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Is there a Tebow double standard, and if so what is it?

Yes, for him, because he's a Jesus guy
15 (26.3%)
Yes, against him, because he's a Jesus guy
13 (22.8%)
No. He's being treated fairly
7 (12.3%)
Yes,against him, because he was drafted high
2 (3.5%)
Yes against him, because he's making NFL types and talent evaluators look dumb.
2 (3.5%)
Yes, for him, because he's an underdog breaking the rules
8 (14%)
Other - explain
2 (3.5%)
Tebow defies all explanation. Don't even try.
8 (14%)

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Re: Is there a Tebow double standard, and if so what is it?
« Reply #60 on: January 10, 2012, 01:52:36 PM »

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« Reply #61 on: January 10, 2012, 03:58:38 PM »

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So to respond to several different threads....yes I watched the SNL skit. In typical SNL fashion it wasn't funny. Yes Jesus was a down to Earth character. He also came off as condecending and they portrayed Tebow as clueless, which is odd because he won the Heisman for academics as well. Jesus also stated there were limits on God's power like "You gotta meet me half way. I mean the Patriots? I'm not sure even God can help ya with that one! I mean Brady is my cousin. You're screwed you untalented dork. Good luck"

Do you think they'll do a skit this week where Jesus shows up and tells Tebow he did awesome? "That's what I'm talkin bout Tim! Me and Skip Bayless knew you could do it! Screw that Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. bag Rothlisloser!" Yeah right. Not gonna happen.

Tebow doesn't shove his faith in anyone's face. He genuflects when he wants to. He points to the sky. He says thank you to God. In college he put eye black with Bible verses on his face. And he puts a Bible verse on his facebook weekly. He also practices what he preaches. He isn't half as in your face as a player who gets a "get paid" tatoo and then goes in a stop snitching video. He doesn't put himself in my face half as much as a typical Peyton Manning year of advertisements. He doesn't put himself in people's face half as much as a typical week in the life of Muhammed Ali's boxing career. Yes Ali. I get it. You're the greatest. Heard you the first time. He's not as in your face as Rex Ryan either. He's practicing what he does. Also I see how doing the pro-life ad could bother people. But I'm not seeing how the organization is bigoted unless you say it is because it actively lobbies against gay marriage. Gotta remember the doctors told his mom to abort him. If you were supposed to be aborted and your mom prayed to Jesus and then you were born and won a Heisman and went to the NFL you might actually be thankful to Jesus too. In a manner of speaking Jesus really is his savior, because for Tebow if his mom had listened to the doctors instead of Jesus he wouldn't be here, hence he really was saved by Jesus, so naturally we should ridicule him on SNL.

Also let's not kid ourselves. If there was a kid actively praising Allah and Muhammed or Yahweh SNL would never have the guts to do a comparable skit. Never.

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« Reply #62 on: January 10, 2012, 04:06:35 PM »

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So to respond to several different threads....yes I watched the SNL skit. In typical SNL fashion it wasn't funny. Yes Jesus was a down to Earth character. He also came off as condecending and they portrayed Tebow as clueless, which is odd because he won the Heisman for academics as well. Jesus also stated there were limits on God's power like "You gotta meet me half way. I mean the Patriots? I'm not sure even God can help ya with that one! I mean Brady is my cousin. You're screwed you untalented dork. Good luck"

Do you think they'll do a skit this week where Jesus shows up and tells Tebow he did awesome? "That's what I'm talkin bout Tim! Me and Skip Bayless knew you could do it! Screw that **** bag Rothlisloser!" Yeah right. Not gonna happen.

Tebow doesn't shove his faith in anyone's face. He genuflects when he wants to. He points to the sky. He says thank you to God. In college he put eye black with Bible verses on his face. And he puts a Bible verse on his facebook weekly. He also practices what he preaches. He isn't half as in your face as a player who gets a "get paid" tatoo and then goes in a stop snitching video. He doesn't put himself in my face half as much as a typical Peyton Manning year of advertisements. He doesn't put himself in people's face half as much as a typical week in the life of Muhammed Ali's boxing career. Yes Ali. I get it. You're the greatest. Heard you the first time. He's not as in your face as Rex Ryan either. He's practicing what he does. Also I see how doing the pro-life ad could bother people. But I'm not seeing how the organization is bigoted unless you say it is because it actively lobbies against gay marriage. Gotta remember the doctors told his mom to abort him. If you were supposed to be aborted and your mom prayed to Jesus and then you were born and won a Heisman and went to the NFL you might actually be thankful to Jesus too. In a manner of speaking Jesus really is his savior, because for Tebow if his mom had listened to the doctors instead of Jesus he wouldn't be here, hence he really was saved by Jesus, so naturally we should ridicule him on SNL.

