Rondo for Jimmer & company!

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can't even respond to this one 

[wdleehi]

No. Jimmer is horrible. He's going to be lucky to have a Hedo Turkoglu career, at best.

I think you are severely overestimating Jimmer.  


He is no JJ Redick.

[KG_ended_Bias]

Omg! You guys are hilarious. Jimmer is far from horrible, I actually watch the games a little. And even his box scores doesn't translate horrible. He plays for a horrible team with horrible coaches is more accurate. Adam Morrison couldn't dribble, had no energy due to his diabetes making it tough on him, and he had no basketball savvy really. Once the ball hit Morrison hands it never left until it was airborne in a shot attempt. PG take time to mature in the NBA unless you have a team full of veterans who can provide him security which the Celtics did for Rondo. Sacramento wouldn't be the ideal scenario with a bunch of me 1st playes in Cousins,Evans & the ever gunning Thornton. I do watch games & Jimmer has not fit there.

[BballTim]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7lmj6na

Are People Here In CB Blind? THE MAIN GOAL IN THIS TRADE IS TO GET THE TOP 5 PICK!!! +we will have 3 1rd picks, and it'll be a good draft variety. I promise you guys with this trade, we will stay in the league competition for years to come!

Ottawa Celtic people are not blind they are just opposed to change. They clearly dont see the kind of talent I see coming back at the back end of this deal. Barnes, Gilchrist, Randolph, Rivers. And on top of that replace the position you are trading with a guy with upside potential. I saw BAD celtic ball from 94-2007. Don't wanna see mediocre years with Rondo stat padding 3-4years from now.

  Haha. Here's something fairly obvious that both of you aren't getting. Right now the Kings are the 5th worst team in the league with 6 wins. There are another 6 teams with 1-2 more wins than the Kings. You're sending them by far the best player in the trade. You won't likely be getting back a TOP 5 PICK, more likely something outside the bottom 10.

[wdleehi]

Omg! You guys are hilarious. Jimmer is far from horrible, I actually watch the games a little. And even his box scores doesn't translate horrible. He plays for a horrible team with horrible coaches is more accurate. Adam Morrison couldn't dribble, had no energy due to his diabetes making it tough on him, and he had no basketball savvy really. Once the ball hit Morrison hands it never left until it was airborne in a shot attempt. PG take time to mature in the NBA unless you have a team full of veterans who can provide him security which the Celtics did for Rondo. Sacramento wouldn't be the ideal scenario with a bunch of me 1st playes in Cousins,Evans & the ever gunning Thornton. I do watch games & Jimmer has not fit there.

He is slow

He is small.

For a PG, his assists to to ratio is terrible,


For a shooter, shooting under 40% is not good.  




He has done nothing in the NBA that warrants trade Rondo for him.  

His numbers are closer to Morrison then a PG who will be successful.  


And Rondo's first year, it was not a veteran team.  

[KG_ended_Bias]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7lmj6na

Are People Here In CB Blind? THE MAIN GOAL IN THIS TRADE IS TO GET THE TOP 5 PICK!!! +we will have 3 1rd picks, and it'll be a good draft variety. I promise you guys with this trade, we will stay in the league competition for years to come!

Ottawa Celtic people are not blind they are just opposed to change. They clearly dont see the kind of talent I see coming back at the back end of this deal. Barnes, Gilchrist, Randolph, Rivers. And on top of that replace the position you are trading with a guy with upside potential. I saw BAD celtic ball from 94-2007. Don't wanna see mediocre years with Rondo stat padding 3-4years from now.

  Haha. Here's something fairly obvious that both of you aren't getting. Right now the Kings are the 5th worst team in the league with 6 wins. There are another 6 teams with 1-2 more wins than the Kings. You're sending them by far the best player in the trade. You won't likely be getting back a TOP 5 PICK, more likely something outside the bottom 10.

im not missing that at all. 3 first round picks can net you just about anyone you want. If guess you missed that. Lottery balls are rarely awarded to the worst team. Remember it cost us Durant!

[wdleehi]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7lmj6na

Are People Here In CB Blind? THE MAIN GOAL IN THIS TRADE IS TO GET THE TOP 5 PICK!!! +we will have 3 1rd picks, and it'll be a good draft variety. I promise you guys with this trade, we will stay in the league competition for years to come!

