Celtics were close to signing David West

[snively]

David West will be a nice addition for Indiana.

PG - D.Collison, G.Hill
SG - P.George, D.Jones
SF - D.Granger, B.Rush
PF - D.West, T.Hansbrough
C  - R.Hibbert, J.Foster

They have a nice squad there. Not enough top tier talent to do anything unless Paul George makes a huge leap but I like their balance and depth. The mix of talent.

Its the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round.

sounds like the celtics without david west.

Really?  Barring a Paul George sophomore surge, we're better at every position except the 5, and Hibbert isn't really much better than JO.

The teams are not comparable.

[bruinsandceltics]

The anger at David West is predictable, I guess, but in my opinion unfounded.  He took a deal for more money and probably a bigger role?  Good for him.  It's probably what most of us would have done in the same situation.

I'm disappointed, but not with David West.

A bigger role? He would have been starting and been one of only 3 established bigs on a team with a title chance.

Sorry, but if you are fine with playing for a mediocre team for a few more bucks than that says it all about your character. Winners would do anything to win, that includes taking less money.

Doesn't mean David West is a bad guy, but just shows that he doesn't want to win. Which is fine, as long as we don't sugar coat it.

[clawlin]

David West will be a nice addition for Indiana.

PG - D.Collison, G.Hill
SG - P.George, D.Jones
SF - D.Granger, B.Rush
PF - D.West, T.Hansbrough
C  - R.Hibbert, J.Foster

They have a nice squad there. Not enough top tier talent to do anything unless Paul George makes a huge leap but I like their balance and depth. The mix of talent.

I read somewhere that Paul George grew another inch during the offseason, and now stands at 6'10".

I also hear that the Pacers may look to S&T McRoberts for O.J. Mayo.

Wow, a 6-10 two guard. If only he had a post game! Or any type of power game whatsoever!

Paul George is a really exciting prospect. I can't wait to see what he does next. How he develops this season. One of the young players in the league I am most excited about.

I don't like that S+T for Indiana. I think they are better off without OJ Mayo. That he will only make them worse. OJ Mayo is a downgrade from George Hill (plays defense) as a backup combo guard. And I prefer Brandon Rush as a wing (as a big two with P.George going to the three) because Rush has real size, plays defense and rebounds.

With the trade I just mentioned,  the OJ Mayo trade makes a lot of sense.

PG- Paul, Hill
SG- Mayo, Jones
SF- Granger, Posey
PF- West, ?
C-Okafor, Foster

Hill is a great 6th man in that scenario, despite what Mayo does.

For NO, the situation as it would stand:

PG- Collison, Jack
SG- George, Rush, White
SF- Ariza, Pondexter
PF- Hansbrough, Summers
C-Hibbert, Butch

That is a cheap, young squad with a lot of promise.  Pretty much Indiana's starting lineup minus Granger, but that team got to the playoffs.  Paul George will not have to operate behind Granger and might breakout.

[indeedproceed]

David West will be a nice addition for Indiana.

PG - D.Collison, G.Hill
SG - P.George, D.Jones
SF - D.Granger, B.Rush
PF - D.West, T.Hansbrough
C  - R.Hibbert, J.Foster

They have a nice squad there. Not enough top tier talent to do anything unless Paul George makes a huge leap but I like their balance and depth. The mix of talent.

Its the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round.

sounds like the celtics without david west.

Really?  Barring a Paul George sophomore surge, we're better at every position except the 5, and Hibbert isn't really much better than JO.

The teams are not comparable.

Roy Hibbert on the Celtics would put us back into the talk for the top 2 or 3 in the East. He is way better than Jermaine O'Neal, unless you think better health, better scoring, better rebounding, and being only 24 yrs old are irrelevant.

[Who]

David West will be a nice addition for Indiana.

PG - D.Collison, G.Hill
SG - P.George, D.Jones
SF - D.Granger, B.Rush
PF - D.West, T.Hansbrough
C  - R.Hibbert, J.Foster

They have a nice squad there. Not enough top tier talent to do anything unless Paul George makes a huge leap but I like their balance and depth. The mix of talent.

Its the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round.

sounds like the celtics without david west.

Really?  Barring a Paul George sophomore surge, we're better at every position except the 5, and Hibbert isn't really much better than JO.

The teams are not comparable.

I think Indiana will be a lot like the Hawks from a few years.

They won 36-37 games and had a good showing in the playoffs. Then the next season, a couple of their young make solid improvements across the board and they become a 45-48 win team.

I think Indiana is in a similar situation. A similar path.   

[BballTim]

David West will be a nice addition for Indiana.

