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Re: Danny, what the heck were you thinking?
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2012, 10:18:25 AM »

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If Danny was good a at drafting we'd have DeAndre Jordan and Marshon Brooks right now. Could you imagine?

And, if he was bad at drafting, Marcus Williams would be our starting point guard.
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Re: Danny, what the heck were you thinking?
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2012, 10:21:01 AM »

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If Danny was good a at drafting we'd have DeAndre Jordan and Marshon Brooks right now. Could you imagine?

And, if he was bad at drafting, Marcus Williams would be our starting point guard.


If only we had a GM who could go back in a time machine and draft all the right players!
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Re: Danny, what the heck were you thinking?
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2012, 10:27:26 AM »

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If Danny was good a at drafting we'd have DeAndre Jordan and Marshon Brooks right now. Could you imagine?

And, if he was bad at drafting, Marcus Williams would be our starting point guard.


If only we had a GM who could go back in a time machine and draft all the right players!


While he is there, could you have him tell Doc to not play KG in the game he got hurt his second season in Boston?

Re: Danny, what the heck were you thinking?
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2012, 10:29:32 AM »

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If Danny was good a at drafting we'd have DeAndre Jordan and Marshon Brooks right now. Could you imagine?

And, if he was bad at drafting, Marcus Williams would be our starting point guard.


If only we had a GM who could go back in a time machine and draft all the right players!


While he is there, could you have him tell Doc to not play KG in the game he got hurt his second season in Boston?
And force KG to have his surgery immediately so he's just a tad more healthy for the 2010 Finals.

Re: Danny, what the heck were you thinking?
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2012, 10:34:48 AM »

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If Danny was good a at drafting we'd have DeAndre Jordan and Marshon Brooks right now. Could you imagine?

And, if he was bad at drafting, Marcus Williams would be our starting point guard.


If only we had a GM who could go back in a time machine and draft all the right players!


While he is there, could you have him tell Doc to not play KG in the game he got hurt his second season in Boston?
And force KG to have his surgery immediately so he's just a tad more healthy for the 2010 Finals.

While you're at it, can you tell him to tell Perk not to blow out his knee in Game Six of the '10 Finals?


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Re: Danny, what the heck were you thinking?
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2012, 10:43:01 AM »

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Brooks looked like a heck of a scorer and player in the first half when every Celtic except Avery Bradley was sleep walking through the game. Once the C's started playing actual team and man defense in the third quarter, Brooks went away.

Says a lot about how his game should be judged right now if you ask me.
What said alot to me is we had to double a rookie the whole second half. That says the kid definitely made a impression on our staff in a good way! Means he is a player worth special attention.
He wasn't being doubled. The team's team defense and rotations finally woke up. Dooling finally started to play some good man defense on him and shuffled him into help. Its how the C's play defense. They didn't double team him.

Don't get me wrong I think the kid can definitely score. He can shoot the rock and if he was on a team with a few star NBA players, he would be getting some good open looks and scoring a bunch on many nights. But I think he can be and will be shut down by better defensive players and teams.

He has great potential and I think the C's might be wondering why they weren't interested in him some years from now. On the other hand, I've heard some rumors about what Brooks is like behind the scene and let's just say he might not be the type of guy Danny and Doc would want to put up with. Still, he's got a will to score, whether its efficient and in the team flow or not will soon be seen.

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I agree with everything you say here Nick except for the fact that the Celtics did in fact double Brooks every time he touched the ball to prevent him from getting to areas where he likes to score in the 2nd half. He was literally the only scoring threat for the Nets last night so it was a no brainer to double him in the 2nd half.

Re: Danny, what the heck were you thinking?
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2012, 10:46:27 AM »

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My impression of Brroks last night:

1. As expected polished scoring game.
2. Batter than expected defense. He has physical tools and seemed to compete.
3. Takes alot of low percentage shots with his back to the basket  a la Kobe. Wondering if he can continue to hit those...it took years for Kobe to develop that game. Im not convinced Brooks has it from day one in the NBA (although this is how he scored in college too).
4. Can be shut down with team defense because he isnt a dangerous passer, like any iso-scoring guard. Needs good teammates around him or he is ineffective. He failed to anticipate double teams and took himself out of a play quickly after passing out of a double.

Re: Danny, what the heck were you thinking?
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2012, 11:58:37 AM »

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I think he's (Danny) is losing it. The Avery Bradley pick last year and trading MarShon to the Nets for JJJ. Now I'll hold my judgment for JaJuan (and for that matter, some for Danny) as he hasn't seen the floor yet. But look at what he just gave away.

The dude CAN SCORE. Very experienced, played 4 years in college in a very competitive, top tier talent Big East.

