Rondo lost the game

[OhioGreen]

You're taking what I said in the negative sense about Rondo. He was spectacular today. Amazing. His shooting, I think is really coming around, and he was ultra aggressive taking it to them--for  three quarters! Then, when we needed him to keep it up the most, he stopped! Then everyone starts shooting jumpers!
He could have gone for 40 today. Knicks couldn't stop him.  You don't just take your foot off the pedal.
All I meant to say was WHY WHY WHY?
I think PP is going to miss a bunch of games--my opinion.  The good teams are not gonna get beat my the C's shootin' jump shots. Tuesday the Heat are gonna be all up in our faces, and there's nobody to create offense but Rondo!
I want the C's to win as bad as any C's fan, but this team as presently constructed WITHOUT PP, will be in trouble.

[OhioGreen]

because he stopped shooting! Only player that could create his own offense.
He only took 2 shots in the last quarter---(maybe he was tired of getting knocked around!)
Without PP, he needs to average 30 pts a game for us to beat good teams. Once he stopped takin' it to the hoop and NY's D tightened up late in the 4th, you could tell we were in trouble.
BB looked really good. Ray played decent. Sasha and Avery combined for 0 pts 1 reb and 1 asst in 24 minutes--pure waste!
Tuesday will be ugly---real ugly!
Lookin' at +/- 5 games under/over .500 this year, and thats if everyone stays pretty healthy.
Moore, JJJ, and Stiemer see no action--very disappointing.

Rondo didn't lose the game but he stopped taking what the defense was giving him when the game was on the line.

He lost his aggressiveness at crunch time.

Its not how you start the game... its how you finish it.

Rondo got tentative offensively... something you can count on from him when the big moment arrives.

Still a very good game for him. He just couldn't finish.

DH

Exactly.....Guess my original post could have said it much better!

[snively]

because he stopped shooting! Only player that could create his own offense.
He only took 2 shots in the last quarter---(maybe he was tired of getting knocked around!)
Without PP, he needs to average 30 pts a game for us to beat good teams. Once he stopped takin' it to the hoop and NY's D tightened up late in the 4th, you could tell we were in trouble.
BB looked really good. Ray played decent. Sasha and Avery combined for 0 pts 1 reb and 1 asst in 24 minutes--pure waste!
Tuesday will be ugly---real ugly!
Lookin' at +/- 5 games under/over .500 this year, and thats if everyone stays pretty healthy.
Moore, JJJ, and Stiemer see no action--very disappointing.

Rondo didn't lose the game but he stopped taking what the defense was giving him when the game was on the line.

He lost his aggressiveness at crunch time.

Its not how you start the game... its how you finish it.

Rondo got tentative offensively... something you can count on from him when the big moment arrives.

Still a very good game for him. He just couldn't finish.

DH

He didn't get tentative, he got solid scoring opportunities for KG (several open Js), Ray (out-of-bounds play), Daniels (lay-up) and Bass (paint touch, got stuffed) - 3/4 of whom are better offensive finishers than him.  They couldn't keep up with Melo, the best offensive player on the court, and the one with the most favorable match-up.

Rondo's a distributor and complementary scorer. 

[2short]

There needs to be some type of punishment for threads that don't incorporate any sort of logical thought.

Rondo and Bass were the reasons we were in the game.

Threads like this make me never want to post here ever again... Just unbelievable. 

What do some of you people here actually want??  do you ever stop and think about things??  I mean, really??

[SHAQATTACK]

Rondo did good, I stillthink CP3 would have been a slightly better asset...but thats water under the bridge ,,,C's will struggle with all teams till PP returns...he is our go to ,best player in most situations for "C's"......could have NY beat us with out MELLOW?  I doubt it.
On a team that has already lost Green , to lose PP is a disaster.

[mqtcelticsfan]

If Rondo looks to score in a loss: "Rondo isn't getting anyone else involved."
If Rondo looks to pass in a loss: "Rondo keeps passing instead of looking for his own shot."

If Rondo looks to score in a win: "Rondo is scoring at will. He's so awesome."
If Rondo looks to pass in a win: "Rondo keeps hitting the open guy! He's such a good passer!"

[celtics2]

30 points a game is way too much to ask of Rondo especially when his scoring skills put him in the dangerous department because of how he comes about his scoring. Championship Series ok let em rip. Doc has to reign him in for the teams sake. Our goal in a shortened season is to make the Playoffs healthy and with some energy left. So lets let him fire away all season so he can gain some confidence. Practice will only go so far. Shooting under fire is needed. He should also take shots left and right of center for a better perspective of depth and use the backboard. Tommy Heinsohn mentioned this long ago.

[hwangjini_1]

Threads like this make me never want to post here ever again... Just unbelievable. 

What do some of you people here actually want??  do you ever stop and think about things??  I mean, really??

i agree. i saw the title and was astounded. but then, after all, we are not forced to click on threads and read them.

i like to focus more on the good posts and sail by the less stellar ones.

so, enough time invested in this. time to move onto the interesting posts...and there quite a few of those. 

[MaxAMillion]

Lookin' at +/- 5 games under/over .500 this year, and thats if everyone stays pretty healthy.
Moore, JJJ, and Stiemer see no action--very disappointing.

