Utah/Boston good trade partners: What could Rondo fetch?

[chambers]

I'd want Millsap, Kanter or Favors.
Millsap it the most likely of those three- although Favors would be good because of his price.
I'd also want their pick from Golden State that they acquired in the Favors/Williams trade with the Nets:

Utah Jazz: Receives Golden State’s 2012 first-round pick (top-7 protected in 2012 and 2013, top-6 protected in 2014, else 2014 and 2016 second-round picks) via Utah (from the Marcus Williams trade on 9/29/09) from the Deron Williams trade on 2/23/11.

They can keep Harris, he completely sucks. But I guess if we are going to get that pick then we should try and stay young/kinda garbage so we go lottery bound.
So Kanter, the Golden State pick and Harris works for me.
Then we move Ray and Pierce and get our hands on the Bulls first round pick from Charlotte.
We'd get some nice picks from this and be on our way to a decently paced rebuild with Kanter and the two top 10 picks, although the Charlotte pick might have to wait 2 years, so meh

[esel1000]

I was just on the Jazz board they're all over the idea of getting rondo, meaning that if their GM is as desperate as the fans are (which he has to be) if DA is trying to make a big trade (and by big it would need to have rondo) the Jazz would seem like the perfect team...

I hate harris, but if we could get some quality size and picks in a trade at this point I think I'd take it, especially if it somehow sets us up for a good draft pick (they have a GSW pick which is very interesting). And we could pray that harris just hates the Jazz and is playing badly cause he doesnt want to be there...though it is a gamble...

[Change]

I was just on the Jazz board they're all over the idea of getting rondo, meaning that if their GM is as desperate as the fans are (which he has to be) if DA is trying to make a big trade (and by big it would need to have rondo) the Jazz would seem like the perfect team...

I hate harris, but if we could get some quality size and picks in a trade at this point I think I'd take it, especially if it somehow sets us up for a good draft pick (they have a GSW pick which is very interesting). And we could pray that harris just hates the Jazz and is playing badly cause he doesnt want to be there...though it is a gamble...

I agree Utah is ideal team to trade Rondo. Celtics can receiver a lot in return good young player+draft picks. Which Board?

[arctic 3.0]

katner is the ideal target. if we could find a way to land him and say earl watson for rondo and bass?
would need to add pieces to make it work.

[arctic 3.0]

k i think i got it
2 part trade
1: trade rondo jjjj to utah for katner, raja and watson
2: trade allen for me met okur's trade exception

utah gets vet allen (expiring equal to okurs exception) and run and gun rondo plus prospect in jjj
we get huge potential beast in katner, solid defender at the shooting guard and vet point rental in watson...

ketner is locked up for 3 years after this season, raja and watson expire next year (in time for deep FA class.)

watson, bradley/moore
bell, md
pierce, mp
KG, bass
katner, jo


2nd round exit this year
build around kanter, 2 years of good cap space and picks
everyone happy?

[CFAN38]

D Harris and a pick for Rondo...

I would make this a draft day trade Utah has two first round picks that will likely both be top 12. Come draft day we could send rondo to utah for D Harris and one of there firsts. With Favors and Kantor already projects on there roster Utah likely wont want another PF. If they use one of there 1st on a SF say Barnes or Kidd-Gillcrest then they would be left to pick a guard with there second pick. I could easily see them deciding to trade for Rondo instead of drafting a guard. They could then try to move Jefferson for a SG to round out there starting lineup

Favors
Milsau
Barnes
Miles
Rondo

If needed the Cs could even throw in a later 1st round pick but I don't think they would need to.

Harris would only be on the books for 1 more year, which is the same as pierce.   

[csfansince60s]

why not

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7suqupa

Nets: also send Humphrey's to Utah

Don't think Utah gives up both Favors and Milsap for what they get back.

[csfansince60s]

no way i am trading rondo for al and harris and hayward, thanks but no thanks.

if am trading rondo i want favors or kanter simple.

No way does Utah part with Kanter or Favors. They are their future. Jefferson is in their way and is not part of their future.