Also let's not kid ourselves. If there was a kid actively praising Allah and Muhammed or Yahweh SNL would never have the guts to do a comparable skit. Never.

I'm guessing Tim Tebow has a way better sense of humor about the SNL jokes about him than you do here eja. It really seems like you're outraged at the perceived hypocrisy (I don't think there is hypocrisy here, but I see that you do) way more than you are offended by the actual joke, and that rings a bit hollow to me here.

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« Reply #63 on: January 10, 2012, 04:06:53 PM »

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So to respond to several different threads....yes I watched the SNL skit. In typical SNL fashion it wasn't funny. Yes Jesus was a down to Earth character. He also came off as condecending and they portrayed Tebow as clueless, which is odd because he won the Heisman for academics as well. Jesus also stated there were limits on God's power like "You gotta meet me half way. I mean the Patriots? I'm not sure even God can help ya with that one! I mean Brady is my cousin. You're screwed you untalented dork. Good luck"

Do you think they'll do a skit this week where Jesus shows up and tells Tebow he did awesome? "That's what I'm talkin bout Tim! Me and Skip Bayless knew you could do it! Screw that **** bag Rothlisloser!" Yeah right. Not gonna happen.

Tebow doesn't shove his faith in anyone's face. He genuflects when he wants to. He points to the sky. He says thank you to God. In college he put eye black with Bible verses on his face. And he puts a Bible verse on his facebook weekly. He also practices what he preaches. He isn't half as in your face as a player who gets a "get paid" tatoo and then goes in a stop snitching video. He doesn't put himself in my face half as much as a typical Peyton Manning year of advertisements. He doesn't put himself in people's face half as much as a typical week in the life of Muhammed Ali's boxing career. Yes Ali. I get it. You're the greatest. Heard you the first time. He's not as in your face as Rex Ryan either. He's practicing what he does. Also I see how doing the pro-life ad could bother people. But I'm not seeing how the organization is bigoted unless you say it is because it actively lobbies against gay marriage. Gotta remember the doctors told his mom to abort him. If you were supposed to be aborted and your mom prayed to Jesus and then you were born and won a Heisman and went to the NFL you might actually be thankful to Jesus too. In a manner of speaking Jesus really is his savior, because for Tebow if his mom had listened to the doctors instead of Jesus he wouldn't be here, hence he really was saved by Jesus, so naturally we should ridicule him on SNL.

Also let's not kid ourselves. If there was a kid actively praising Allah and Muhammed or Yahweh SNL would never have the guts to do a comparable skit. Never.

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« Reply #64 on: January 10, 2012, 04:14:58 PM »

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So to respond to several different threads....yes I watched the SNL skit. In typical SNL fashion it wasn't funny. Yes Jesus was a down to Earth character. He also came off as condecending and they portrayed Tebow as clueless, which is odd because he won the Heisman for academics as well. Jesus also stated there were limits on God's power like "You gotta meet me half way. I mean the Patriots? I'm not sure even God can help ya with that one! I mean Brady is my cousin. You're screwed you untalented dork. Good luck"

Do you think they'll do a skit this week where Jesus shows up and tells Tebow he did awesome? "That's what I'm talkin bout Tim! Me and Skip Bayless knew you could do it! Screw that **** bag Rothlisloser!" Yeah right. Not gonna happen.

Tebow doesn't shove his faith in anyone's face. He genuflects when he wants to. He points to the sky. He says thank you to God. In college he put eye black with Bible verses on his face. And he puts a Bible verse on his facebook weekly. He also practices what he preaches. He isn't half as in your face as a player who gets a "get paid" tatoo and then goes in a stop snitching video. He doesn't put himself in my face half as much as a typical Peyton Manning year of advertisements. He doesn't put himself in people's face half as much as a typical week in the life of Muhammed Ali's boxing career. Yes Ali. I get it. You're the greatest. Heard you the first time. He's not as in your face as Rex Ryan either. He's practicing what he does. Also I see how doing the pro-life ad could bother people. But I'm not seeing how the organization is bigoted unless you say it is because it actively lobbies against gay marriage. Gotta remember the doctors told his mom to abort him. If you were supposed to be aborted and your mom prayed to Jesus and then you were born and won a Heisman and went to the NFL you might actually be thankful to Jesus too. In a manner of speaking Jesus really is his savior, because for Tebow if his mom had listened to the doctors instead of Jesus he wouldn't be here, hence he really was saved by Jesus, so naturally we should ridicule him on SNL.