The Celtics just lost by 2 to a top 10 team without their best two options at SF. I think you should hold of on the doom and gloom predictions.

As for the three young guys, I've never seen a group of people so ready to hand over a rotation spot to a 2nd round rookie in a season where the team is trying to contend like everyone is doing with Moore. The right bigs played today as well. The young players will get plenty of chances this year. It'll just be when it makes sense to play them, like in blow outs or back to backs.

People are willing to hand over rotation spots to young guys because they realize that players like Dooling and Bradley offer very little. Moore may turn out to be over his head, but we won't know until he plays. It is pretty clear that Bradley will go the route of Giddens and Hudson. His offense is absolutely horrible and he can't handle the ball. 6'2 guards who can't shoot or dribble don't tend to play for most teams.

[deekhead]

because he stopped shooting! Only player that could create his own offense.
He only took 2 shots in the last quarter---(maybe he was tired of getting knocked around!)
Without PP, he needs to average 30 pts a game for us to beat good teams. Once he stopped takin' it to the hoop and NY's D tightened up late in the 4th, you could tell we were in trouble.
BB looked really good. Ray played decent. Sasha and Avery combined for 0 pts 1 reb and 1 asst in 24 minutes--pure waste!
Tuesday will be ugly---real ugly!
Lookin' at +/- 5 games under/over .500 this year, and thats if everyone stays pretty healthy.
Moore, JJJ, and Stiemer see no action--very disappointing.

Rondo didn't lose the game but he stopped taking what the defense was giving him when the game was on the line.

He lost his aggressiveness at crunch time.

Its not how you start the game... its how you finish it.

Rondo got tentative offensively... something you can count on from him when the big moment arrives.

Still a very good game for him. He just couldn't finish.

DH

He didn't get tentative, he got solid scoring opportunities for KG (several open Js), Ray (out-of-bounds play), Daniels (lay-up) and Bass (paint touch, got stuffed) - 3/4 of whom are better offensive finishers than him.  They couldn't keep up with Melo, the best offensive player on the court, and the one with the most favorable match-up.

Rondo's a distributor and complementary scorer. 

In the 4th quarter, he stopped taking what the defense was giving him... uncontested shots, something he had all day.

That's Rondo's MO.

DH

[Celtics4ever]

Really, I thought the Knicks actually made some adjustments and were rotating better in the fourth.   I saw Chandler hinder Rondo several times in the fourth.  He would drive see Chandler and retreat.  That isn't the defense giving up those shots anymore folks.

Both of those final shots should have went to Ray Allen I thought.  Sometimes we try to get cute though Marquis's shot almost went down.   One inch and it would have been a swisher and Doc would have looked brilliant.

[JSD]

I hate to play the blame game but if you want to put the game on someones shoulders I let Allen have it over Rondo by miles and miles...

The quick shot of the out of bounds play with a fresh shot clock was terrible... Followed up by his rebound with 35 seconds left...He should have pulled it back and set it up, instead he rushed it (again with a new shot clock) and lost the ball...

As I said I hate playing the blame game though. Rondo wasnt the culprit by any means. It was a well played game from front to back, just came up short.

This.

[Bahku]

This team wins as a team and loses as a team. Sorry, but I just don't buy into any one player as carrying the entire load or blame. There are a thousand moments within any game that can be called the key to winning or losing, mistakes or big plays by every person on the court, (including the officials and coaches), and an alteration of any of these factors could carry the deciding factor. It's just plain not that simple, and I don't agree with laying it all on anyone.

[dark_lord]

rondo lost the game 



ummmmmmm, no.  he was the main reason we were in the game.


regarding his "letting up".  i say he is human. his will put us in the position to come back in the second half and give us a shot to win. he was getting beaten and may have been fatigued as well, so again, he is human.

it is unfair and ridiculous to blame the player who performed the best for the team.

[IrishGreen]

because he stopped shooting! Only player that could create his own offense.
He only took 2 shots in the last quarter---(maybe he was tired of getting knocked around!)
Without PP, he needs to average 30 pts a game for us to beat good teams. Once he stopped takin' it to the hoop and NY's D tightened up late in the 4th, you could tell we were in trouble.
BB looked really good. Ray played decent. Sasha and Avery combined for 0 pts 1 reb and 1 asst in 24 minutes--pure waste!
Tuesday will be ugly---real ugly!
Lookin' at +/- 5 games under/over .500 this year, and thats if everyone stays pretty healthy.
Moore, JJJ, and Stiemer see no action--very disappointing.

You obviously got a sack of crack for xmas. Absolutely ludacris. Rondo played his heart out yesterday and was by some distance our best player and as Chuck and Kenny pointed out yesterday, was the best player on the court.

However, I do agree with you about Sasha and Avery. Hilariously bad. Sasha cheated and let us believe he was man marking Melo, yet he kept letting him get to his sweet spots. Show him to his left side you numpty fool is what I kept screaming at the TV.

Bass was a beat yesterday also. Allen was a disappointment for me but that was because Wilcox and JO set laughable screens - I'm excited to see Pietrius spot up for 3's also. We looked for Allen too much off screens and didn't lost-post KG enough. He was in most situations 15-20 feet from the basket.