Utah/Boston good trade partners: What could Rondo fetch?

[PosImpos]

I'm guessing Utah would offer Devin Harris, Gordon Hayward, and a 1st rounder.

The rule of thumb with Rondo trades is the other team is probably willing to part with one major piece fewer than you'd expect them to give up for Rondo.  In this case, I don't think they'd be willing to move any of their frontcourt players for him.

[goCeltics]

no way i am trading rondo for al and harris and hayward, thanks but no thanks.

if am trading rondo i want favors or kanter simple.

[csfansince60s]

no way i am trading rondo for al and harris and hayward, thanks but no thanks.

if am trading rondo i want favors or kanter simple.

No way does Utah part with Kanter or Favors. They are their future. Jefferson is in their way and is not part of their future.

All I know is that we could use 75% of Big Al's 18.5ppg, 9.25 rpg, 2.4 apg and 1.62 blocks per game.

In addition, both Jefferson and Harris expire in '13. That gives us huge cap flexibility both this year with KG/Ray expiring and next with BigAl/Harris expiring.

It keeps us competitive this year and next and for the future.

[csfansince60s]

I'm guessing Utah would offer Devin Harris, Gordon Hayward, and a 1st rounder.

The rule of thumb with Rondo trades is the other team is probably willing to part with one major piece fewer than you'd expect them to give up for Rondo.  In this case, I don't think they'd be willing to move any of their frontcourt players for him.

 I agree with your "one major piece" point. I think Jefferson would be that major piece though and that Harris, who is in a funk and being shopped is a minor piece.

I think bfrombleacher had it right when he said it would be like Jefferson for Rondo and Bass for Harris. Bass is a far better value contract-wise and most likely he opts out and expires, so he's just a rental. In the meantime, he adds back a little of what AlJeff's numbers were, while making more time for Kanter/Milsap to develop and along with JO and Doolings expirings gives Utah more room to maneuver.

[goCeltics]

no way i am trading rondo for al and harris and hayward, thanks but no thanks.

if am trading rondo i want favors or kanter simple.

No way does Utah part with Kanter or Favors. They are their future. Jefferson is in their way and is not part of their future.

All I know is that we could use 75% of Big Al's 18.5ppg, 9.25 rpg, 2.4 apg and 1.62 blocks per game.

In addition, both Jefferson and Harris expire in '13. That gives us huge cap flexibility both this year with KG/Ray expiring and next with BigAl/Harris expiring.

It keeps us competitive this year and next and for the future.

no favors or kanter no deal, i love al but i am not trading rondo for al and i am not certainly trading rondo for al at the same time taking harris's crap contract.

so we trade for an inferior player and picks up a bad contract sounds like something isiah would do.

[goCeltics]

btw jazz just lost today by 15+ to the thunder. thanks but no thanks.

[csfansince60s]

Interesting reading on bleacherreport:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1064894-utah-jazz-and-boston-celtics-perfect-trading-partners

via Realgm:

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1161231.

They propose Rondo and Ray for Milsap, Harris and Bell. We give up way too much here for me.

We need a center. We don't need a 4. AlJeff would have to be included in any trade for Rondo and a pick or Hayward/Burks. Otherwise why bother, unless we are blowing it up

[Eddie20]

Interesting reading on bleacherreport:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1064894-utah-jazz-and-boston-celtics-perfect-trading-partners

via Realgm:

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1161231.

They propose Rondo and Ray for Milsap, Harris and Bell. We give up way too much here for me.

We need a center. We don't need a 4. AlJeff would have to be included in any trade for Rondo and a pick or Hayward/Burks. Otherwise why bother, unless we are blowing it up

Don't know why we do that at all. If we're going to take on Harris' contract I rather do this:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7oj9863

Millsap/Harris  for   Rondo/JO

However, I would only entertain that if we were getting back a 1st rd pick this year.

[southshorematt]

You DO NOT trade Rondo

[celts55]

You DO NOT trade Rondo

I would to get Jefferson back. I still think he's a special player and would love to see him back on the Celtics. While I love Rondo's game, when he feels like playing his inconsistancy makes me crazy. He seems totally disinterested some games. I just don't get that.

[2short]

You DO NOT trade Rondo

I would to get Jefferson back. I still think he's a special player and would love to see him back on the Celtics. While I love Rondo's game, when he feels like playing his inconsistancy makes me crazy. He seems totally disinterested some games. I just don't get that.

a special player is a guy who nearly averaged a triple double in a playoffs series
Al is going to be leaving Utah in the near future    he is overpaid for what he adds to a team.  Great low post moves, needs to learn to pass out of a double team and play better defense.
If we are blowing it up then we think about trading rondo.  Put his payroll against the top pg's in nba , like or dislike rondo you can't argue value.  He's a steal at his contract when you look at others.

[kozlodoev]

You DO NOT trade Rondo

Oh, you do. Just not for anything that Utah has to offer right now.

[Celtic#9]

You DO NOT trade Rondo

Why? If Utah has something to offer and I was Danny I would want to hear what they have to say.

[biggbird]

i'd relatively happily do rondo + bass for big al + hayward

we all know what we're getting in big al, a consistent low post scoring threat. in hayward we get someone who can either start or backup at both the 2 and 3 spots, and is a great shooter.

if you could somehow engineer this to grab a first round pick from utah as well, then all the sweeter. we might be without a brilliant PG for this year, but PP has showed he can play point-forward passing well, and bradley is not as bad as some of you think (his defense is fantastic, and offense is maturing).

if we can get a first rounder from the jazz too, for some other piece, then we can either move up in the draft to get one of the top-rated PG prospects, or select one of the ones going later in the first round. sounds like this draft is going to be stacked no matter where you pick, so the more picks we can get, the better.

it hurts to lose rondo, he's my favourite player in the league by far, but i think this might make us a more competitive team. we just really dont have many post-up, but rather a team full of jump shooters. big al makes it easier to spread the floor ala dwight howard (not the same level, i know, but its the principle of the thing ) and thus make best use of ray + PP (who is also legit in the post, to be fair) + pietrus +  dooling etc.

[Rtpas11]

why not

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7suqupa

Nets: also send Humphrey's to Utah