The clippers pick from the perk trade was smart

[lightspeed5]

thanks to cp3, the clippers are performing fairly well, and this allows us to execute the pick this upcoming loaded 2012 draft.

look at a mock draft: http://www.nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft


we're one of 2 teams with multiple  (2) first round picks. it just looks incredibly smart now. we got 2 picks in a loaded draft. if the clippers are ranked 8th then that is our best draft position, but either way as long as they make the playoffs we'll be fine.


the 2 first rounds gives us options.i think we can trade up and try to get someone (austin rivers)... we can use them as assets to get players.  multiple options with this now valuable pick

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Well, we need all the help we can get, as soon as we can get it, so I certainly hope we're able to turn those picks into something great.

[raynman]

I keep saying that the Perkins trade was a very smart move, business-wise! We got a very good player in Jeff Green, a serviceable center in Krstic and a valuable 1st rd pick in this year's deep draft! It's not Danny's fault that Rondo checked out, Shaq wasn't healthy in time for the playoffs, CP3 came to the Clips, and Jeff Green got a heart ailment.. Perkins' health was questionable and he would've walked in the offseason anyway.. It was just bad luck that befell the Celtics after the trade.. Call it 'Curse of the Kendrino' ? (Like Babe Ruth's Bambino)  

[Yoki_IsTheName]

2 first rounders. It's always good to have those. We can trade it for an established guy that one team has that wants to rebuild. Or we can keep both and get two young guys.

[chambers]

I won't be surprised to see Danny move some pieces to try and trade up to get Kidd Gilchrist or Jeremy Lamb.

Scoring at shooting guard/small forward is going to be a priority.

[Roy H.]

Deep draft or not, it's more likely than not that the 24th pick fails to contribute much of value.  I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but you'll never convince me that it was worth trading Perk for a late 1st rounder.  Heck, Semih + Harangody landed almost as much (a future Minnesota #2). 

Worst case scenario, we would have landed a large cap exception for Perk.  I'd say an $8 million exception is worth as much as that #24 pick. 

[indeedproceed]

Deep draft or not, it's more likely than not that the 24th pick fails to contribute much of value.  I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but you'll never convince me that it was worth trading Perk for a late 1st rounder.  Heck, Semih + Harangody landed almost as much (a future Minnesota #2). 

Worst case scenario, we would have landed a large cap exception for Perk.  I'd say an $8 million exception is worth as much as that #24 pick. 

Packaging the two picks for a higher top 8 selection is always an option, and without the second pick, #15ish plus cash doesn't move you up like that.

[Jeff]

kills me that our pick could be better than the Clips pick

never saw that coming

[Roy H.]

Deep draft or not, it's more likely than not that the 24th pick fails to contribute much of value.  I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but you'll never convince me that it was worth trading Perk for a late 1st rounder.  Heck, Semih + Harangody landed almost as much (a future Minnesota #2).  

Worst case scenario, we would have landed a large cap exception for Perk.  I'd say an $8 million exception is worth as much as that #24 pick.  

Packaging the two picks for a higher top 8 selection is always an option, and without the second pick, #15ish plus cash doesn't move you up like that.

What team is trading the #8 pick (a legit impact player) for the #17 pick (best case scenario) and the #24 pick?  Whichever GM will agree to that trade in this draft should be immediately fired.

I don't think that that trade is "an option" at all.  It's an option in the same way that trading KG + Pierce for Durant is an option.  It'd be great for us, but it's just not going to happen.

[wdleehi]

The trade was for the hope of the following assets

Green

A first rounder eventually in the top 11-15 range,



Ended up as a single draft pick in the 20s. 


For a starting C in the NBA today.


Not a good deal. 

The Celtics could have gotten a better package over the summer in a sign and trade.  A low 1st and a trade exception. 

[Moranis]

Deep draft or not, it's more likely than not that the 24th pick fails to contribute much of value.  I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but you'll never convince me that it was worth trading Perk for a late 1st rounder.  Heck, Semih + Harangody landed almost as much (a future Minnesota #2). 

