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Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2012, 11:58:47 AM »

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Dude is an overrated turnover prone chucker no thanks he BETTER stay in college for another year

Kobe is a chucker too throughout his whole career.Im not saying that Rivers is anywhere near kobe,Im just saying that being a chucker doesnt always hold a player with potential back.
I watched him closely nd usually I hate college from all the stuff he said before he entered college I was expecting bigger things dude is overrated there's no way I want him here
If Austin stayed through his sophmore/junior year he'd be a top5 pick no question.

He's raw, there's a lot of improvement that can be done, but Austin has "it" He has that killer scoring mentality that scouts look for, the ability to possibly become a franchise player and building block. Not saying he will become one, but his ceiling is so high because he's already got the scoring part down all he needs to do is learn an NBA defense and look for more ball movement. Hey, isn't that what Doc preaches?

I think for 80% of NBA teams Austin would fail and not reach his ultimate potential, would be better off going to school. But the Celtics are one of those teams he can fit in.  Rondo and Rivers gives the Celtics 2 dangerous ball handling options, and Austin doesn't need to act like a PG, just improve moving the ball around and moving himself without the ball. Defense can come, he can at least be solid in that department. But right away you know the kid can score and the Celtics desperately need a kid that can go to the hoop. He's got great range and I love the penetration and the cross over on the first step to get to the hoop. Kid will be at worst a Anthony Morrow

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2012, 12:02:45 PM »

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Austin Rivers has played nobody and all i have seen him do is jack up ridiculous threes.  He has played 2 games in the ACC and has not even played UNC yet. 

There are way better 2 and 3s in this draft. 

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2012, 12:05:13 PM »

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I think a bigger question is, does Doc Rivers want to coach his son and vice versa??

either way im not worried about his possible "attitude problems" or "defense" Doc rivers will make sure any player buys into the celtics mentality before they get playing time...and anyone think  Austin is going to give his pop trouble?
Doc was all but done coaching the Celts to watch his kids play and Danny convinced him to come back. If I'm guessing I bet that had something to do with Danny doing everything possible to get Austin playing for Doc at the next level.
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Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2012, 12:10:34 PM »

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Dude is an overrated turnover prone chucker no thanks he BETTER stay in college for another year

Kobe is a chucker too throughout his whole career.Im not saying that Rivers is anywhere near kobe,Im just saying that being a chucker doesnt always hold a player with potential back.
I watched him closely nd usually I hate college from all the stuff he said before he entered college I was expecting bigger things dude is overrated there's no way I want him here
If Austin stayed through his sophmore/junior year he'd be a top5 pick no question.

He's raw, there's a lot of improvement that can be done, but Austin has "it" He has that killer scoring mentality that scouts look for, the ability to possibly become a franchise player and building block. Not saying he will become one, but his ceiling is so high because he's already got the scoring part down all he needs to do is learn an NBA defense and look for more ball movement. Hey, isn't that what Doc preaches?

I think for 80% of NBA teams Austin would fail and not reach his ultimate potential, would be better off going to school. But the Celtics are one of those teams he can fit in.  Rondo and Rivers gives the Celtics 2 dangerous ball handling options, and Austin doesn't need to act like a PG, just improve moving the ball around and moving himself without the ball. Defense can come, he can at least be solid in that department. But right away you know the kid can score and the Celtics desperately need a kid that can go to the hoop. He's got great range and I love the penetration and the cross over on the first step to get to the hoop. Kid will be at worst a Anthony Morrow

I agree with you 100%,but can the celtics get him or do they need to rely on the clippers choking a bit?

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2012, 12:16:50 PM »

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Austin Rivers has played nobody and all i have seen him do is jack up ridiculous threes.  He has played 2 games in the ACC and has not even played UNC yet.  

There are way better 2 and 3s in this draft.  
he put up 22 points against  Ohio State against William Buford a potential 1st round pick with Sullinger hanging in the post

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Dude is an overrated turnover prone chucker no thanks he BETTER stay in college for another year

Kobe is a chucker too throughout his whole career.Im not saying that Rivers is anywhere near kobe,Im just saying that being a chucker doesnt always hold a player with potential back.
I watched him closely nd usually I hate college from all the stuff he said before he entered college I was expecting bigger things dude is overrated there's no way I want him here
If Austin stayed through his sophmore/junior year he'd be a top5 pick no question.

He's raw, there's a lot of improvement that can be done, but Austin has "it" He has that killer scoring mentality that scouts look for, the ability to possibly become a franchise player and building block. Not saying he will become one, but his ceiling is so high because he's already got the scoring part down all he needs to do is learn an NBA defense and look for more ball movement. Hey, isn't that what Doc preaches?

