Rondo lost the game

[xmuscularghandix]

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[BballTim]

  Two weeks ago people were saying we had to trade Rondo because he was going to spend the season pouting because of trade rumors, now he's criticized for 31/13 with 5 boards and 5 steals.

[Celtics18]

  Two weeks ago people were saying we had to trade Rondo because he was going to spend the season pouting because of trade rumors, now he's criticized for 31/13 with 5 boards and 5 steals.

This comes with the territory of being a great player. 

[jc3celticsphan]

31pts 13 assists 5 steals 5 rebounds, Awful!

yeah rondo dont u ever put up 30 pts again and lose us a game jeez! LMBO

[guava_wrench]

It is hard to critique an individual player's performance at the end without knowing what the team was running and without watching replays of defensive rotations. Defenses change at the end of games as does the play of teammates.

It is possible that the original post has a point. It is also possible that the outcome would have been much worse if Rondo forced plays that weren't there. I did think we often seemed to waste the first 8 seconds in half court, but it is hard to say that without knowing what we were running for Ray since Rondo often has to wait for Ray to run through picks early on in the offense.

The most important play to look at was the 3 from Daniels in the corner. That is any easy shot for Pierce, but Marquis is really bad from 3. We didn't get points out of the perfect execution of a go to play for closing out a game due to Pierce missing. I'm fine with that. It also illustrated Rondo's problem. Since Daniels is not a threat from outside, his man could cheat inside and make it harder for Rondo to force the issue.

[nickagneta]

  Two weeks ago people were saying we had to trade Rondo because he was going to spend the season pouting because of trade rumors, now he's criticized for 31/13 with 5 boards and 5 steals.

Hehehe. Well played. And true.

[2short]

There needs to be some type of punishment for threads that don't incorporate any sort of logical thought.

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2nd that thought, negative tommy points?

[PosImpos]

Rondo did stop attacking late in the game.  He was the only guy consistently scoring early on and at the end of the game he disappeared.

I wouldn't say he lost us the game (indeed, he was the main reason we were still in it), but his play was a factor there at the end.  As great a game as he had, we needed him down the stretch and he wasn't there.

[barefacedmonk]

As great a game as he had, we needed him down the stretch and he wasn't there.

So he did what LeBron does in playoffs?

[Roy H.]

 

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[PosImpos]

As great a game as he had, we needed him down the stretch and he wasn't there.

So he did what LeBron does in playoffs?

Yeah.

Although, let's be fair, LeBron absolutely killed the Celtics with some clutch 3's in the playoffs last summer.

[Celtics18]

As great a game as he had, we needed him down the stretch and he wasn't there.

So he did what LeBron does in playoffs?

Yeah.

Although, let's be fair, LeBron absolutely killed the Celtics with some clutch 3's in the playoffs last summer.

Yes, let's be fair.  You seem to be saying that having players who are what you call "transcendent" at being one on one scorers is essential for winning in the NBA. 

Yet, you conveniently ignore the fact that many of the top "transcendent" scorers in the league go through significant droughts in crucial moments of crucial games.  When this happens, those teams' offenses stalls. We saw it at different moments with Miami, OKC, and Chicago last year.  We saw it firsthand when we beat the Cavs in 2010.

We saw a team win an NBA title last year by moving the ball offensively and hitting open shots.  The Mavericks had neither a "transcendent" one on one scorer or a dominant offensive low post presence.

 

[Celtics18]

Rondo did stop attacking late in the game.  He was the only guy consistently scoring early on and at the end of the game he disappeared.

I wouldn't say he lost us the game (indeed, he was the main reason we were still in it), but his play was a factor there at the end.  As great a game as he had, we needed him down the stretch and he wasn't there.

He only had a big offensive rebound, another play where he most likely got no box score credit but created another possession by hustling to make the Knicks lose a rebound out of bounds, two assists, a couple of other nice interior passes where the bigs couldn't finish, and a made jumper down the stretch in that game.

He may not have controlled the game the way he did for the first three quarters, but to say he wasn't there is patently fals.

[Sketch5]

He really didn't have the same open shots like he did in the beginning of the game. Sure, if it was Ray he would be considered open, but Rondo isn't a shooter, and they clogged the lane on the most part.

I still think he was making the right choices by getting the ball into the best shooters hands Ray/KG. Daniels can hit that shot in the corner, just not as well as Peirce and Allen, so that was a good look. He made some plays that other people weren't doing, so shouldn't we be up in other peoples faces for not showing up. KG didn't play well in the beginning, Ray struggled for a stretch as well. Kinda lame to blame it on one person.

Doc even said it was his fault letting Melo go off. Thats what really killed the C's was his 37.

Who knows, the C's could have been running some of their "End of Game" plays and stuck to it knowing its the first game, going to be a long season, and they need to execute plays to beat teams in the play offs.

[SHAQATTACK]

I think , what may bother Rondo at the end of the game , is he doesn't want to be left with the "GAME" resting on his shoulders , rather have to take the last shot. So he makes bad choices and is nervous ,because he "MAY" have to shoot .

All this could change if he could just develope a consistant 10-15 range jumper.

This fundamental short range shot is his big problem...