little early and just tore up the d league.  And on the fastbreak just fogedaboudit. The dude posterized Durant just last week.

He's probably going to be hard to get ahold of, but I'd really like to get him

Even if Bradley was handed the starting role, he'd still need a more competent backup than Dooling or Moore.  However, I don't think Bradley is ready as a full-time starter on a win-now playoff team.  He's too inconsistent, and he's too foul prone.  We need somebody who can be a steady fifth option on offense and who can get the team into its offense.

[Edgar]

There are plenty of other underperforming PGs (Ray Felton, Jameer Nelson,

i will ignore this part....

[Eja117]

I've heard there's this young guy who is like the best on the ball defender you've ever seen. He full court presses all-stars the entire game and it ticks them off and it infects the rest of the team with guts.  The best part is he's totally affordable and only 20 years old. He's also a halfway decent shooter, and can possibly pan out if he just gets more opportunities and confidence and encouragement. He was like the top recruit in the country a couple years ago but came out a little early and just tore up the d league.  And on the fastbreak just fogedaboudit. The dude posterized Durant just last week.

He's probably going to be hard to get ahold of, but I'd really like to get him

He has a 7 PER.  He'd immediately become the worst starting PG in the league.

Well I can believe PERs or my own lying eyes.  He's 20. I don't expect instant all starness. I'm sort of accepting the concept of rebuilding. I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I just don't think you win rings with PERs. I think defense wins more. Otherwise I imagine Lebron would have a bunch of rings, but instead KG, Duncan, and Kobe do. They probably have pretty high PERs but still

[rondohondo]

yea they won't be able to replace Rondo this year , but there are a lot of quality free agent PG's next year

Deron Williams   UFA
Steve Nash       UFA
Aaron Brooks     RFA
Raymond Felton   UFA
Andre Miller     UFA
Chauncey Billups UFA


I like the Idea of a PG who can shoot and run an offense . Williams , Nash and Brooks all bring that to the table IMO. I like the idea of Bradley backing these guys up as a lock down defender and give opposing teams a different look at the PG position throughout the game .

It does make some sense to me to see if you could trade Rondo for another all-star player at a different position . I like the Gasol trade, but he is just to old IMO .If you could trade Rondo for Big Al and a draft pick or something like that, I would strongly consider it .

Like I said the PG position is pretty deep for free agents so trading Rondo now for another solid piece could be a very smart move in the long run .

[Eja117]

I've heard there's this young guy who is like the best on the ball defender you've ever seen. He full court presses all-stars the entire game and it ticks them off and it infects the rest of the team with guts.  The best part is he's totally affordable and only 20 years old. He's also a halfway decent shooter, and can possibly pan out if he just gets more opportunities and confidence and encouragement. He was like the top recruit in the country a couple years ago but came out a little early and just tore up the d league.  And on the fastbreak just fogedaboudit. The dude posterized Durant just last week.

He's probably going to be hard to get ahold of, but I'd really like to get him

Even if Bradley was handed the starting role, he'd still need a more competent backup than Dooling or Moore.  However, I don't think Bradley is ready as a full-time starter on a win-now playoff team.  He's too inconsistent, and he's too foul prone.  We need somebody who can be a steady fifth option on offense and who can get the team into its offense.

Trade away Rondo in an attempt to be a win now playoff team? Wow. That will take some thinking. Maayyyybbbbeeeeee Danny could pull a jedi mind trick on Washington and be like

"You want to trade me John Wall. You're afraid he's unhappy and won't resign. You want Rondo instead. He has a good contract."

Seems like a loooonnnnggggshot, but I could see how it could be worth the call. An all star with a ring for a young headcase unhappy kid?  Just as a framework.

[pearljammer10]

What are our options, and who would we trade to get them?

Maybe Ramon Sessions, for Keyon Dooling, cash, and a pick?

Acquire Steve Blake in the Lakers deal?

There are plenty of other underperforming PGs (Ray Felton, Jameer Nelson, etc.) but I'm not sure that there's a reasonable way to acquire them.

This would be my biggest problem. Getting Gasol would be a great addition, but that would leave a huge hole at point guard and I dont know what we have to trade or offer to bring anyone else here that would make a contending impact.

[Roy H.]

I've heard there's this young guy who is like the best on the ball defender you've ever seen. He full court presses all-stars the entire game and it ticks them off and it infects the rest of the team with guts.  The best part is he's totally affordable and only 20 years old. He's also a halfway decent shooter, and can possibly pan out if he just gets more opportunities and confidence and encouragement. He was like the top recruit in the country a couple years ago but came out a little early and just tore up the d league.  And on the fastbreak just fogedaboudit. The dude posterized Durant just last week.

He's probably going to be hard to get ahold of, but I'd really like to get him

Even if Bradley was handed the starting role, he'd still need a more competent backup than Dooling or Moore.  However, I don't think Bradley is ready as a full-time starter on a win-now playoff team.  He's too inconsistent, and he's too foul prone.  We need somebody who can be a steady fifth option on offense and who can get the team into its offense.