PG - D.Collison, G.Hill
SG - P.George, D.Jones
SF - D.Granger, B.Rush
PF - D.West, T.Hansbrough
C  - R.Hibbert, J.Foster

They have a nice squad there. Not enough top tier talent to do anything unless Paul George makes a huge leap but I like their balance and depth. The mix of talent.

Its the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round.

sounds like the celtics without david west.

Really?  Barring a Paul George sophomore surge, we're better at every position except the 5, and Hibbert isn't really much better than JO.

The teams are not comparable.

Roy Hibbert on the Celtics would put us back into the talk for the top 2 or 3 in the East. He is way better than Jermaine O'Neal, unless you think better health, better scoring, better rebounding, and being only 24 yrs old are irrelevant.

  Back into the talk for the top 2 or 3 in the East? Did we suddenly become the Hawks? It's a bummer we didn't get West, but this is fairly ridiculous.

[PosImpos]

David West will be a nice addition for Indiana.

PG - D.Collison, G.Hill
SG - P.George, D.Jones
SF - D.Granger, B.Rush
PF - D.West, T.Hansbrough
C  - R.Hibbert, J.Foster

They have a nice squad there. Not enough top tier talent to do anything unless Paul George makes a huge leap but I like their balance and depth. The mix of talent.

Its the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round.

sounds like the celtics without david west.

Really?  Barring a Paul George sophomore surge, we're better at every position except the 5, and Hibbert isn't really much better than JO.

The teams are not comparable.

no no no, i meant the "it's the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round."


that, to me, sounds like a good description of the 2011-2012 celtics without david west.

[indeedproceed]

David West will be a nice addition for Indiana.

PG - D.Collison, G.Hill
SG - P.George, D.Jones
SF - D.Granger, B.Rush
PF - D.West, T.Hansbrough
C  - R.Hibbert, J.Foster

They have a nice squad there. Not enough top tier talent to do anything unless Paul George makes a huge leap but I like their balance and depth. The mix of talent.

Its the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round.

sounds like the celtics without david west.

Really?  Barring a Paul George sophomore surge, we're better at every position except the 5, and Hibbert isn't really much better than JO.

The teams are not comparable.

Roy Hibbert on the Celtics would put us back into the talk for the top 2 or 3 in the East. He is way better than Jermaine O'Neal, unless you think better health, better scoring, better rebounding, and being only 24 yrs old are irrelevant.

  Back into the talk for the top 2 or 3 in the East? Did we suddenly become the Hawks? It's a bummer we didn't get West, but this is fairly ridiculous.

Without an actual center, with likely decreases in production from Pierce, Garnett, and Allen, its hardly ridiculous.

You're telling me that:

Rondo
Allen
Pierce
Garnett
?

Plus a bench of Bass, Jeff Green, Daniels, Johnson and Moore is a top 2 team in the East? I'm just not seeing it. Not with more condensed games.

[BballTim]

David West will be a nice addition for Indiana.

PG - D.Collison, G.Hill
SG - P.George, D.Jones
SF - D.Granger, B.Rush
PF - D.West, T.Hansbrough
C  - R.Hibbert, J.Foster

They have a nice squad there. Not enough top tier talent to do anything unless Paul George makes a huge leap but I like their balance and depth. The mix of talent.

Its the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round.

sounds like the celtics without david west.

Really?  Barring a Paul George sophomore surge, we're better at every position except the 5, and Hibbert isn't really much better than JO.

The teams are not comparable.

no no no, i meant the "it's the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round."


that, to me, sounds like a good description of the 2011-2012 celtics without david west.

  I'd be fairly happy with 50 wins this year.

[clawlin]

David West will be a nice addition for Indiana.

PG - D.Collison, G.Hill
SG - P.George, D.Jones
SF - D.Granger, B.Rush
PF - D.West, T.Hansbrough
C  - R.Hibbert, J.Foster

They have a nice squad there. Not enough top tier talent to do anything unless Paul George makes a huge leap but I like their balance and depth. The mix of talent.

Its the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round.

sounds like the celtics without david west.

Really?  Barring a Paul George sophomore surge, we're better at every position except the 5, and Hibbert isn't really much better than JO.

The teams are not comparable.

no no no, i meant the "it's the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round."


that, to me, sounds like a good description of the 2011-2012 celtics without david west.

  I'd be fairly happy with 50 wins this year.

50 actual wins or 50 proportional wins?

[vinnie]

David West will be a nice addition for Indiana.