Also let's not kid ourselves. If there was a kid actively praising Allah and Muhammed or Yahweh SNL would never have the guts to do a comparable skit. Never.

I'm guessing Tim Tebow has a way better sense of humor about the SNL jokes about him than you do here eja. It really seems like you're outraged at the perceived hypocrisy (I don't think there is hypocrisy here, but I see that you do) way more than you are offended by the actual joke, and that rings a bit hollow to me here.
I'm not overly offended by the joke. SNL just isn't funny. Funniness on SNL for a while now is a little like Haley's Comet. It's not coming back for a long time so everyone stare cause it's kinda special. I couldn't expect the skit to be funny and it wasn't. But I admit the double standard bothers me. I think Tebow can laugh at himself (well who can blame him? He gets to laugh at his critics all the time) and is the first to agree that he needs to improve, so seeing Jesus as a guy who is telling him to improve probably doesn't bother Tebow a lot.

It's the double standards that bother me.

Here's another double standard that bothers me. Kyle Orton and I think Brady Quinn fined Tebow every week for not speaking out against that big billboard that was urging the team to start him. Aparently they thought it was Tebow's job to tell fans not to express their opinion.  See to me Tebow should have fined Kyle Orton for being a loser.


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« Reply #65 on: January 10, 2012, 04:19:39 PM »

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It's the double standards that bother me.

Here's another double standard that bothers me. Kyle Orton and I think Brady Quinn fined Tebow every week for not speaking out against that big billboard that was urging the team to start him. Aparently they thought it was Tebow's job to tell fans not to express their opinion.  See to me Tebow should have fined Kyle Orton for being a loser.
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Double Standard:

: A rule or principle that is unfairly applied in different ways to different people or groups:

Just because you don't like what Orton/Quinn thought about how Tebow dealt with the billboard doesn't make it a double standard.

Considering that your whole thrust is a hypothetical double standard to begin with I doubt you'll agree with the definition though.

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« Reply #66 on: January 10, 2012, 04:25:28 PM »

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Also let's not kid ourselves. If there was a kid actively praising Allah and Muhammed or Yahweh SNL would never have the guts to do a comparable skit. Never.

It's not a matter of guts, it's that mocking the minority is never as comically effective as mocking the majority.

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So to respond to several different threads....yes I watched the SNL skit. In typical SNL fashion it wasn't funny. Yes Jesus was a down to Earth character. He also came off as condecending and they portrayed Tebow as clueless, which is odd because he won the Heisman for academics as well. Jesus also stated there were limits on God's power like "You gotta meet me half way. I mean the Patriots? I'm not sure even God can help ya with that one! I mean Brady is my cousin. You're screwed you untalented dork. Good luck"

Do you think they'll do a skit this week where Jesus shows up and tells Tebow he did awesome? "That's what I'm talkin bout Tim! Me and Skip Bayless knew you could do it! Screw that **** bag Rothlisloser!" Yeah right. Not gonna happen.

Tebow doesn't shove his faith in anyone's face. He genuflects when he wants to. He points to the sky. He says thank you to God. In college he put eye black with Bible verses on his face. And he puts a Bible verse on his facebook weekly. He also practices what he preaches. He isn't half as in your face as a player who gets a "get paid" tatoo and then goes in a stop snitching video. He doesn't put himself in my face half as much as a typical Peyton Manning year of advertisements. He doesn't put himself in people's face half as much as a typical week in the life of Muhammed Ali's boxing career. Yes Ali. I get it. You're the greatest. Heard you the first time. He's not as in your face as Rex Ryan either. He's practicing what he does. Also I see how doing the pro-life ad could bother people. But I'm not seeing how the organization is bigoted unless you say it is because it actively lobbies against gay marriage. Gotta remember the doctors told his mom to abort him. If you were supposed to be aborted and your mom prayed to Jesus and then you were born and won a Heisman and went to the NFL you might actually be thankful to Jesus too. In a manner of speaking Jesus really is his savior, because for Tebow if his mom had listened to the doctors instead of Jesus he wouldn't be here, hence he really was saved by Jesus, so naturally we should ridicule him on SNL.

Also let's not kid ourselves. If there was a kid actively praising Allah and Muhammed or Yahweh SNL would never have the guts to do a comparable skit. Never.

