Rondo-Paul Trade Thread (Merged)

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I don't want CP3 at all.  His knees are a disaster waiting to happen.  Google Chris Paul and knees... Keep Rondo...

This.

Aside from Rondo not being able to shoot, he's pretty much on par if not better than what CP can do. He's younger, healthier and cheaper. They should focus on finding a scorer which Rondo can feed the ball to.

[The DarkPassenger]

I don't want CP3 at all.  His knees are a disaster waiting to happen.  Google Chris Paul and knees... Keep Rondo...

This.

Aside from Rondo not being able to shoot, he's pretty much on par if not better than what CP can do. He's younger, healthier and cheaper. They should focus on finding a scorer which Rondo can feed the ball to.

agreed. That should be one path that Danny should look into if he can't land CP3. Might look at Josh Smith from the Hawks, both were teammates before in high school and played in some charity games together during the lock out.

I heard that Ainge tried to get Russel Westbrook and Perkins from the Thunder for Rondo and Green, which he did after the season ended and heat was on Westbrook which might have made him a trade target.

ALSO just heard on ESPN that CP3 will NOT sign an extension with the Celtics, which Danny has said is a must in order to from to come here.

[Who]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/216863/Paul_Uninterested_In_Signing_Extension_With_Celtics

"Chris Paul is not interested in signing an extension with the Celtics, according to a source close to the situation.

I expect this will prove true. I think Chris Paul will be very reluctant to sign an extension with Boston prior to the trade or shortly after completion.

He'll want to do like Deron Williams is in NJ and (1) go to Boston, and, (2) give the team a chance to show it can build a long term Championship nucleus around him before deciding whether to sign there long term or not.

The Celtics current title opportunity being offset by their (1) aging stars, and, (2) more likely than not, ensuing long term rebuilding process.

[Kane3387]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/216863/Paul_Uninterested_In_Signing_Extension_With_Celtics

"Chris Paul is not interested in signing an extension with the Celtics, according to a source close to the situation.

I expect this will prove true. I think Chris Paul will be very reluctant to sign an extension with Boston prior to the trade or shortly after completion.

He'll want to do like Deron Williams is in NJ and (1) go to Boston, and, (2) give the team a chance to show it can build a long term Championship nucleus around him before deciding whether to sign there long term or not.

The Celtics current title opportunity being offset by their (1) aging stars, and, (2) more likely than not, ensuing long term rebuilding process.

Its never over until it's over. Don't believe me? Look at this. As it said on the Home Page WE as in CELTIC's FANS have been here before. Remember this?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2912075

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I don't want CP3 at all.  His knees are a disaster waiting to happen.  Google Chris Paul and knees... Keep Rondo...

This.

Aside from Rondo not being able to shoot, he's pretty much on par if not better than what CP can do. He's younger, healthier and cheaper. They should focus on finding a scorer which Rondo can feed the ball to.

agreed. That should be one path that Danny should look into if he can't land CP3. Might look at Josh Smith from the Hawks, both were teammates before in high school and played in some charity games together during the lock out.

I heard that Ainge tried to get Russel Westbrook and Perkins from the Thunder for Rondo and Green, which he did after the season ended and heat was on Westbrook which might have made him a trade target.

ALSO just heard on ESPN that CP3 will NOT sign an extension with the Celtics, which Danny has said is a must in order to from to come here.

I just saw it too. Im just hoping that this does not affect Rajon. Knowing that he's expendable, he might not be 100% mentally committed to play for Boston now.

[Greenbean]

I don't want CP3 at all.  His knees are a disaster waiting to happen.  Google Chris Paul and knees... Keep Rondo...

This.

Aside from Rondo not being able to shoot, he's pretty much on par if not better than what CP can do. He's younger, healthier and cheaper. They should focus on finding a scorer which Rondo can feed the ball to.

They would be trading for a superstar that can lure in other superstars.

Chris Paul would be an immediate upgrade over Rondo and represent a shorter bridge to continued success. Yes his knees could go in 5 years but hopefully in that time they can rebuild the roster.

Ainge is not confident he can build a roster with just Rondo and Pierce as the building blocks for the next championship post 2012...Im not either. What FA wants to come into that situation? Who would accept a trade here? There are just too many other, more attractive landing spots now.