Worst case scenario, we would have landed a large cap exception for Perk.  I'd say an $8 million exception is worth as much as that #24 pick. 

Green plus 24 is greater than an 8 million trade exception.

[indeedproceed]

Deep draft or not, it's more likely than not that the 24th pick fails to contribute much of value.  I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but you'll never convince me that it was worth trading Perk for a late 1st rounder.  Heck, Semih + Harangody landed almost as much (a future Minnesota #2).  

Worst case scenario, we would have landed a large cap exception for Perk.  I'd say an $8 million exception is worth as much as that #24 pick.  

Packaging the two picks for a higher top 8 selection is always an option, and without the second pick, #15ish plus cash doesn't move you up like that.

What team is trading the #8 pick (a legit impact player) for the #17 pick (best case scenario) and the #24 pick?  Whichever GM will agree to that trade in this draft should be immediately fired.

I don't think that that trade is "an option" at all.  It's an option in the same way that trading KG + Pierce for Durant is an option.  It'd be great for us, but it's just not going to happen.

Hardly like trading KG + Pierce for Durant but point taken. I don't think its so desperately unlikely but I'm an optimist.

At least in this conversation.

[Roy H.]

Deep draft or not, it's more likely than not that the 24th pick fails to contribute much of value.  I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but you'll never convince me that it was worth trading Perk for a late 1st rounder.  Heck, Semih + Harangody landed almost as much (a future Minnesota #2).  

Worst case scenario, we would have landed a large cap exception for Perk.  I'd say an $8 million exception is worth as much as that #24 pick.  

Green plus 24 is greater than an 8 million trade exception.

If people are projecting that Perk never would have re-signed in Boston (or that Danny wouldn't have signed him) I think it's fair to similarly argue that Green never had a long-term future with the Celtics.  Thus, why he was offered a one year deal, rather than a long-term one.  Jeff Green is a mediocre role player, not somebody that you waste your cap space on.

So, adding a half season of Jeff Green (or, to be charitable, 1.5 seasons) doesn't change my opinion.  I would still rather have the cap exception.

[Moranis]

Deep draft or not, it's more likely than not that the 24th pick fails to contribute much of value.  I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but you'll never convince me that it was worth trading Perk for a late 1st rounder.  Heck, Semih + Harangody landed almost as much (a future Minnesota #2).  

Worst case scenario, we would have landed a large cap exception for Perk.  I'd say an $8 million exception is worth as much as that #24 pick.  

Packaging the two picks for a higher top 8 selection is always an option, and without the second pick, #15ish plus cash doesn't move you up like that.

What team is trading the #8 pick (a legit impact player) for the #17 pick (best case scenario) and the #24 pick?  Whichever GM will agree to that trade in this draft should be immediately fired.

I don't think that that trade is "an option" at all.  It's an option in the same way that trading KG + Pierce for Durant is an option.  It'd be great for us, but it's just not going to happen.

Hardly like trading KG + Pierce for Durant but point taken. I don't think its so desperately unlikely but I'm an optimist.

At least in this conversation.

There is however a pretty solid chance that both picks are better than what is being discussed.  I think there may be a shot at moving 15 and 18 for 8.  Not a great shot, but more likely especially if the team drafting at 8 isn't sold on a player available then.

[2short]

I keep saying that the Perkins trade was a very smart move, business-wise! We got a very good player in Jeff Green, a serviceable center in Krstic and a valuable 1st rd pick in this year's deep draft! It's not Danny's fault that Rondo checked out, Shaq wasn't healthy in time for the playoffs, CP3 came to the Clips, and Jeff Green got a heart ailment.. Perkins' health was questionable and he would've walked in the offseason anyway.. It was just bad luck that befell the Celtics after the trade.. Call it 'Curse of the Kendrino' ? (Like Babe Ruth's Bambino)  

I feel it was such a great trade (for us) that it is more tied to the len bias trade/draft and death
krstic could have been a good starter - very good backup center
green 6th man candidate and eventual pp replacement
draft pick
for perk who is currently overpaid for limited production/minutes and nate who JUST got back into the nba