Ottawa Celtic people are not blind they are just opposed to change. They clearly dont see the kind of talent I see coming back at the back end of this deal. Barnes, Gilchrist, Randolph, Rivers. And on top of that replace the position you are trading with a guy with upside potential. I saw BAD celtic ball from 94-2007. Don't wanna see mediocre years with Rondo stat padding 3-4years from now.

  Haha. Here's something fairly obvious that both of you aren't getting. Right now the Kings are the 5th worst team in the league with 6 wins. There are another 6 teams with 1-2 more wins than the Kings. You're sending them by far the best player in the trade. You won't likely be getting back a TOP 5 PICK, more likely something outside the bottom 10.

im not missing that at all. 3 first round picks can net you just about anyone you want. If guess you missed that. Lottery balls are rarely awarded to the worst team. Remember it cost us Durant!

So, you trade Rondo so the Celtics can be in the Lotto for a team that currently has the 5th most balls and the next 6 teams have no more then 2 more wins? 

This could be the team with the 11th best chance to win and team 12, 13 and 14 win.  Next thing you know, the Celtics traded Rondo for the 14th pick in the draft. 



It makes no sense.  You have an all star level, young PG.  Teams do not trade them mid season in hopes of hitting it big in the lotto.

[Fafnir]

Yeah it'd have to be a draft day trade for it to make much sense. Too much risk to move Rondo for a lottery pick and a weak prospect before then.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Omg! You guys are hilarious. Jimmer is far from horrible, I actually watch the games a little. And even his box scores doesn't translate horrible. He plays for a horrible team with horrible coaches is more accurate. Adam Morrison couldn't dribble, had no energy due to his diabetes making it tough on him, and he had no basketball savvy really. Once the ball hit Morrison hands it never left until it was airborne in a shot attempt. PG take time to mature in the NBA unless you have a team full of veterans who can provide him security which the Celtics did for Rondo. Sacramento wouldn't be the ideal scenario with a bunch of me 1st playes in Cousins,Evans & the ever gunning Thornton. I do watch games & Jimmer has not fit there.

He is slow

He is small.

For a PG, his assists to to ratio is terrible,


For a shooter, shooting under 40% is not good.  




He has done nothing in the NBA that warrants trade Rondo for him.  

His numbers are closer to Morrison then a PG who will be successful.  


And Rondo's first year, it was not a veteran team.  

It's not really Jimmer who's the prize here. It's the top pick. Jimmer has room to grow but like I said, we need another atleast SG size PG who can handle PG duties and defend SG's, while we convert Jimmer as some sort of a SG at the PG spot.

The pick on the other hand is intriguing. It could be top 5, could be a straight up star in the future.

But again, no pass first PG who's atleast 6'4'', no trade. So it's a hard sell, but not really a bad idea. At least for me.

[KG_ended_Bias]

Omg! You guys are hilarious. Jimmer is far from horrible, I actually watch the games a little. And even his box scores doesn't translate horrible. He plays for a horrible team with horrible coaches is more accurate. Adam Morrison couldn't dribble, had no energy due to his diabetes making it tough on him, and he had no basketball savvy really. Once the ball hit Morrison hands it never left until it was airborne in a shot attempt. PG take time to mature in the NBA unless you have a team full of veterans who can provide him security which the Celtics did for Rondo. Sacramento wouldn't be the ideal scenario with a bunch of me 1st playes in Cousins,Evans & the ever gunning Thornton. I do watch games & Jimmer has not fit there.

He is slow

He is small.

For a PG, his assists to to ratio is terrible,


For a shooter, shooting under 40% is not good.  




He has done nothing in the NBA that warrants trade Rondo for him.  

His numbers are closer to Morrison then a PG who will be successful.  


And Rondo's first year, it was not a veteran team.  

I just don't get the Adam Morrison comparison. He was a forward & we talking about PG's. Anyways Adam Morrison rookie season & Jimmer's now is better than Rondo's was so what makes you think he would regress in year 2 like Ammo did? Jimmer is a better baller than Morrison ever was! Look at Fredette last 5 games & you'll see progress already. Stop the Jimmer hate because of Rondo, its unfair & unwarranted.

