Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! FBB H2H League: 2012 Preseason: Constitution Up!

[Roy H.]

Of course, that means that at least one of Bonner, Robinson, and Avery Bradley has to get cut.  I guess the pre-season will determine that.

Bradley...its a no brainer. He needs to spend a year in D-League.

Dunno.  I'm a Bradley believer.

[hpantazo]

I felt than since my team has no shot at competing I may as well trade the middle aged role players for a pick (if Roy misses the finals) and someone with potential. The added side effect is I may get one of them back after Roy cuts them  

[fairweatherfan]

Also, this deal gives me an incentive to keep the pedal down all season long, to go into the playoffs with the best seeding I can.  I want that #2.   

Aren't the bottom 2 picks reserved for the finalists, regardless of playoff seed?

[hpantazo]

Also, this deal gives me an incentive to keep the pedal down all season long, to go into the playoffs with the best seeding I can.  I want that #2.   

Aren't the bottom 2 picks reserved for the finalists, regardless of playoff seed?

that's what I thought. If you miss the finals I get the 2nd rounder regardless of regular season standings

[Roy H.]

Also, this deal gives me an incentive to keep the pedal down all season long, to go into the playoffs with the best seeding I can.  I want that #2.   

Aren't the bottom 2 picks reserved for the finalists, regardless of playoff seed?

that's what I thought. If you miss the finals I get the 2nd rounder regardless of regular season standings

Yeah, to clarify, to get my pick back I need to 1) finish in the top 2 in the regular season (something I've never done), and 2) make the Finals.

[hpantazo]

Also, this deal gives me an incentive to keep the pedal down all season long, to go into the playoffs with the best seeding I can.  I want that #2.   

Aren't the bottom 2 picks reserved for the finalists, regardless of playoff seed?

that's what I thought. If you miss the finals I get the 2nd rounder regardless of regular season standings

Yeah, to clarify, to get my pick back I need to 1) finish in the top 2 in the regular season (something I've never done), and 2) make the Finals.

sounds good to me

[fairweatherfan]

Also, this deal gives me an incentive to keep the pedal down all season long, to go into the playoffs with the best seeding I can.  I want that #2.   

Aren't the bottom 2 picks reserved for the finalists, regardless of playoff seed?

that's what I thought. If you miss the finals I get the 2nd rounder regardless of regular season standings

Yeah, to clarify, to get my pick back I need to 1) finish in the top 2 in the regular season (something I've never done), and 2) make the Finals.

How does point #1 factor in?  Maybe I'm confused but I thought it was strictly who made the finals in the playoffs.

[hpantazo]

Also, this deal gives me an incentive to keep the pedal down all season long, to go into the playoffs with the best seeding I can.  I want that #2.  

Aren't the bottom 2 picks reserved for the finalists, regardless of playoff seed?

that's what I thought. If you miss the finals I get the 2nd rounder regardless of regular season standings

Yeah, to clarify, to get my pick back I need to 1) finish in the top 2 in the regular season (something I've never done), and 2) make the Finals.

How does point #1 factor in?  Maybe I'm confused but I thought it was strictly who made the finals in the playoffs.

The protection was revised since the 2 finalists are not guaranteed picks 39 and 40, which I didn't know about. Thanks Roy for a fair revision.

[Roy H.]

Also, this deal gives me an incentive to keep the pedal down all season long, to go into the playoffs with the best seeding I can.  I want that #2.   

Aren't the bottom 2 picks reserved for the finalists, regardless of playoff seed?

that's what I thought. If you miss the finals I get the 2nd rounder regardless of regular season standings

Yeah, to clarify, to get my pick back I need to 1) finish in the top 2 in the regular season (something I've never done), and 2) make the Finals.

How does point #1 factor in?  Maybe I'm confused but I thought it was strictly who made the finals in the playoffs.

From what I understand, the second round is strictly reverse order of regular season finish.

[Lucky17]

Sorry, been caught up in trade talks of my own.

I was under the impression that draft position for finalists (and lottery teams) only applies to the 1st round, and that the 2nd round is dictated by reverse order of regular season standings.

If the conditions on the pick's protection kick in, do Toine's Boys receive something else, or are they simply out of luck?

[Lucky17]

Also waiting for official confirmation from Kane on the first deal.

Another trade to announce:

Birdman trades John Salmons, Larry Sanders, Shelden Williams, and Gainesville Celtics' 2012 2nd rounder
Lucky17 trades Richard Jefferson, Francisco Garcia, and Mickael Pietrus

[Roy H.]

Also waiting for official confirmation from Kane on the first deal.

Another trade to announce:

Birdman trades John Salmons, Larry Sanders, Shelden Williams, and Gainesville Celtics' 2012 2nd rounder
Lucky17 trades Richard Jefferson, Francisco Garcia, and Mickael Pietrus

Interesting.  I'm surprised Birdman moved Sanders, based on how much he coveted him last year and because he's in the middle of a youth movement.

That said, in the short-term I like the return for Birdman better.  Sanders, though, could turn into a very nice player.

[fairweatherfan]

Also, this deal gives me an incentive to keep the pedal down all season long, to go into the playoffs with the best seeding I can.  I want that #2.   

Aren't the bottom 2 picks reserved for the finalists, regardless of playoff seed?

that's what I thought. If you miss the finals I get the 2nd rounder regardless of regular season standings

Yeah, to clarify, to get my pick back I need to 1) finish in the top 2 in the regular season (something I've never done), and 2) make the Finals.

How does point #1 factor in?  Maybe I'm confused but I thought it was strictly who made the finals in the playoffs.

From what I understand, the second round is strictly reverse order of regular season finish.

Gotcha - so for the second round it's only Point #1, and for the first only Point #2.

[hpantazo]

Sorry, been caught up in trade talks of my own.

I was under the impression that draft position for finalists (and lottery teams) only applies to the 1st round, and that the 2nd round is dictated by reverse order of regular season standings.

If the conditions on the pick's protection kick in, do Toine's Boys receive something else, or are they simply out of luck?

from what I understand, in the revised version of this deal, to get the pick Roy has to both finish in the top 2 in the regular season standing and make the finals. If that happens then I'm out of luck, he gets the pick and I don't get anything else instead.

[Birdman]

Also waiting for official confirmation from Kane on the first deal.

Another trade to announce:

Birdman trades John Salmons, Larry Sanders, Shelden Williams, and Gainesville Celtics' 2012 2nd rounder
Lucky17 trades Richard Jefferson, Francisco Garcia, and Mickael Pietrus

Interesting.  I'm surprised Birdman moved Sanders, based on how much he coveted him last year and because he's in the middle of a youth movement.

That said, in the short-term I like the return for Birdman better.  Sanders, though, could turn into a very nice player.

Lucky and i have been talking trade for 2 weeks now, lol..I really didnt want to trade Sanders but getting 3 veterans help ease that. If Garcia can stay healthy, he be a great pickup. Thanks again Lucky