Danny, what the heck were you thinking?

[nickagneta]

Brooks looked like a heck of a scorer and player in the first half when every Celtic except Avery Bradley was sleep walking through the game. Once the C's started playing actual team and man defense in the third quarter, Brooks went away.

Says a lot about how his game should be judged right now if you ask me.

What said alot to me is we had to double a rookie the whole second half. That says the kid definitely made a impression on our staff in a good way! Means he is a player worth special attention.

He wasn't being doubled. The team's team defense and rotations finally woke up. Dooling finally started to play some good man defense on him and shuffled him into help. Its how the C's play defense. They didn't double team him.

Don't get me wrong I think the kid can definitely score. He can shoot the rock and if he was on a team with a few star NBA players, he would be getting some good open looks and scoring a bunch on many nights. But I think he can be and will be shut down by better defensive players and teams.

He has great potential and I think the C's might be wondering why they weren't interested in him some years from now. On the other hand, I've heard some rumors about what Brooks is like behind the scene and let's just say he might not be the type of guy Danny and Doc would want to put up with. Still, he's got a will to score, whether its efficient and in the team flow or not will soon be seen.

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[timpiker]

I know what I saw and I saw the C's, several times, double the kid in the 2nd half.

And yes, Danny was lucky to get Ray and Kg.  KG said no, Danny got Ray and KG changed his mind.  The fact of the matter is, I love Danny Ainge but his drafting over the years, in whole, has sucked.  Give him Rondo, Perk and Big Al then what have you?  He blew several picks.

[bfrombleacher]

ON the flip side. Again, we have yet to see Jajuan play meaningful minutes. I'm still very interested in seeing Triple-J on the floor with Rondo at the same time.

[rondohondo]

I know what I saw and I saw the C's, several times, double the kid in the 2nd half.

And yes, Danny was lucky to get Ray and Kg.  KG said no, Danny got Ray and KG changed his mind.  The fact of the matter is, I love Danny Ainge but his drafting over the years, in whole, has sucked.  Give him Rondo, Perk and Big Al then what have you?  He blew several picks.

every other pick he had was in the mid to late 20's what do you expect?

Big Al was#15, Rondo was # 21(i think?) and Perk was in the late 20's early 30's

I would say that pretty [dang] good, also TA,D West , BBD , Powe were all picked 25 and later.

If the c's have 2 picks in the 2012 draft in the 17-25 range I would expect to land at least one good rotation player.

Trading brooks looks like a mistake though....

[Inside-Out]

I know what I saw and I saw the C's, several times, double the kid in the 2nd half.

And yes, Danny was lucky to get Ray and Kg.  KG said no, Danny got Ray and KG changed his mind.  The fact of the matter is, I love Danny Ainge but his drafting over the years, in whole, has sucked.  Give him Rondo, Perk and Big Al then what have you?  He blew several picks.

I saw Rondo going over to show a quick double to get the ball out of his hands.  You're not losing it.

That kid can score, though.

[Mike-Dub]

Marshon  Brooks has no D!  Wouldn't get in a minute on this team!

[RyNye]

Seriously, people, it's not like we had a top 5 pick and missed out on him. It's incredibly unfair to blame Danny for not picking a SURPRISE talent.

It's ridiculous to blame Danny without also calling out EVERY OTHER GM IN THE LEAGUE FOR NOT PICKING HIM.

[rondohondo]

Seriously, people, it's not like we had a top 5 pick and missed out on him. It's incredibly unfair to blame Danny for not picking a SURPRISE talent.

It's ridiculous to blame Danny without also calling out EVERY OTHER GM IN THE LEAGUE FOR NOT PICKING HIM.

I love Danny and think he is a very good GM, but I really think he failed on this one.

Brooks would be amazing backing up PP and Ray....

Can you imagine a bench of Dooling, Pietrus, Brooks and Bass?

Thats an explosive bench and would have saved Ray and PP

[kg is king]

  He's averaging 13.7 on a team that is really bad at the moment.  That not a surprise since he is a volume shooter.  Scoring on a bad team has never impressed me much.  Somebody has to score on that team, with Lopez and Williams out of action and he's the guy taking the most shots.

  If he came to Boston he'd have trouble seeing the floor because Doc rarely plays rookies who don't defend very well much other then garbage time.

He still is shooting 47% from the field, pretty good for a volume shooting I'd say  It's not fair to overlook his talent simply because he plays for a bad team. Kevin Love played for a pretty bad timberwolves team last year, but his talent was still there, same argument (to a lesser degree) can be made for Brooks. I was at the game tonight, and some of the shots he made were tough tough shots, shots that flashed a little bit of, dare I say it, Kobe. 

