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Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2012, 09:21:16 PM »

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Probably the best 1 on 1 player in this draft. But he really isn't a good fit. Doesn't play well off ball, not a very good defender and even though he is a good shooter it's mostly off the dribble and not catching and shooting.

Most importantly we don't need 2 divas on this team. Rondo is enough already. Brad Beal makes much more sense if we can trade up.
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Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2012, 10:13:50 PM »

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Probably the best 1 on 1 player in this draft. But he really isn't a good fit. Doesn't play well off ball, not a very good defender and even though he is a good shooter it's mostly off the dribble and not catching and shooting.

Most importantly we don't need 2 divas on this team. Rondo is enough already. Brad Beal makes much more sense if we can trade up.
Rondo doesn't need to have the ball every position, you can give Rivers the ball (his ball handling is actually solid he just dosen't look to pass) and let him create his own shot.

Since when was Rivers a diva?

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2012, 10:27:04 PM »

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Not a point....shoot first mentality....out of control too much
Of course there's going to be cons for every draftee outside the top 3, what about his ability to shoot the 3, penetrate to the basket, pull up mid range J, extremely athletic, great quickness, long wingspan, good ball handling skills for a 2, high BBIQ and intangibles etc

You're complaining about someone who isn't afraid to take a shot?  are you kidding me? Celtics have Rondo to take care of him and Doc preaches ball movement and defense. He'll do fine here
See thats kind of how i feel. It would be refreshing to have someone here with that Kobe killer instinct, which Austin has.

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2012, 10:29:55 PM »

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trade up for him ,star potential in my opinion

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2012, 10:43:35 PM »

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Probably the best 1 on 1 player in this draft. But he really isn't a good fit. Doesn't play well off ball, not a very good defender and even though he is a good shooter it's mostly off the dribble and not catching and shooting.

Most importantly we don't need 2 divas on this team. Rondo is enough already. Brad Beal makes much more sense if we can trade up.
Rondo doesn't need to have the ball every position, you can give Rivers the ball (his ball handling is actually solid he just dosen't look to pass) and let him create his own shot.

Since when was Rivers a diva?

Yes Rondo can play off the ball but the majority of the time the ball will be in his hands. Rivers does not excel at all off the ball which will really limit his effectiveness unless we change our whole system.

Rivers has always had a bad rep when it comes to attitude.

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Weaknesses: Although Rivers is very aggressive, he also can be selfish and ball-dominant at times … Prone to pounding the ball and overdribbling looking for his shots … Often demonstrates poor shot selection, shooting shots out of range of normal offense or under duress … Is also used to trying to shoot himself out of slumps, and settling for contested jumpers off the dribble … Physically, Rivers is pretty mediocre for an NBA guard … He’s a bit of a tweener guard, although he’s more of a SG and has enough size to play there … Doesn’t show great floor vision, and often looks to pass as a last resort … At times, Rivers will pout and show bad body language on the court. He's developed a bit of a prima donna attitude which hopefully will change as he matures … A fairly nondescript defender, who hasn’t been known to compete hard on that end … His potential on D is also limited ...

Listen I'm just picking at his weaknesses. The kid is a beast of an offensive player and Doc would find a way to make him fit but I think that there are better players we can go after (Brad Beal).
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Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2012, 10:47:23 PM »

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Probably the best 1 on 1 player in this draft. But he really isn't a good fit. Doesn't play well off ball, not a very good defender and even though he is a good shooter it's mostly off the dribble and not catching and shooting.

Most importantly we don't need 2 divas on this team. Rondo is enough already. Brad Beal makes much more sense if we can trade up.
Rondo doesn't need to have the ball every position, you can give Rivers the ball (his ball handling is actually solid he just dosen't look to pass) and let him create his own shot.

Since when was Rivers a diva?

Yes Rondo can play off the ball but the majority of the time the ball will be in his hands. Rivers does not excel at all off the ball which will really limit his effectiveness unless we change our whole system.

Rivers has always had a bad rep when it comes to attitude.