All I know is that we could use 75% of Big Al's 18.5ppg, 9.25 rpg, 2.4 apg and 1.62 blocks per game.

In addition, both Jefferson and Harris expire in '13. That gives us huge cap flexibility both this year with KG/Ray expiring and next with BigAl/Harris expiring.

It keeps us competitive this year and next and for the future.

Harris, I feel, is a key component to this trade, or any we have with Utah. As I have stated in the OP, Utah has all the things we can use as assets: youngs, unneeded (Al, since they want Favors/Kanter to get more time) or unwanted {DHarris) vets who can stll produce, so are undervalued by them and picks.

Harris is lightning quick and can still play by both driving and dishing and can shoot. He is not performing in Utah (He is a career 80% freethrow shooter and for the first 20 games or so was shooting 68%). We would be buying low on him.

If we throw Pierce in the deal, if we use JO to get Beasley, I can see us getting ALJeff and Harris as well as at least one if not both of their first rounders this year as well as either Hayward or Burks.

Our cap flexibility remains huge for two consecutive years with KG/Ray expiring this year and AlJeff and Harris expiring next year.

I am amazed at how many people cite rebounding and scoring as reasons to get Gasol when Al can do both almost equally as well and we get a pg in Harris thrown in too. Harris would surprise a lot of people here with how well he can play.

Utah does this to get the point guard of now and the future whom they need badly and instant contender status with the combination of Pierce and Rondo with their young studs.

[dmopower]

I believe that there is a good chance that we make a deal with Utah. I like Milsap but we need someone to play Center also so I see us getting AJ back. His weak defense can only get better playing next to KG and with KG's range AJ will have room to operate on offense. Devin Harris also makes sense as he can get the ball over half court easily and spreads the court with his range forcing the opponents to play defense on the entire floor paint to 3 point line and beyond. This will also make for better passing and cutting lanes as the D is stretched.

 It's sad but I believe it happens. Hell rebounding and points in the paint are our biggest flaws right now.

 The Dr.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I'd consider Harris, Kanter and Favors and their picks, maybe add CJ Miles in as well.

No to Millsap, we have a similar player in Bass, and is cheaper.

NO TO AL JEFFERSON. He's a double double guy alright, but I don't want no black hole no defense double-double on my team.

[dmopower]

Actually he is averaging a career high in assist at 2 a game and a career low in to's and for the 15 games in February he avg 19.5 pts,  9.7 Rbs, 2.4 assist and 1.0 to's  Thats a 2.4 to 1 to ratio. Just saying.  We could do a lot worse than adding AJ to our front line.

[csfansince60s]

I'd consider Harris, Kanter and Favors and their picks, maybe add CJ Miles in as well.

No to Millsap, we have a similar player in Bass, and is cheaper.

NO TO AL JEFFERSON. He's a double double guy alright, but I don't want no black hole no defense double-double on my team.

For the black hole/no defense part I hear you. My first choice would be Gasol because he brings more to the table. Therefore he costs more meaning not only do we give the Fakers Rondo, but also, most likely one of our picks.

Trading for AlJeff would actually bring a pick or two our way  and a point guard in Harris and when his contract expires next yearalong with Harris we get cap flexibility next year to for Ainge to make moves to (re)build our team.

Highly unlikely Utah gives us Favors or Kanter as they are the reason that they are moving BigAl, so they can get more PT.

[csfansince60s]

Actually he is averaging a career high in assist at 2 a game and a career low in to's and for the 15 games in February he avg 19.5 pts,  9.7 Rbs, 2.4 assist and 1.0 to's  Thats a 2.4 to 1 to ratio. Just saying.  We could do a lot worse than adding AJ to our front line.

TP dm, I was aware of BigAl's stats too. Impressive to me in two areas of dire need for us:rebounding and inside scoring, but also in TOs and assists. Was gonna argue those stats too, but some folks assessment of certain players (like AlJeffs) game can't be changed.

My argument is that even conceding that he is a black hole and plays no D (I think he averages almost 2 blocks per game, and at the very least would clog up the middle)he is stll a good value.