Doc "Jeff Green is part of the team"

[hpantazo]

If Jeff's going to be hanging around the team this year, I wonder if it's possible to get him some kind of salary as a special assistant coach or something for the season.

I kind of agree with Thumper on this one.  If he's going to be around and the team wants him around, they should find some way to get him a paycheck. 

I agree with this too. The team has enough money, sign him to some type of non-player job that doesn't count against the cap. It shouldn't be for a ton of money, but they could give him a decent, normal working guy salary for a year.

Not trying to be cynical, but how do you know the team has enough money to sign him to some type of non-player job that doesn't count against the cap?  So many of us assume that corporations "have it" to give to employees.  Almost like it's an obligation for companies/corporations/teams to share it.

I do agree though, that it would be a nice gesture.  I really hope they hook him up.

Well, unfortunately nowadays in america, it's only the corporations that "have it". I'm sure Wyc Grousbeck and Steve Pagliuca have more than enough to invest 60K or so in the happiness and loyalty of a future star player who is down on his luck and his health.

[j804]

If Jeff's going to be hanging around the team this year, I wonder if it's possible to get him some kind of salary as a special assistant coach or something for the season.

I kind of agree with Thumper on this one.  If he's going to be around and the team wants him around, they should find some way to get him a paycheck. 

I agree with this too. The team has enough money, sign him to some type of non-player job that doesn't count against the cap. It shouldn't be for a ton of money, but they could give him a decent, normal working guy salary for a year.

Not trying to be cynical, but how do you know the team has enough money to sign him to some type of non-player job that doesn't count against the cap?  So many of us assume that corporations "have it" to give to employees.  Almost like it's an obligation for companies/corporations/teams to share it.

I do agree though, that it would be a nice gesture.  I really hope they hook him up.

Well, unfortunately nowadays in america, it's only the corporations that "have it". I'm sure Wyc Grousbeck and Steve Pagliuca have more than enough to invest 60K or so in the happiness and loyalty of a future star player who is down on his luck and his health.

Danny if he has any leverage would probably be the first to do that and a little arse kissing, for perhaps a future discounted contract? lol

[chambers]

If Jeff's going to be hanging around the team this year, I wonder if it's possible to get him some kind of salary as a special assistant coach or something for the season.

I kind of agree with Thumper on this one.  If he's going to be around and the team wants him around, they should find some way to get him a paycheck. 

I agree with this too. The team has enough money, sign him to some type of non-player job that doesn't count against the cap. It shouldn't be for a ton of money, but they could give him a decent, normal working guy salary for a year.

Not trying to be cynical, but how do you know the team has enough money to sign him to some type of non-player job that doesn't count against the cap?  So many of us assume that corporations "have it" to give to employees.  Almost like it's an obligation for companies/corporations/teams to share it.

I do agree though, that it would be a nice gesture.  I really hope they hook him up.

Well, unfortunately nowadays in america, it's only the corporations that "have it". I'm sure Wyc Grousbeck and Steve Pagliuca have more than enough to invest 60K or so in the happiness and loyalty of a future star player who is down on his luck and his health.

60K? Wyc wipes his nose with that much.
They'll pay for his medical bills and throw him a lackey job worth at least 100-150K.
It's nothing to them financially this year but it's everything in the long run when we want to resign him and those gestures influence his decision on where to play.

[LooseCannon]

If Jeff's going to be hanging around the team this year, I wonder if it's possible to get him some kind of salary as a special assistant coach or something for the season.

It's against the CBA for someone to be paid as a player-coach, so my instinct is that it would be and ought to be treated as attempted salary cap circumvention that should not be permitted so long as Green has a perceived intention of returning as an active player.

[Celtics18]

If Jeff's going to be hanging around the team this year, I wonder if it's possible to get him some kind of salary as a special assistant coach or something for the season.