[TripleOT]

The Cs doubled Brooks numerous times in the second half.  Most of the time, the kid made the right play out of the double.  A couple of times he forced offense and either turned the ball over or took a poor shot.

It makes me laugh how some posters will throw out broad pronouncements like "Brooks can't play a lick of defense." He looked relatively competitive on D tonight, for a rookie anyways.  He showed good hands, has long arms, and tried to move his feet all night.  On the D league squad we saw last night, if you expected anything better from Brooks on either end of the court you're delusional.

This kid has looked as good an any rookie so far.  Yes he's taken a lot of shots, but on this incredibly bad Nets team, that's the role they need from him.  If Deron Williams can get out of his funk and form some synergy with Brooks, this kid should be on the 1st rookie team this season.   

[GreenEnvy]

The Cs doubled Brooks numerous times in the second half.  Most of the time, the kid made the right play out of the double.  A couple of times he forced offense and either turned the ball over or took a poor shot.

It makes me laugh how some posters will throw out broad pronouncements like "Brooks can't play a lick of defense." He looked relatively competitive on D tonight, for a rookie anyways.  He showed good hands, has long arms, and tried to move his feet all night.  On the D league squad we saw last night, if you expected anything better from Brooks on either end of the court you're delusional.

This kid has looked as good an any rookie so far.  Yes he's taken a lot of shots, but on this incredibly bad Nets team, that's the role they need from him.  If Deron Williams can get out of his funk and form some synergy with Brooks, this kid should be on the 1st rookie team this season.   

But that D was against who? Dooling? Bradley? Pavlovic maybe?

If Ray played, he would've gotten a lesson.

That said, Brooks could have definitely helped the second unit immediately out of camp. You could've used Bradley at PG for his defense alone with Brooks and Bass able to create their own offense and Pietrus capable as well. Throw the Steamboat out there with them and that's a fun group to watch.

I'll wait to see exactly what these Purdue kids can do before I give Ainge an F in this past draft for trading a kid who possesses a skill we desperately need.

[Celtics18]

I'm boldly predicting that despite the respective numbers from their first seven game, JaJuan Johnson will end up with a better NBA career than Marshon Brooks.

[wdleehi]

I am going to hold off on this until the Celtics draft picks get a chance to develop.  


Not all players are stars the 1st year. 

Not all players are rotational players the 1st year.



Doesn't mean they can't develop into one. 

[RyNye]

I love Danny and think he is a very good GM, but I really think he failed on this one.

Thanks for COMPLETELY missing the point of my post.

It is ridiculous to say Danny failed on this one. Remember the Nets were the only team that actually wanted him, we only picked him as part of the trade deal for JJJ. If we didn't have that trade planned, I don't think Danny would have even picked Brooks in the first place.

But it is absurd to say Danny missed this, unless you are ALSO calling out the GMS of the Timberwolves, Cavaliers, Jazz, Raptors, Wizards, Kings, Pistons, Bobcats, Bucks, Warriors, Suns, Rockets, Pacers, 76ers, Knicks, Trailblazers, Nuggets, and Thunder. Those are all the teams that passed on Brooks in the draft (in many cases, they passed on him TWICE, because they had multiple first round picks higher than 25).

The entire point of a surprisingly good rookie campaign is that it is a SURPRISE that nobody saw coming. Yes, it would be nice if we had that scoring off the bench, but it is being intentionally spiteful to blame Danny for not reading the tea leaves on this one, when nobody else did either. Do you think the Nets thought that he would be this good, or do you think they just had a ****ty low 1st round pick and just pulled his name from the scrub pile?

Can you imagine a bench of Dooling, Pietrus, Brooks and Bass?

Thats an explosive bench and would have saved Ray and PP

You assume too much. Even if we DID draft Brooks, there is no way of knowing how that would have effected Danny's other roster moves, who we would have picked with the 2nd round pick, what trades we might have made, etc. etc. Also assuming that Brooks would have impressed enough in training camp to get any meaningful minutes. Honestly, he would probably get little more than the minutes Etwaan Moore gets now, and there is no way of knowing if Brooks would play well under those conditions. He is playing well in NJ, but he is getting a lot of minutes and touches to get him going early on. How can you be so sure he will be good in 5 minutes a game off the bench?

Remember, basketball play isn't linear. It's not like you have a set level of production that will scale equally to however many minutes you play. There are a lot of players whose style of play simply doesn't translate to small bench minutes.

[perks-a-beast]

If Danny was good a at drafting we'd have DeAndre Jordan and Marshon Brooks right now. Could you imagine?