Ever since the big 3, Ainge has been horrid at drafting

[NextCeltic34]

JR Giddens
Bill Walker
Avery Bradley
Etc

There has not been 1 young guy in the last 4-5 years who has stuck around and made any impact on this team.

Ainge is wasting 1st round picks of guys who are either projects or make absolutely no impact what so ever... but yet he's able to find some decent guys in the 2nd... (Erden, Harangody, Moore)

When it's all said and done, and the big 3 are retired, we are not gonna have any young guys to build on from these past years....

[dtrader]

JR Giddens
Bill Walker
Avery Bradley
Etc

There has not been 1 young guy in the last 4-5 years who has stuck around and made any impact on this team.

Ainge is wasting 1st round picks of guys who are either projects or make absolutely no impact what so ever... but yet he's able to find some decent guys in the 2nd... (Erden, Harangody, Moore)

When it's all said and done, and the big 3 are retired, we are not gonna have any young guys to build on from these past years....

You wrote "etc.", but what is the "etc"?  Who else is there?  Bill Walker is still in the league, and may still be for another 4-5 years.  That leaves Giddens and Bradley as the draft misses.  If either Moore or JJJ (or both) pan out, thats really not that bad considering how late we've been drafting.  If you add in all the gems Ainge has mined in later rounds, I dont think there's any reason to knock his drafting.  Hindsight is 20/20, but there's PLENTY of other teams that have done way worse with way more.

[Roy H.]

Semih was a success in the Giddens draft.  Lester Hudson looks like he can play, and could be in the league next year.  (At last look, he was leading the Chinese Basketball Association in scoring).  Harangody could last for a bit as an end of roster player.

We'll see on JJ and Moore. 

So, his misses are really Giddens, and potentially Bradley.  Giddens didn't last, but he was the 30th pick in the draft, in a draft where Danny repeatedly said he didn't like the talent.  Sure, a lot of us wanted Chalmers, CDR, or Jordan, but Danny wanted a more mature guy who could compete right away.  It didn't work out.  With Bradley, Danny took upside.  It's clear Bradley has the athleticism and the defense to stick in the league; time will tell if the offense is there.

It's hard to condemn somebody for their drafting when they've picked 19th, 30th, and in the 50s.  Danny doesn't have any huge success stories, but historically, very few GMs have.

[Change]

All of them late picks; what do you expect? I believe most of those picks remain in the league.

[barefacedmonk]

Gabe Pruitt latched on to the Magic this season. I doubt he'll make it to the final roster though.

[BASS_THUMPER]

talent is not like it use to be..

[kgiessler]

Picks numbers 60/30, 58, and 52/19 have been the last three years.

What were you expecting?  You were expecting impact players?

Amazingly, he has managed to make something out of nothing on many occasions.  Bill Walker was acquired by 'cash considerations".  So even though that something isn't all that good, it hard to be critical.

How about Rondo?  Does Rondo get to count as someone in the last five years that has made an impact?  Or are we just going to forget about him? 

[33_Larry Legend_33]

Gabe Pruitt latched on to the Magic this season. I doubt he'll make it to the final roster though.

I noted in the other section that he was just cut tonight...

[Moranis]

I think the OP's point is that Ainge used to draft much better in similar positions.  Perkins, West, Allen, and Rondo were all drafted in the 20's.  Jefferson was 15.

Of course he missed badly in 05 (gerald green though did get Gomes at 50) and traded the 06 lottery pick for Telfair (he made up for it by purchasing 21 to take Rondo), which was before the big 3. 

[Snakehead]

Yeah, late first rounders and 2nd rounders are tearing it up all over the league!

....

 



(I will come back one day to quote all these Avery Bradley haters when he is still in the league in as a TA type player)

[BballTim]

I think the OP's point is that Ainge used to draft much better in similar positions.  Perkins, West, Allen, and Rondo were all drafted in the 20's.  Jefferson was 15.

Of course he missed badly in 05 (gerald green though did get Gomes at 50) and traded the 06 lottery pick for Telfair (he made up for it by purchasing 21 to take Rondo), which was before the big 3. 

  The 06 pick was to do a Raef for Theo trade, which led to KG. Not exactly a disaster.

[Fafnir]

I think the OP's point is that Ainge used to draft much better in similar positions.  Perkins, West, Allen, and Rondo were all drafted in the 20's.  Jefferson was 15.

Of course he missed badly in 05 (gerald green though did get Gomes at 50) and traded the 06 lottery pick for Telfair (he made up for it by purchasing 21 to take Rondo), which was before the big 3. 

His hit rate with 2nd rounders is still rather impressive, especially if Moore ends up being useful at all.

His hit rate with low first rounders is something I'd still stack up against any GM in the league. But he's regressing to the mean somewhat the average pick in the 20s is a rotation guy. (with busts and steals mixed in aka Rondo/Green)

[Moranis]

I think the OP's point is that Ainge used to draft much better in similar positions.  Perkins, West, Allen, and Rondo were all drafted in the 20's.  Jefferson was 15.

Of course he missed badly in 05 (gerald green though did get Gomes at 50) and traded the 06 lottery pick for Telfair (he made up for it by purchasing 21 to take Rondo), which was before the big 3. 

  The 06 pick was to do a Raef for Theo trade, which led to KG. Not exactly a disaster.

It wasn't an immediate turn around so you can't use it like that, especially when you don't know if the deal could have been made using Raef anyway.

[BballTim]

I think the OP's point is that Ainge used to draft much better in similar positions.  Perkins, West, Allen, and Rondo were all drafted in the 20's.  Jefferson was 15.

Of course he missed badly in 05 (gerald green though did get Gomes at 50) and traded the 06 lottery pick for Telfair (he made up for it by purchasing 21 to take Rondo), which was before the big 3. 

  The 06 pick was to do a Raef for Theo trade, which led to KG. Not exactly a disaster.

It wasn't an immediate turn around so you can't use it like that, especially when you don't know if the deal could have been made using Raef anyway.

  You also can't completely ignore the fact that we saved about $13M in that deal and it put us in a position to make the deals we did and act like it was a straight up draft pick for Telfair deal.

[celtics2]

Really his only genius was finding Allen and KG. I think his MO was draft the best regardless of position. How'd that work out? Can he build a team? The way we go through players in Boston no wonder better players avoid us like the Plague.