It's against the CBA for someone to be paid as a player-coach, so my instinct is that it would be and ought to be treated as attempted salary cap circumvention that should not be permitted so long as Green has a perceived intention of returning as an active player.

But he wouldn't be a player coach.  He would just be a coach.  Currently, with his voided contract, he is not getting paid to play basketball in the NBA.

I don't see any circumvention going on, and if the NBA were to disallow such a situation, then they really are vindictive, heartless, greedy you-know-whats.

[hpantazo]

If Jeff's going to be hanging around the team this year, I wonder if it's possible to get him some kind of salary as a special assistant coach or something for the season.

It's against the CBA for someone to be paid as a player-coach, so my instinct is that it would be and ought to be treated as attempted salary cap circumvention that should not be permitted so long as Green has a perceived intention of returning as an active player.

But he wouldn't be a player coach.  He would just be a coach.  Currently, with his voided contract, he is not getting paid to play basketball in the NBA.

I don't see any circumvention going on, and if the NBA were to disallow such a situation, then they really are vindictive, heartless, greedy you-know-whats.

Well they did force us to keep Reggie Lewis' contract on the books well after his death, for starters.

[Fafnir]

Giving him a salary as anything other than a player would be a salary cap violation.

Giving him a contract despite his physical would probably give him another year of service in the league and he'd become a UFA instead of a restricted one.

[guava_wrench]

brown nose to a team that dumped you?..

naw..

What about going to the company party or eating on free lunch days when you are out due to temporary disability?

The team didn't dump him. He wasn't physically ready to do his job, so he couldn't get a contract. I am all for players getting their market value, but this is not a charity. The team needs to give payroll money to people who contribute. The team did nothing wrong here and that is why Jeff Green holds no ill will.

The ability to use Celtics resources for free for training is also very valuable, especially during rehab after his surgery.

[twinbree]

I love that the team is doing this. I imagine Jeff needs all the support he can get at this time. And another of the reasons I love Doc is that he does a great job fostering an atmosphere of family within the team and genuinely treats the players like sons.

WRT compensation for the year the team is paying his medical bills which in this country is no small amount. It's a shame his contract was voided but God willing he will be back next season to sign another one. We can't hire him as a coach because it would obviously look like an attempt to circumvent the rules. Even if he was qualified to be a coach which he's not, how much time will he have with surgery and rehab to coach? Maybe they can hire him as a part-time intern or a scout.

[TripleOT]

This is great and all, but I wished my Celtics had that same level of loyalty when Leon Powe wrecked his knee playing hurt for the playoffs with KG out a few seasons ago.

Not to be jaded, but it's easier to be loyal when it doesn't cost the club much to do so.  In Powe's case, throwing him a minimum deal right away wasn't deemed to be cost effective, so they waited until he secured the same deal elsewhere before throwing their half hearted deal out there. 

It still bothers me three seasons later that the Cs didn't stand by Powe, who played on a bad knee in the playoffs in a contract year to help his shorthanded team, because they were shorthanded without KG.     

[LooseCannon]

If Jeff's going to be hanging around the team this year, I wonder if it's possible to get him some kind of salary as a special assistant coach or something for the season.

It's against the CBA for someone to be paid as a player-coach, so my instinct is that it would be and ought to be treated as attempted salary cap circumvention that should not be permitted so long as Green has a perceived intention of returning as an active player.

But he wouldn't be a player coach.  He would just be a coach.  Currently, with his voided contract, he is not getting paid to play basketball in the NBA.

I don't see any circumvention going on, and if the NBA were to disallow such a situation, then they really are vindictive, heartless, greedy you-know-whats.

This is really easy to see.  Since Green has plans of coming back to play (and the Celtics have plans to bring him back, if he is physically capable), you need to avoid the appearance of any possibility that you pay Green money now and in exchange he signs for less in the future, giving the Celtics more cap room or a break on luxury tax.

It would be more acceptable to promise some sort of job if he is unable to make a comeback from his condition.