I'm guessing Tim Tebow has a way better sense of humor about the SNL jokes about him than you do here eja. It really seems like you're outraged at the perceived hypocrisy (I don't think there is hypocrisy here, but I see that you do) way more than you are offended by the actual joke, and that rings a bit hollow to me here.
I'm not overly offended by the joke. SNL just isn't funny. Funniness on SNL for a while now is a little like Haley's Comet. It's not coming back for a long time so everyone stare cause it's kinda special. I couldn't expect the skit to be funny and it wasn't. But I admit the double standard bothers me. I think Tebow can laugh at himself (well who can blame him? He gets to laugh at his critics all the time) and is the first to agree that he needs to improve, so seeing Jesus as a guy who is telling him to improve probably doesn't bother Tebow a lot.

It's the double standards that bother me.

Here's another double standard that bothers me. Kyle Orton and I think Brady Quinn fined Tebow every week for not speaking out against that big billboard that was urging the team to start him. Aparently they thought it was Tebow's job to tell fans not to express their opinion.  See to me Tebow should have fined Kyle Orton for being a loser.


http://www.newsoxy.com/sports/tebow-fined-47038.html

Ah, I see. Well, I can understand why you feel that way, especially about Islamic culture (as for the accusations about the jewish hypothetical, I think that you're way wrong there, and I'm pretty sure I can back that one up), and FTR, I do agree; SNL often is just plain not funny. If Kristen Wiig and Jason Sudekis are in the skit, it's got a shot (i enjoyed the tebow sketch), but just about every time I see keenan or this guy I know there is about a 70% chance that the sketch is going to be awful.

Bill Hader, Sudekis, Wiig, and Taran Killiam have all grown on me though.

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« Reply #68 on: January 10, 2012, 04:32:20 PM »

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Also let's not kid ourselves. If there was a kid actively praising Allah and Muhammed or Yahweh SNL would never have the guts to do a comparable skit. Never.

It's not a matter of guts, it's that mocking the minority is never as comically effective as mocking the majority.
It's just that SNL keeps showing they aren't very concerned with being comically effective.

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« Reply #69 on: January 10, 2012, 04:34:13 PM »

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Mocking Tebow is not the same thing as mocking Christianity.  I just don't see how people don't get this.  

Troy Palamalu prays after every single PLAY every single game.  No mocking of him or his faith (which is coincidentally Christianity).
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It's the double standards that bother me.

Here's another double standard that bothers me. Kyle Orton and I think Brady Quinn fined Tebow every week for not speaking out against that big billboard that was urging the team to start him. Aparently they thought it was Tebow's job to tell fans not to express their opinion.  See to me Tebow should have fined Kyle Orton for being a loser.
http://www.newsoxy.com/sports/tebow-fined-47038.html
Double Standard:

: A rule or principle that is unfairly applied in different ways to different people or groups:

Just because you don't like what Orton/Quinn thought about how Tebow dealt with the billboard doesn't make it a double standard.

Considering that your whole thrust is a hypothetical double standard to begin with I doubt you'll agree with the definition though.
So you think if someone put up a "Start Brady Quinn" board this week Tebow would have fined him and should have been able to?

Of course nobody does. Because there are double standards being applied to Tebow.

People want us to think he's the Forest Gump of sports just sorta tumbling into major playoff wins.  The rest of us know that isn't accurate.

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Also let's not kid ourselves. If there was a kid actively praising Allah and Muhammed or Yahweh SNL would never have the guts to do a comparable skit. Never.

It's not a matter of guts, it's that mocking the minority is never as comically effective as mocking the majority.
It's just that SNL keeps showing they aren't very concerned with being comically effective.


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Also let's not kid ourselves. If there was a kid actively praising Allah and Muhammed or Yahweh SNL would never have the guts to do a comparable skit. Never.

It's not a matter of guts, it's that mocking the minority is never as comically effective as mocking the majority.
It's just that SNL keeps showing they aren't very concerned with being comically effective.


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That Barkley epi was pretty funny though. The Barkley translator and the TNT skit were both just awesome. Pass on the lord windemere and lesbian skits though.

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Mocking Tebow is not the same thing as mocking Christianity.  I just don't see how people don't get this.  

Troy Palamalu prays after every single PLAY every single game.  No mocking of him or his faith (which is coincidentally Christianity).
I'm pretty sure Troy doesn't kneel after every play, and in between celebrating Super Bowl wins with a rapist or his squeaky clean USC buddies I never heard Troy thank God and I'm not aware of him going to the Philipines to do missionary work.

I'm well aware Troy is a good guy. Nick brought up a certain black/white difference. Now let's see. Are there any differences between the two?

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Mocking Tebow is not the same thing as mocking Christianity.  I just don't see how people don't get this.  

Troy Palamalu prays after every single PLAY every single game.  No mocking of him or his faith (which is coincidentally Christianity).

This is also very true.