[Chris]

No, no, no.




Has Jimmer done anything different then Morrison did as a rookie?

I do this solely for the pick and Hickson.  That would be a heck of a haul for Rondo, who does not have a ton of value at the moment.  

[BballTim]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7lmj6na

Are People Here In CB Blind? THE MAIN GOAL IN THIS TRADE IS TO GET THE TOP 5 PICK!!! +we will have 3 1rd picks, and it'll be a good draft variety. I promise you guys with this trade, we will stay in the league competition for years to come!

Ottawa Celtic people are not blind they are just opposed to change. They clearly dont see the kind of talent I see coming back at the back end of this deal. Barnes, Gilchrist, Randolph, Rivers. And on top of that replace the position you are trading with a guy with upside potential. I saw BAD celtic ball from 94-2007. Don't wanna see mediocre years with Rondo stat padding 3-4years from now.

  Haha. Here's something fairly obvious that both of you aren't getting. Right now the Kings are the 5th worst team in the league with 6 wins. There are another 6 teams with 1-2 more wins than the Kings. You're sending them by far the best player in the trade. You won't likely be getting back a TOP 5 PICK, more likely something outside the bottom 10.

im not missing that at all. 3 first round picks can net you just about anyone you want. If guess you missed that. Lottery balls are rarely awarded to the worst team. Remember it cost us Durant!

  3 first round picks can net you what's available at the time and nothing more.  But, just to summarize, you said:

THE MAIN GOAL IN THIS TRADE IS TO GET THE TOP 5 PICK!!!

  Yet when it's pointed out that the trade is unlikely to net a top 5 pick, you claim to be aware of this. So you're hoping to make a trade where you don't expect to achieve your main goal in making the trade.

[wdleehi]

No, no, no.




Has Jimmer done anything different then Morrison did as a rookie?

I do this solely for the pick and Hickson.  That would be a heck of a haul for Rondo, who does not have a ton of value at the moment.  

What is the pick?  


Right now it is 5, but look at all the team that have 1, 2 or even just 3 more wins the Sac.  



It makes no sense at this point where the only thing you are sure about are two role players.  

[wdleehi]

Omg! You guys are hilarious. Jimmer is far from horrible, I actually watch the games a little. And even his box scores doesn't translate horrible. He plays for a horrible team with horrible coaches is more accurate. Adam Morrison couldn't dribble, had no energy due to his diabetes making it tough on him, and he had no basketball savvy really. Once the ball hit Morrison hands it never left until it was airborne in a shot attempt. PG take time to mature in the NBA unless you have a team full of veterans who can provide him security which the Celtics did for Rondo. Sacramento wouldn't be the ideal scenario with a bunch of me 1st playes in Cousins,Evans & the ever gunning Thornton. I do watch games & Jimmer has not fit there.

He is slow

He is small.

For a PG, his assists to to ratio is terrible,


For a shooter, shooting under 40% is not good.  




He has done nothing in the NBA that warrants trade Rondo for him.  

His numbers are closer to Morrison then a PG who will be successful.  


And Rondo's first year, it was not a veteran team.  

I just don't get the Adam Morrison comparison. He was a forward & we talking about PG's. Anyways Adam Morrison rookie season & Jimmer's now is better than Rondo's was so what makes you think he would regress in year 2 like Ammo did? Jimmer is a better baller than Morrison ever was! Look at Fredette last 5 games & you'll see progress already. Stop the Jimmer hate because of Rondo, its unfair & unwarranted.

Two great shooters from college.


Two guys to slow for the NBA at their positions.

Two guys shooting under 40% in their rookie years.



This is not Jimmer hate.  This is looking at fringe NBA role player.  If he ever hits his shot in the NBA, he could be the next Steve Kerr.

[BballTim]

No, no, no.




Has Jimmer done anything different then Morrison did as a rookie?

I do this solely for the pick and Hickson.  That would be a heck of a haul for Rondo, who does not have a ton of value at the moment.  

  A 10-12 pick and Hickson might be a heck of a haul for Ray or maybe Bradley, it's next to nothing for a player like Rondo.