breaking news on a deal to report:
Toine's Boys send Joe Johnson and Designated Drinkers 2nd rounder
Kwhit send Chase Budinger and Aaron Brooks
Awaiting commish's approval. Thought's?
Wow.
Wow.
2nd deal in a few days where I'd asked about a player, the price was way too high, then the player gets moved for 70cents on the dollar.
When I asked 2 days ago about JJ, Big Al Jefferson's name was tossed out by his owner... quite a step down to a backup PG and a backup SF. Guess I shoulda countered with Randy Foye and Mike Miller; 
Like Roy said, it depends on how you view the players. Budinger and Brooks are not backup players. They are both very young and promising, which is what I was looking for. Budinger came into his own late last season as a starter who put up big numbers for the rockets, and Brooks has already proven himself to be a very productive starter in the NBA before his falling out in houston. I love the potential of both of these guys going forward. Brooks alone may match JJ's numbers a year from now. I had 2 other offers I seriously considered for JJ. One had 2 young players that I did not prefer as much as these 2, The other had a better younger player in return but was asking for more than JJ and a 2nd rounder and didn't get back to me in time before I accepted this offer.
GC, I was straightfoward in negotiating with you. There are no other young promising players on your roster that I would want other than Big Al and Westbrook, and having Rondo deterred me from asking for Westbrook. I did mention I could offer more than JJ in return, but when you responded stating that it was unlikely I could offer enough, I let it go. TP for posting your thoughts, I hope to trade with you sometime again in the future.
True.... i hope no one takes the rantings of a down-on-his-luck fantasy GM as anything but that. I certainly meant no ill will and didn't mean to suggest that you or any other GMs havent' been straightforward.
Hpantazo was direct in saying what he wanted... that's all you can ask for. I was just surprised I guess by the return on Joe J.
You can only deal with the players you have and each GM values each player(s) differently... i think that's part of what makes this all fun. I'm sure there have been deals where people think "Man he told me he wanted X then took 1/2 of that from someone eles".
It *does* come down to player valuation. In this league I'm lower on Budinger and Brooks than in real life or in the points league, and probably higher on JJ than most.
Que sera sera... and ubuntu!
(and hey it's awesome to see all the wheelin' and dealin' in the h2h league which is usually a bit more staid.)