Trade away Rondo in an attempt to be a win now playoff team? Wow. That will take some thinking. Maayyyybbbbeeeeee Danny could pull a jedi mind trick on Washington and be like

"You want to trade me John Wall. You're afraid he's unhappy and won't resign. You want Rondo instead. He has a good contract."

Seems like a loooonnnnggggshot, but I could see how it could be worth the call. An all star with a ring for a young headcase unhappy kid?  Just as a framework.

?

The "win now" part comes from trading for Gasol.  If we did that, we'd need a decent fifth option at PG, better than Bradley.  Somebody capable of playing a lesser role, sort of like 2008 Rondo, or maybe slightly lesser.

[the_Bird]

Acquiring Steve Blake in the same deal would be pretty easy; adding Blake and Dooling to the deal, the numbers still work.  Of course, that commits you to Steve Blake for another two seasons, so you'd probably ask LA to throw in a draft pick.

EDIT: And I'd do this deal every day of the week; it's a lot easier to contend with a dominant frontcourt and a Blake/Sessions type manning the point (with Pierce also playing point-forward) than with what the team's doing now.

Perversely, *not* having cap space this offseason (since we'd be committing to Pau and Blake) would also do something else - potentially increase the chance of resigning Ray/KG.  If we aren't going to have cap space anyway, we won't have to renounce their Bird rights. 

[birdbrady]

]Well I can believe PERs or my own lying eyes.  He's 20. I don't expect instant all starness.

I don't expect instant starness, either.  Listen, I *like* Bradley, but he's not a starter on any team in the league at this point.  He's Tony Allen with a little more ballhandling skills, and 3 inches shorter.  He's not a starting PG.

I'm sort of accepting the concept of rebuilding.

But this team would not be thinking about 'rebuilding' if they traded for a 31 year old Pau Gasol.

I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I just don't think you win rings with PERs. I think defense wins more. Otherwise I imagine Lebron would have a bunch of rings, but instead KG, Duncan, and Kobe do. They probably have pretty high PERs but still

Yea they had PERs higher than 7 dude.  And so did their starting PGs at the time.  I think Bradley is a decent player and is going to get better.  But come on, stats say it and so does watching him play.  If you think we play 4 on 5 with Rondo now at the end of games, it will get that much worse with Bradley.  As of now he's a nice guy to mix it up with off the bench to give an opposing PG some pressure.  But your starting PG on a win now team?! As Heinsohn would say "Aw, gimme a break!!"

[Eja117]

I've heard there's this young guy who is like the best on the ball defender you've ever seen. He full court presses all-stars the entire game and it ticks them off and it infects the rest of the team with guts.  The best part is he's totally affordable and only 20 years old. He's also a halfway decent shooter, and can possibly pan out if he just gets more opportunities and confidence and encouragement. He was like the top recruit in the country a couple years ago but came out a little early and just tore up the d league.  And on the fastbreak just fogedaboudit. The dude posterized Durant just last week.

He's probably going to be hard to get ahold of, but I'd really like to get him

Even if Bradley was handed the starting role, he'd still need a more competent backup than Dooling or Moore.  However, I don't think Bradley is ready as a full-time starter on a win-now playoff team.  He's too inconsistent, and he's too foul prone.  We need somebody who can be a steady fifth option on offense and who can get the team into its offense.

Trade away Rondo in an attempt to be a win now playoff team? Wow. That will take some thinking. Maayyyybbbbeeeeee Danny could pull a jedi mind trick on Washington and be like

"You want to trade me John Wall. You're afraid he's unhappy and won't resign. You want Rondo instead. He has a good contract."

Seems like a loooonnnnggggshot, but I could see how it could be worth the call. An all star with a ring for a young headcase unhappy kid?  Just as a framework.

?

The "win now" part comes from trading for Gasol.  If we did that, we'd need a decent fifth option at PG, better than Bradley.  Somebody capable of playing a lesser role, sort of like 2008 Rondo, or maybe slightly lesser.

I admit I'm slowly catching up to this thread, but I don't see trading Rondo for Gasol as any kind of win now move. I mean it sorta is only because you sure as heck wouldn't be winning later.

I guess your plan of getting Sessions is about as good a plan as any.

[clover]

I've heard there's this young guy who is like the best on the ball defender you've ever seen. He full court presses all-stars the entire game and it ticks them off and it infects the rest of the team with guts.  The best part is he's totally affordable and only 20 years old. He's also a halfway decent shooter, and can possibly pan out if he just gets more opportunities and confidence and encouragement. He was like the top recruit in the country a couple years ago but came out a little early and just tore up the d league.  And on the fastbreak just fogedaboudit. The dude posterized Durant just last week.

He's probably going to be hard to get ahold of, but I'd really like to get him

Other than that I like Sessions and am kinda curious about Grevious Vasquez. And Shelvin Mack

I do think it has told Doc and Danny something that they've won so many with AB starting--as long as KG is in there.