PG - D.Collison, G.Hill
SG - P.George, D.Jones
SF - D.Granger, B.Rush
PF - D.West, T.Hansbrough
C  - R.Hibbert, J.Foster

They have a nice squad there. Not enough top tier talent to do anything unless Paul George makes a huge leap but I like their balance and depth. The mix of talent.

Its the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round.

sounds like the celtics without david west.

Really?  Barring a Paul George sophomore surge, we're better at every position except the 5, and Hibbert isn't really much better than JO.

The teams are not comparable.

no no no, i meant the "it's the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round."


that, to me, sounds like a good description of the 2011-2012 celtics without david west.

  I'd be fairly happy with 50 wins this year.

Anything more than 44 wins with this team will shock me. Fourth in the east and second round exit with the current roster

[indeedproceed]

David West will be a nice addition for Indiana.

PG - D.Collison, G.Hill
SG - P.George, D.Jones
SF - D.Granger, B.Rush
PF - D.West, T.Hansbrough
C  - R.Hibbert, J.Foster

They have a nice squad there. Not enough top tier talent to do anything unless Paul George makes a huge leap but I like their balance and depth. The mix of talent.

Its the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round.

sounds like the celtics without david west.

Really?  Barring a Paul George sophomore surge, we're better at every position except the 5, and Hibbert isn't really much better than JO.

The teams are not comparable.

no no no, i meant the "it's the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round."


that, to me, sounds like a good description of the 2011-2012 celtics without david west.

  I'd be fairly happy with 50 wins this year.

50 actual wins or 50 proportional wins?

50 actual wins is a regular season champion. I'd be okay with that.

[PosImpos]

David West will be a nice addition for Indiana.

PG - D.Collison, G.Hill
SG - P.George, D.Jones
SF - D.Granger, B.Rush
PF - D.West, T.Hansbrough
C  - R.Hibbert, J.Foster

They have a nice squad there. Not enough top tier talent to do anything unless Paul George makes a huge leap but I like their balance and depth. The mix of talent.

Its the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round.

sounds like the celtics without david west.

Really?  Barring a Paul George sophomore surge, we're better at every position except the 5, and Hibbert isn't really much better than JO.

The teams are not comparable.

no no no, i meant the "it's the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round."


that, to me, sounds like a good description of the 2011-2012 celtics without david west.

  I'd be fairly happy with 50 wins this year.

yuck yuck yuck, you know what i meant.


equivalent to 40 wins in this condensed season.

[PosImpos]

David West will be a nice addition for Indiana.

PG - D.Collison, G.Hill
SG - P.George, D.Jones
SF - D.Granger, B.Rush
PF - D.West, T.Hansbrough
C  - R.Hibbert, J.Foster

They have a nice squad there. Not enough top tier talent to do anything unless Paul George makes a huge leap but I like their balance and depth. The mix of talent.

Its the type of team that gets you close to 50 hard wins, is a threat to beat any team on any night, and will likely drive a team nuts before going down in the 1st or 2nd round.

sounds like the celtics without david west.

Really?  Barring a Paul George sophomore surge, we're better at every position except the 5, and Hibbert isn't really much better than JO.

The teams are not comparable.

Roy Hibbert on the Celtics would put us back into the talk for the top 2 or 3 in the East. He is way better than Jermaine O'Neal, unless you think better health, better scoring, better rebounding, and being only 24 yrs old are irrelevant.

  Back into the talk for the top 2 or 3 in the East? Did we suddenly become the Hawks? It's a bummer we didn't get West, but this is fairly ridiculous.

Without an actual center, with likely decreases in production from Pierce, Garnett, and Allen, its hardly ridiculous.

You're telling me that:

Rondo
Allen
Pierce
Garnett
?

Plus a bench of Bass, Jeff Green, Daniels, Johnson and Moore is a top 2 team in the East? I'm just not seeing it. Not with more condensed games.

i'm with IP on this one. 

in a condensed season much younger, offensive minded teams like the Knicks will have an advantage over a team like the C's.  teams like the Pacers will steal wins from older teams.  if the Nets get Howard, that pg/c combo will beat a lot of teams.

[cman88]

so much for west wanting to take less $$ to win. but I dont see how he is the make/break deal for us being competitive. Danny made the right move not overpaying for a 31yo coming off a major knee surgery

brandon bass isnt exactly a JAG backing up KG. 11.2PPG and 5.6rb in 26minutes last year for the Magic, better shooter than BBD and doesnt take as any dumb shots

The real key is Health/getting our bench consistent. if Jeff Green/Brandon bass can provide scoring off the bench I think we have enough depth to take on the heat.

but playing the heat with a 1armed rondo, nonexistant BBD playing center isnt going to win us any games