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[Kane3387]

Interesting that the original version of the trade didn't work on the trade machine.

On the other hand, the Hornets are picking up +11 wins with the revised trade, so it must be good for them, right? 

Well, at least Hollinger's computers and I agree that the trade will be horrible for Houston.  John Hollinger himself, however, seems to believe that Houston is a big winner.  Probably because he has to believe that to justify this trade, which benefits his Lakers.

He's assuming that they'll get Nene in his analysis.

no way that happens unless nene really wants to play in houston.  he'll have to take less money than he'd get elsewhere.

No he won't they can amnesty Thabeet and decline some options. They'll have enough cap room to offer him the max.

Do you think that committing $57 million over three years to Pau Gasol (31 1/2 years old) and $70+ million over four years to Nene (29 years old) is a wise move for Houston, especially in this era of less flexibility for luxury tax teams?

That's over 60% of your cap to two guys entering the latter stages of their career.  I'm not sure what Boy Wonder Morey is thinking.

Advanced stats love Nene and Gasol I know that. My guess is that they rate out as top 5 big men to the Houston GM.

He's taking his stab to win now finally, he wasn't going to survive being just out of the playoffs any longer.

I don't think it will work, but that's his plan.

yeah, my guess is that both Morey and Demps are feeling pressured to make the playoffs this year.  thats the only way the deal makes sense for either team.

Doubt demps is. There better off with a great pick this year then a seventh seed...

[PAOBoston]

there are rumors that odom has been left out of the deal? can anyone confirm this? i gotta a feeling this trade is gonna be bogus.

[Roy H.]

there are rumors that odom has been left out of the deal? can anyone confirm this? i gotta a feeling this trade is gonna be bogus.

I hope he has, because that would mean Pau and Bynum are being shipped out.  If that's the case, I can live with this trade, as it would be making the Lakers worse and would end any Dwight Howard speculation.

[Kane3387]

Don't see how this deal happens without Bynum to NO. He's the only player from NO point of view worth sacrificing the chance at a high draft pick for.

[PAOBoston]

there are rumors that odom has been left out of the deal? can anyone confirm this? i gotta a feeling this trade is gonna be bogus.

I hope he has, because that would mean Pau and Bynum are being shipped out.  If that's the case, I can live with this trade, as it would be making the Lakers worse and would end any Dwight Howard speculation.

my fear is that they keep both odom/bynum and just offload a bunch of young players (scrubs) in the deal giving them both odom/bynum to dangle for howard.

but bynum should be included in the deal as the young centerpiece for NO.

[barefacedmonk]

Most recent construction of CP3 trade, sources say, does indeed still send Odom to NOH. Hornets want him as much as Martin/Scola, even ...

- Marc Stein on Twitter.

[Roy H.]

Most recent construction of CP3 trade, sources say, does indeed still send Odom to NOH. Hornets want him as much as Martin/Scola, even ...

- Marc Stein on Twitter.

Yep, so no Bynum.

The amazing additions to this deal will be Caracter + Ebanks + Hill for Okafor.  That justifies it for "basketball reasons".  Taking on $8 million in short term salary to save $13 million in two years, while giving up a superstar and your second best player.

[PosImpos]

Gery Woelfel: Besides the headliners, Rockets pf Jordan Hill appears bound for New Orleans

Hill, Caracter, and Ebanks...  these are the type of young players with potential Stern was talking about, right?

(If true, Hornets would be taking on around $7.3 million in salary, rather than $3.7.  Well done.)

trade makes less and less sense.  will hill even play with scola and odom on board?

[RebusRankin]

Now if the Lakers get Paul but lose Bynum and Pau with only Odom left as a big, how do we feel?

[Roy H.]

Or not: 

Saturday, December 10

Chad Ford: Lots of speculation that Emeka Okafor is in the new CP3 deal. Source says he is not part of trade

[RebusRankin]

Character, Eubanks and Hill are quality young pieces?

[PosImpos]

Most recent construction of CP3 trade, sources say, does indeed still send Odom to NOH. Hornets want him as much as Martin/Scola, even ...

- Marc Stein on Twitter.

Yep, so no Bynum.

The amazing additions to this deal will be Caracter + Ebanks + Hill for Okafor.  That justifies it for "basketball reasons".  Taking on $8 million in short term salary to save $13 million in two years, while giving up a superstar and your second best player.

turns out stern loves the lakers after all.

[barefacedmonk]

Most recent construction of CP3 trade, sources say, does indeed still send Odom to NOH. Hornets want him as much as Martin/Scola, even ...

- Marc Stein on Twitter.

Yep, so no Bynum.

The amazing additions to this deal will be Caracter + Ebanks + Hill for Okafor.  That justifies it for "basketball reasons".  Taking on $8 million in short term salary to save $13 million in two years, while giving up a superstar and your second best player.

Makes no sense....but its the Lakers..you have to please them anyhow.

Even though Hornets know Odom doesn't want to leave LA. Their preference is keeping him but sense is they'll trade him on if they have to

- Marc Stein

[Roy H.]

Most recent construction of CP3 trade, sources say, does indeed still send Odom to NOH. Hornets want him as much as Martin/Scola, even ...

- Marc Stein on Twitter.

Yep, so no Bynum.

The amazing additions to this deal will be Caracter + Ebanks + Hill for Okafor.  That justifies it for "basketball reasons".  Taking on $8 million in short term salary to save $13 million in two years, while giving up a superstar and your second best player.

turns out stern loves the lakers after all.

Yeah, who knew that he vetoed the deal because the Lakers weren't making out well enough?

Chris Ford says Okafor isn't included, though.  Ariza?  Jack?

[PosImpos]

Now if the Lakers get Paul but lose Bynum and Pau with only Odom left as a big, how do we feel?

id be okay with that. 

paul - bryant - peace - odom - okafor is a good team, but maybe not so much better than the lakers were before.