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Re: Wilcox starting
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2012, 11:43:59 PM »

Offline wiley

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well, I agree completely.  Wilcox should start.

You can't have 4 old guys on the court together.....

And then we end up, at certain moments, with bench units with too little experience.
Then things get rough for a minute and the solution is to put our old experienced
players back in en masse.  It's time to mix up or old and new players and throw
tradition out the window.

Wilcox and Pietrus start.  Pierce off the bench.  Yup I said it.  Our lone all-star off the bench
for big minutes.

Let Pierce have the ball and do his thing while Avery is at PG.  Then, as the game moves forward, things will ease back towards normal, traditional Celtic units...
BUT:  only have 4 old players on the floor at once if they're super rested...Otherwise don't do it.

Limit or outlaw having KG and Jermaine on the floor simultaneously.  And divide up Paul and Ray somewhat too, but not as much as KG and Jermaine.

Re: Wilcox starting
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2012, 12:15:32 AM »

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if miami can start anthony we can star wilcox

Re: Wilcox starting
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2012, 06:50:58 AM »

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I would like to see him start from now on and have JO come off the bench.

If on most nights he plays like he did against the Bulls yesterday, I completely agree.  JO actually might be better coming off the bench.

Re: Wilcox starting
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2012, 07:12:43 AM »

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Dont agree with starting Wilcox.

Defensively we are much stronger with KG at the 4, and JO at the 5.

JO is by far the superior defender (and our best interior defender).  He can body up bigs better than both KG and Wilcox.  He is also a better rebounder (although i dont think the stats will back me up on that).

Wilcox has value as an energy guy, something that needs to come from the bench. 

I'm guessing the reasoning for him starting would be his ability to run the break, which could be utilised by pairing up with Rondo.

However, by starting the game, arent transition opportunities usually minimised?  I know they dont have to be, but you dont usually see flurries of turnovers or fastbreaks in the first 6 mins of each half?

I just think our big man rotation as it currently stands is spot-on.

Re: Wilcox starting
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2012, 08:05:01 AM »

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I don't think it matters that much who starts.  Even if Wilcox comes off the bench, he can still play more minutes than Jermaine O'Neal.  I think a more interesting question is if Wilcox should play over Bass and O'Neal in the fourth quarter crunch time line up.

  To me it does matter who starts.  We are starting 4 inferior athletes out of five starting spots.  We need more athleticism because it creates easy baskets.   We need another athlete because it allows Rondo to be Rondo rather then relegating him to being half the player he is capable of being.  Starting four old guys wont get it done against the better teams in the NBA.

  If JO were giving us anything other then solid defensive positioning it would be different but he's not.  He's not a guy who can get rebounds unless they fall into his lap.  He gives us nothing on offense.  He runs the court at half speed.  He's not bringing enough to the table.

Re: Wilcox starting
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2012, 08:56:11 AM »

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I don't think it matters that much who starts.  Even if Wilcox comes off the bench, he can still play more minutes than Jermaine O'Neal.  I think a more interesting question is if Wilcox should play over Bass and O'Neal in the fourth quarter crunch time line up.

  To me it does matter who starts.  We are starting 4 inferior athletes out of five starting spots.  We need more athleticism because it creates easy baskets.   We need another athlete because it allows Rondo to be Rondo rather then relegating him to being half the player he is capable of being.  Starting four old guys wont get it done against the better teams in the NBA.

  If JO were giving us anything other then solid defensive positioning it would be different but he's not.  He's not a guy who can get rebounds unless they fall into his lap.  He gives us nothing on offense.  He runs the court at half speed.  He's not bringing enough to the table.
Um. Wilcox is not an inferior athlete.
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Re: Wilcox starting
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2012, 09:33:07 AM »

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Very sad to have missed the Bulls game, but I've been carrying on that Wilcox is our ace in the hole on the front line for a while.  He has the size and mobility, plus a nice touch around the hoop to make an impact.  I think the size and inside touch bring more to the table than Bass' jumper does.  I guess we'll see.

Also agree with the idea of starting Wilcox and Pietrus ahead of Ray and JO to balance out the rosters.  The only thing that concerns me is that it seemed that Wilcox spent a lot of time in Toronto talking to Doc on the sidelines.  I don't think he fully knows the systems yet.  Playing more will probably help that.

Injuries suck, but I'm glad to have a chance to see what we have with Wilcox.

Re: Wilcox starting
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2012, 09:33:27 AM »

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I don't think it matters that much who starts.  Even if Wilcox comes off the bench, he can still play more minutes than Jermaine O'Neal.  I think a more interesting question is if Wilcox should play over Bass and O'Neal in the fourth quarter crunch time line up.

  To me it does matter who starts.  We are starting 4 inferior athletes out of five starting spots.  We need more athleticism because it creates easy baskets.   We need another athlete because it allows Rondo to be Rondo rather then relegating him to being half the player he is capable of being.  Starting four old guys wont get it done against the better teams in the NBA.

  If JO were giving us anything other then solid defensive positioning it would be different but he's not.  He's not a guy who can get rebounds unless they fall into his lap.  He gives us nothing on offense.  He runs the court at half speed.  He's not bringing enough to the table.
Um. Wilcox is not an inferior athlete.

  Did I say he was?  Nope.  I was referring to JO.  When JO starts we start 4 guys who are at an athletic disadvantage head to head in almost every game.  You cannot over come that against the better teams.

Re: Wilcox starting
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2012, 09:46:24 AM »

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   Wilcox is a great energy guy to have come off the bench.  He can come in give us offensive boards, 50/50 balls and fast break points.  No way should he start especially over JO.  He is also exactly the size of Carmelo Anthony not even a legit 6'10.
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