He's averaging 14 points a game in 23 minutes of action shooting at around 46% which is decent for a shooting guard.

I said it again and again. With a pletora of big men in the last free agency we could have, Brooks could've been a much better piece that could help us RIGHT AWAY. Most are saying that he might not be playing these minutes if he's here, guess what, he torched this defense before the Celtics made adjustments to him. He can get minutes in Boston.

He could be giving us these numbers off the bench. He could be our go to scorer in the 2nd unit. And since there are back to back to backs, Doc can give him extended period of time and not miss on any scoring posibilites.

He could be doing that to us right now. Instead, we have JJJ who can even geta sniff off the floor.

I'm still leaning towards that this is one bad trade Danny made. Brooks is looking like a lottery pick right now. This is a ROOKIE folks, a rookie mind you.

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Re: Danny, what the heck were you thinking?
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2012, 12:05:05 PM »

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If Danny was good a at drafting we'd have DeAndre Jordan and Marshon Brooks right now. Could you imagine?

And, if he was bad at drafting, Marcus Williams would be our starting point guard.


If only we had a GM who could go back in a time machine and draft all the right players!


While he is there, could you have him tell Doc to not play KG in the game he got hurt his second season in Boston?
And force KG to have his surgery immediately so he's just a tad more healthy for the 2010 Finals.

While you're at it, can you tell him to tell Perk not to blow out his knee in Game Six of the '10 Finals?

Ah...the things I would do with a time machine...

Re: Danny, what the heck were you thinking?
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2012, 12:05:57 PM »

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Brooks looks good we may rue this one.  Too early to tell though.

Re: Danny, what the heck were you thinking?
« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2012, 12:27:20 PM »

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The Celtics win by 20 and the first thought you have is that Danny sucks?
He does suck at drafting guys! Remember he was gonna draft Yi! Lol But he is good at evaluating talent already in the league, just not talent coming into the league.
I feel it's the complete opposite.  He's better with the draft than players in the league.  particularly second round gems.

His FA signings have been lacking to say the least and the only trades he's made that look good are the KG, Ray and Bass deals


Re: Danny, what the heck were you thinking?
« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2012, 12:34:20 PM »

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I know what I saw and I saw the C's, several times, double the kid in the 2nd half.

And yes, Danny was lucky to get Ray and Kg.  KG said no, Danny got Ray and KG changed his mind.  The fact of the matter is, I love Danny Ainge but his drafting over the years, in whole, has sucked.  Give him Rondo, Perk and Big Al then what have you?  He blew several picks.

every other pick he had was in the mid to late 20's what do you expect?

Big Al was#15, Rondo was # 21(i think?) and Perk was in the late 20's early 30's

I would say that pretty [dang] good, also TA,D West , BBD , Powe were all picked 25 and later.

If the c's have 2 picks in the 2012 draft in the 17-25 range I would expect to land at least one good rotation player.

Trading brooks looks like a mistake though....
Don't forget Gomes as one of his picks.  I can't fault Danny for taking Gerald Green either since he was a projected high lottery pick that slid to him.  With his primary target Granger gone, hard to argue against picking Green at that point. 

I was hoping Danny would take Brooks in the draft but would have been just as happy with JJJ if that's who he picked.  We got JJJ plus what figures to be a decent second rounder to boot.  I think it's a bit soon to determine which is the better player. 

JJJ is behind KG and Bass on the depth chart.  Seriously, who thinks he deserves time over either of those two at this point?  Potential or not, KG is KG and Bass is playing like 6th-man-of -the-year material.  JJJ isn't seeing any real time until KG retires or if Bass leaves as a FA.

Re: Danny, what the heck were you thinking?
« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2012, 02:11:10 PM »

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Brooks looked like a heck of a scorer and player in the first half when every Celtic except Avery Bradley was sleep walking through the game. Once the C's started playing actual team and man defense in the third quarter, Brooks went away.

Says a lot about how his game should be judged right now if you ask me.
What said alot to me is we had to double a rookie the whole second half. That says the kid definitely made a impression on our staff in a good way! Means he is a player worth special attention.

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Re: Danny, what the heck were you thinking?
« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2012, 02:20:36 PM »

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If Ray played, he would've gotten a lesson.

Paul played, with Brooks on him a few possessions and he looked good, even picking Pierce's pocket

Re: Danny, what the heck were you thinking?
« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2012, 02:22:23 PM »

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I can't see Marshon Brooks getting significant minutes if he was playing for the Celtics.  There is no way Doc's going to play a rookie who looks to score every time he touches the ball and isn't a good defender.  

Marshon will probably stick around this league as a scorer on a bad team, but I just don't see him having much value to our system of play.

I'm happy that Danny took JaJuan Johnson, and I am willing to patiently wait for his development.
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