I think for 80% of NBA teams Austin would fail and not reach his ultimate potential, would be better off going to school. But the Celtics are one of those teams he can fit in.  Rondo and Rivers gives the Celtics 2 dangerous ball handling options, and Austin doesn't need to act like a PG, just improve moving the ball around and moving himself without the ball. Defense can come, he can at least be solid in that department. But right away you know the kid can score and the Celtics desperately need a kid that can go to the hoop. He's got great range and I love the penetration and the cross over on the first step to get to the hoop. Kid will be at worst a Anthony Morrow

I agree with you 100%,but can the celtics get him or do they need to rely on the clippers choking a bit?

I doubt we can get him with the Clipers pick but with the way this team is playing we can just get him with our own....although a late lotto team could reach for him based on potential so we might have to move up
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Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2012, 01:29:58 PM »

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Not a point....shoot first mentality....out of control too much
Of course there's going to be cons for every draftee outside the top 3, what about his ability to shoot the 3, penetrate to the basket, pull up mid range J, extremely athletic, great quickness, long wingspan, good ball handling skills for a 2, high BBIQ and intangibles etc

You're complaining about someone who isn't afraid to take a shot?  are you kidding me? Celtics have Rondo to take care of him and Doc preaches ball movement and defense. He'll do fine here
See thats kind of how i feel. It would be refreshing to have someone here with that Kobe killer instinct, which Austin has.
It's a fine line but this is how I see it.  Kobe is an all time talent who could get his whenever he wanted.  The fact that he has killer instinct helped him become a great player and helped his team.  However, when you are not a great talent, then shooting a lot makes you a chucker because often there are better options for the team that YOU shooting all the time. 

And we can see this evolve even within a player's career.  As there talent diminishes, a once great player (e.g., AI) goes from great to chucker.

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2012, 01:44:00 PM »

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Austin has sick handles attacks rim like D Wade
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Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2012, 01:47:56 PM »

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Austin has sick handles attacks rim like D Wade

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he doesn't come out for the draft this year, though.  He's not very high on draft boards at the moment.  He could probably get drafted quite a bit higher if he waits, unless he has a really great tournament performance.

Right now I don't think Austin has shown much more than the potential to be another Monta Ellis, at best.
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Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2012, 02:00:54 PM »

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Austin has sick handles attacks rim like D Wade

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he doesn't come out for the draft this year, though.  He's not very high on draft boards at the moment.  He could probably get drafted quite a bit higher if he waits, unless he has a really great tournament performance.

Right now I don't think Austin has shown much more than the potential to be another Monta Ellis, at best.

Agreed.  It's not like his family is needing money and he should be learning from one of the best basketball coaches in the world.  It'd really benefit him to stay at least another season

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2012, 02:23:08 PM »

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Austin has sick handles attacks rim like D Wade

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he doesn't come out for the draft this year, though.  He's not very high on draft boards at the moment.  He could probably get drafted quite a bit higher if he waits, unless he has a really great tournament performance.

Right now I don't think Austin has shown much more than the potential to be another Monta Ellis, at best.

I think he'd like to come out a little lower and end up on a winning team. This kid grew up around the NBA, i'm sure he recognizes that it's better OVERALL to go more towards the middle of the pack.

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2012, 02:39:17 PM »

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http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1397421&format=&page=2&listingType=sco#articleFull

short but decent article on Rivers in today's herald.  sounds like a kid who still has a lot of maturing to do but at least has all the right intentions.

i don't care what his numbers are, he has elite scoring skills and is still improving.  i'm willing to bet he climbs up the draft class rankings as the season goes and would be shocked if he didn't make a bit of a name for himself come tourney time.  He probably should stick around coach K for another year, but i'd be suprised if he didn't enter the draft after this season.

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Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2012, 02:56:37 PM »

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rivers is still learning to play team ball i think thats the reason he went to duke. but he can score one on one against anybody in college. nba fits his style more and he should explode once he gets there.

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2012, 11:04:41 PM »

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The Celts and Austin are tankers on a collision course!  Not by design of course :P

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2012, 11:00:03 PM »

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his draft stock has gone down considerably lately for some reason. he is projected to be around pick 20 as of now. our clippers pick would be pick 24 if the draft was today. we need the clippers to fall down to like 7th instead of 3rd, and then we can trade up to certify we get him, or we can just use our first pick probably 11th-14th if we make the playoffs)

he is projected 20th

http://www.draftexpress.com/

if danny ainge gets him, it would be huge news for the first father-son duo in the nba

Re: Austin Rivers
« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2012, 12:26:07 AM »

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his draft stock has gone down considerably lately for some reason. he is projected to be around pick 20 as of now. our clippers pick would be pick 24 if the draft was today. we need the clippers to fall down to like 7th instead of 3rd, and then we can trade up to certify we get him, or we can just use our first pick probably 11th-14th if we make the playoffs)

he is projected 20th

http://www.draftexpress.com/

if danny ainge gets him, it would be huge news for the first father-son duo in the nba
The big board has guys like McAdoo, Miller, Cody, etc. that will probably stay in school.

Austin's potential alone will have someone reach him for him in the lotto.


That being said, if Quincy Miller does declare and falls to that range I'd take him easy any day.