He has tp be creative.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/216863/Paul_Uninterested_In_Signing_Extension_With_Celtics

"Chris Paul is not interested in signing an extension with the Celtics, according to a source close to the situation.

I expect this will prove true. I think Chris Paul will be very reluctant to sign an extension with Boston prior to the trade or shortly after completion.

He'll want to do like Deron Williams is in NJ and (1) go to Boston, and, (2) give the team a chance to show it can build a long term Championship nucleus around him before deciding whether to sign there long term or not.

The Celtics current title opportunity being offset by their (1) aging stars, and, (2) more likely than not, ensuing long term rebuilding process.

Its never over until it's over. Don't believe me? Look at this. As it said on the Home Page WE as in CELTIC's FANS have been here before. Remember this?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2912075

KG okay'ed because we got Ray Allen on board. Who else do we need to get CP3?

[Interceptor]

I'm not sure that I understand how CP3 gets to the Knicks. Him, Amar'e, and Marshmelo make a hojillion dollars between the three of them. Do they sign Spike Lee for the vet minimum?

I guess it'd work in 2012/13, once Billups is gone?

[indeedproceed]

Aside from Rondo not being able to shoot, he's pretty much on par if not better than what CP can do.

That's not true. I'd say Rondo's passing and rebounding are on par with CP3. There is nothing else on the offensive side of the ball that Rondo does better.

Defensively, I'm in the minority when I say I think that they're a lot closer than others might think. I think that KG and Perk, and to a lesser extent Jermaine O'Neal and Sheed, has inflated Rajon Rondo's defensive reputation a bit, to the point where stops that are actually the work of the great rotation in the post get attributed to Rondo on the stat sheet.

I still think Rondo is the better defender, but I don't think he's on another level or anything than Paul.

He's younger, healthier and cheaper. They should focus on finding a scorer which Rondo can feed the ball to.

Rondo is 1 calender year younger, and of the two of them which one played 80 games last season, and which one played less than 70 games last season?

[Who]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/216863/Paul_Uninterested_In_Signing_Extension_With_Celtics

"Chris Paul is not interested in signing an extension with the Celtics, according to a source close to the situation.

I expect this will prove true. I think Chris Paul will be very reluctant to sign an extension with Boston prior to the trade or shortly after completion.

He'll want to do like Deron Williams is in NJ and (1) go to Boston, and, (2) give the team a chance to show it can build a long term Championship nucleus around him before deciding whether to sign there long term or not.

The Celtics current title opportunity being offset by their (1) aging stars, and, (2) more likely than not, ensuing long term rebuilding process.

Its never over until it's over. Don't believe me? Look at this. As it said on the Home Page WE as in CELTIC's FANS have been here before. Remember this?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2912075

The difference between Garnett and Paul is that Garnett was walking into a team that could be a contender for the next 3+ years.

What does Chris Paul have? 1 year? Then rebuilding?

It's not enough. The Celtics future isn't clear enough beyond this season to convince C.Paul to sign a long term extension here prior to next summer.

I think the C's have a good chance at convincing Paul to stay next summer if they make a huge free agent acquisition (say Dwight Howard) or a couple of big free agent signings (that could form the core to a contender) ... but they'll have to roll the dice, acquire Paul and and play out this season, before they can convince him whether or not the team is able to offer him Championship caliber teammates for the next 5+ years of his career.

No point in Paul agreeing to anything less than that ... when he can simply wait and pick the best option next summer. Guarantee himself a squad capable of competing for a title (which Boston cannot currently offer past this season).

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I don't want CP3 at all.  His knees are a disaster waiting to happen.  Google Chris Paul and knees... Keep Rondo...

This.

Aside from Rondo not being able to shoot, he's pretty much on par if not better than what CP can do. He's younger, healthier and cheaper. They should focus on finding a scorer which Rondo can feed the ball to.

They would be trading for a superstar that can lure in other superstars.

Chris Paul would be an immediate upgrade over Rondo and represent a shorter bridge to continued success. Yes his knees could go in 5 years but hopefully in that time they can rebuild the roster.

Ainge is not confident he can build a roster with just Rondo and Pierce as the building blocks for the next championship post 2012...Im not either. What FA wants to come into that situation? Who would accept a trade here? There are just too many other, more attractive landing spots now.


He has tp be creative.