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Weaknesses: Although Rivers is very aggressive, he also can be selfish and ball-dominant at times … Prone to pounding the ball and overdribbling looking for his shots … Often demonstrates poor shot selection, shooting shots out of range of normal offense or under duress … Is also used to trying to shoot himself out of slumps, and settling for contested jumpers off the dribble … Physically, Rivers is pretty mediocre for an NBA guard … He’s a bit of a tweener guard, although he’s more of a SG and has enough size to play there … Doesn’t show great floor vision, and often looks to pass as a last resort … At times, Rivers will pout and show bad body language on the court. He's developed a bit of a prima donna attitude which hopefully will change as he matures … A fairly nondescript defender, who hasn’t been known to compete hard on that end … His potential on D is also limited ...

Listen I'm just picking at his weaknesses. The kid is a beast of an offensive player and Doc would find a way to make him fit but I think that there are better players we can go after (Brad Beal).
I share that Beal sentiment, but would certainly like someone with that killer instinct. If Beal showed that then great. If we draft either of them, I will be quite happy.

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2012, 11:25:28 PM »

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Why bother drafting him even if we could? Doc doesn't play young guys -- he'd probably keep even his own son on the pine.
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Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2012, 11:30:56 PM »

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I bet he would be even harder on his son than others most coaches are that way.

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2012, 12:27:37 AM »

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Probably the best 1 on 1 player in this draft. But he really isn't a good fit. Doesn't play well off ball, not a very good defender and even though he is a good shooter it's mostly off the dribble and not catching and shooting.

Most importantly we don't need 2 divas on this team. Rondo is enough already. Brad Beal makes much more sense if we can trade up.
Rondo doesn't need to have the ball every position, you can give Rivers the ball (his ball handling is actually solid he just dosen't look to pass) and let him create his own shot.

Since when was Rivers a diva?

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2012, 11:07:10 AM »

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I would really like to see him with the celtics because his issues seem to be more related to defence and shot selection.Those are issues that celtics almost never (well at least in the big 3 era)had trouble with so i thnk that he would thrive in the right system and coaching.
Plus,I would never have a problem being coached by my dad.He seems to have a good relationship with doc(he said that he really liked it when his dad attended some of his games)so I really cant see him turning this team down just because of doc.
Now i want to ask something more.In the link i posted at first (which is wrong obviously.You have to include the 2 dots for it to be right)it says that if he  wants to be a celtic then all he has to do is inform every team not named celtics that if they draft him he wont sign with them.So teams ahead of us in the draft wouldnt pick him becuase he would be useless for them(since he wouldnt sign with them).Is something like that possible?

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2012, 11:11:07 AM »

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Dude is an overrated turnover prone chucker no thanks he BETTER stay in college for another year

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2012, 11:16:58 AM »

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Dude is an overrated turnover prone chucker no thanks he BETTER stay in college for another year

Kobe is a chucker too throughout his whole career.Im not saying that Rivers is anywhere near kobe,Im just saying that being a chucker doesnt always hold a player with potential back.

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2012, 11:23:44 AM »

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Dude is an overrated turnover prone chucker no thanks he BETTER stay in college for another year

Kobe is a chucker too throughout his whole career.Im not saying that Rivers is anywhere near kobe,Im just saying that being a chucker doesnt always hold a player with potential back.
I watched him closely nd usually I hate college from all the stuff he said before he entered college I was expecting bigger things dude is overrated there's no way I want him here

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2012, 11:37:20 AM »

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I think a bigger question is, does Doc Rivers want to coach his son and vice versa??

either way im not worried about his possible "attitude problems" or "defense" Doc rivers will make sure any player buys into the celtics mentality before they get playing time...and anyone think  Austin is going to give his pop trouble?

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2012, 11:44:41 AM »

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I think a bigger question is, does Doc Rivers want to coach his son and vice versa??

either way im not worried about his possible "attitude problems" or "defense" Doc rivers will make sure any player buys into the celtics mentality before they get playing time...and anyone think  Austin is going to give his pop trouble?

Why would anyone who has a good relationship with his son(at least thats what they are showing)not want to coach him?I think the positives far outweigh the negatives.He knows his sons game and he will probably be able to handle his supposedly bad attitude in a way that a coach who doesnt know him well wouldnt.