There might even be explicit rules concerning this set of circumstances.  Maybe someone who isn't allergic to Twitter can ask a local sportswriter about it.

[Snakehead]

UBUNTU.

This story made me happy.  It's easy to be cynical about pro sports these days, but you read a story like this and it gives you hope. I'm glad we have such a class organization, from the players to the coaches.

[guava_wrench]

This is great and all, but I wished my Celtics had that same level of loyalty when Leon Powe wrecked his knee playing hurt for the playoffs with KG out a few seasons ago.

Not to be jaded, but it's easier to be loyal when it doesn't cost the club much to do so.  In Powe's case, throwing him a minimum deal right away wasn't deemed to be cost effective, so they waited until he secured the same deal elsewhere before throwing their half hearted deal out there. 

It still bothers me three seasons later that the Cs didn't stand by Powe, who played on a bad knee in the playoffs in a contract year to help his shorthanded team, because they were shorthanded without KG.     

Smart decision by Danny. What has Powe done since then?

Completely different situation. Green isn't a FA fielding offers. 'Loyalty' is irrelevant in such a situation.

Seems to me like people expect the Celtics to be 'loyal' but not other Boston teams when those teams dump players left and right that they don't feel are worth retaining anymore. Funny how that works.

[jpd985]

If Jeff's going to be hanging around the team this year, I wonder if it's possible to get him some kind of salary as a special assistant coach or something for the season.

I kind of agree with Thumper on this one.  If he's going to be around and the team wants him around, they should find some way to get him a paycheck. 

I agree with this too. The team has enough money, sign him to some type of non-player job that doesn't count against the cap. It shouldn't be for a ton of money, but they could give him a decent, normal working guy salary for a year.

Not trying to be cynical, but how do you know the team has enough money to sign him to some type of non-player job that doesn't count against the cap?  So many of us assume that corporations "have it" to give to employees.  Almost like it's an obligation for companies/corporations/teams to share it.

I do agree though, that it would be a nice gesture.  I really hope they hook him up.

Well, unfortunately nowadays in america, it's only the corporations that "have it". I'm sure Wyc Grousbeck and Steve Pagliuca have more than enough to invest 60K or so in the happiness and loyalty of a future star player who is down on his luck and his health.

60K? Wyc wipes his nose with that much.
They'll pay for his medical bills and throw him a lackey job worth at least 100-150K.
It's nothing to them financially this year but it's everything in the long run when we want to resign him and those gestures influence his decision on where to play.

How many lackey jobs do you know of that pay a 6 figure salary?

[BballTim]

If Jeff's going to be hanging around the team this year, I wonder if it's possible to get him some kind of salary as a special assistant coach or something for the season.

I kind of agree with Thumper on this one.  If he's going to be around and the team wants him around, they should find some way to get him a paycheck. 

I agree with this too. The team has enough money, sign him to some type of non-player job that doesn't count against the cap. It shouldn't be for a ton of money, but they could give him a decent, normal working guy salary for a year.

Not trying to be cynical, but how do you know the team has enough money to sign him to some type of non-player job that doesn't count against the cap?  So many of us assume that corporations "have it" to give to employees.  Almost like it's an obligation for companies/corporations/teams to share it.

I do agree though, that it would be a nice gesture.  I really hope they hook him up.

Well, unfortunately nowadays in america, it's only the corporations that "have it". I'm sure Wyc Grousbeck and Steve Pagliuca have more than enough to invest 60K or so in the happiness and loyalty of a future star player who is down on his luck and his health.

60K? Wyc wipes his nose with that much.
They'll pay for his medical bills and throw him a lackey job worth at least 100-150K.
It's nothing to them financially this year but it's everything in the long run when we want to resign him and those gestures influence his decision on where to play.

How many lackey jobs do you know of that pay a 6 figure salary?

  Congressmen and senators for starters, that's over 500.