Can't Rondo be one of the piece? Beside, Chris Paul wouldn't want to sign anyway if he sees a depleted Celtic roster. As Tim Legler in ESPN just said, this is just about winning THIS YEAR. I know it's about winning. But if we're gonna have tons of cap space nobody that is big to sign, why bother. Rondo and Pierce can lure solid players. Paul will bolt to New York. Howard will go somewhere else, maybe here if Rajon is still on board. Compare that to just Pierce and a lot of cap space.

[Ganguido]

Even if we won't win this year - we won't win as a family!
I don't care about CP3 shooting skills - I KNOW that he s averaging less than 16 points a game last year!!! In bull**** NOH! With such a "ballhog shooters" like belinelli or d.west.
R u kidding me?! Why do we need him? Why do we need his knees?!
Rondo got no $hot?! - So? come on Danny! Give him one more shooter!
Trade Baby for Mayo.And don't waste time and sign Chuck Hayes and Aron Gray - your job is done for this season SO!
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Perk was our new Chief? So why didn't he signed a contract which Danny gave him?!May be 'cos he wanted 2-3M a year more? - Is this a price for being Celtic?Shmuck!
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Leave this starting 5.
Rondo-Ray-Truth-KG-JO
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Take a good bench
Delonte-Mayo-Green-JJ-Hayes&Gray +Moore&Bradley+sign Marquis!
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And go to WAR!

[Greenbean]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/216863/Paul_Uninterested_In_Signing_Extension_With_Celtics

"Chris Paul is not interested in signing an extension with the Celtics, according to a source close to the situation.

I expect this will prove true. I think Chris Paul will be very reluctant to sign an extension with Boston prior to the trade or shortly after completion.

He'll want to do like Deron Williams is in NJ and (1) go to Boston, and, (2) give the team a chance to show it can build a long term Championship nucleus around him before deciding whether to sign there long term or not.

The Celtics current title opportunity being offset by their (1) aging stars, and, (2) more likely than not, ensuing long term rebuilding process.

It'd be a HUGE gamble, but I would still trade for Paul with no extension...

We could win a championship. It would be worth it and even if the chances are 50/50 of resigning him, its still worth it if we get 18...

[manl_lui]

Even if we won't win this year - we won't win as a family!
I don't care about CP3 shooting skills - I KNOW that he s averaging less than 16 points a game last year!!! In bull**** NOH! With such a "ballhog shooters" like belinelli or d.west.
R u kidding me?! Why do we need him? Why do we need his knees?!
Rondo got no $hot?! - So? come on Danny! Give him one more shooter!
Trade Baby for Mayo.And don't waste time and sign Chuck Hayes and Aron Gray - you job is done for this season!
---
Perk was our new Chief? So why didn't he signed a contract which Danny gave him?!May be 'cos he wanted 2-3M a year more? - Is this a price for being Celtic?Shmuck!
---
Leave this starting 5.
Rondo-Ray-Truth-KG-JO
-
Take a good bench
Delonte-Mayo-Green-JJ-Hayes&Gray +Moore&Bradley+sign Marquis!
---
And go to WAR!

im stuck being a fan and a businessman...I am so pro-anything thats beneficial for the team

and if CP3 ensures getting Dwight, I'm all for it

but as a big fan, I don't want to see this family break up , and i agree, if we lose, we lose as a family...but ALSO as a fan, I want to WIN

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Aside from Rondo not being able to shoot, he's pretty much on par if not better than what CP can do.

That's not true. I'd say Rondo's passing and rebounding are on par with CP3. There is nothing else on the offensive side of the ball that Rondo does better.

Defensively, I'm in the minority when I say I think that they're a lot closer than others might think. I think that KG and Perk, and to a lesser extent Jermaine O'Neal and Sheed, has inflated Rajon Rondo's defensive reputation a bit, to the point where stops that are actually the work of the great rotation in the post get attributed to Rondo on the stat sheet.

I still think Rondo is the better defender, but I don't think he's on another level or anything than Paul.

He's younger, healthier and cheaper. They should focus on finding a scorer which Rondo can feed the ball to.

Rondo is 1 calender year younger, and of the two of them which one played 80 games last season, and which one played less than 70 games last season?

With all due respect Commish. But Rondo has proven to be more healthier than CP3 is. Besides, Rondo can still be under contract. Who's sure if Paul will stay next year?