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Re: Create Your Own Pub Experience: Draft Thread
« Reply #465 on: August 12, 2011, 01:08:34 PM »

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I do know that bars pay a SEVERE premium if they want to show Pay Per View fights, though.  Its not the $49.95 you pay at home.

9 bucks a seat!

Re: Create Your Own Pub Experience: Draft Thread
« Reply #466 on: August 12, 2011, 01:09:10 PM »

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If Champ has exclusive rights to TV, I will need to find a way to watch sporting events in my bar, and streaming them via the internet allows me to follow my Celtics and Pats on gamedays. I'll also stream other programming during the daylight hours (TV, movies, archived games) according to patrons' requests.

The big question:  is this legal?  For instance, can bar owners' steam NBA League Pass Broadband?

Hold on. I can actually retrieve this information.

I'd be inclined to believe that it is not legal.

Id have a hard time believing if a bar can show league pass games on TV they can't show them streaming.  It's like when MLB was considering sueing slingbox and then realized they would lose

I could always use my personal account, and watch from my laptop in the bar.

And if the laptop happened to be accidentally still connected to the flat screen monitor above the bar, oh well.
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Re: Create Your Own Pub Experience: Draft Thread
« Reply #467 on: August 12, 2011, 01:10:33 PM »

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I do know that bars pay a SEVERE premium if they want to show Pay Per View fights, though.  Its not the $49.95 you pay at home.

9 bucks a seat!

That number doesn't surprise me.  Its utterly ridiculous.

I know that's why my father's bar doesn't show PPV fights.  The cost is silly stupid.


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Re: Create Your Own Pub Experience: Draft Thread
« Reply #468 on: August 12, 2011, 01:11:27 PM »

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If Champ has exclusive rights to TV, I will need to find a way to watch sporting events in my bar, and streaming them via the internet allows me to follow my Celtics and Pats on gamedays. I'll also stream other programming during the daylight hours (TV, movies, archived games) according to patrons' requests.

The big question:  is this legal?  For instance, can bar owners' steam NBA League Pass Broadband?

Hold on. I can actually retrieve this information.

I'd be inclined to believe that it is not legal.

Id have a hard time believing if a bar can show league pass games on TV they can't show them streaming.  It's like when MLB was considering sueing slingbox and then realized they would lose

NBA League Pass Broadband user agreement:

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In addition, without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you acknowledge and agree that:

 

1.        You are only subscribing to the Service for your individual, private, non-commercial household use and enjoyment and that no part of the Service will be viewed in areas open to the public or be received by any location which is a commercial establishment;

http://neulion.vo.llnwd.net/o37/nba/player/nbalp/termsofuse.htm


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« Reply #469 on: August 12, 2011, 01:12:18 PM »

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If Champ has exclusive rights to TV, I will need to find a way to watch sporting events in my bar, and streaming them via the internet allows me to follow my Celtics and Pats on gamedays. I'll also stream other programming during the daylight hours (TV, movies, archived games) according to patrons' requests.

The big question:  is this legal?  For instance, can bar owners' steam NBA League Pass Broadband?

Hold on. I can actually retrieve this information.

I'd be inclined to believe that it is not legal.

Id have a hard time believing if a bar can show league pass games on TV they can't show them streaming.  It's like when MLB was considering sueing slingbox and then realized they would lose

I go to bars out here in Chicago that broadcast ESPN3 and broadband stuff like NCAA hockey.

I'm inclined to believe its perfectly fine.

I do know that bars pay a SEVERE premium if they want to show Pay Per View fights, though.  Its not the $49.95 you pay at home.

Bars also pay a pretty big premium to broadcast leaguepass and center ice (or whatever the NHL one is) games, as well as Sunday Ticket.

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« Reply #470 on: August 12, 2011, 01:13:54 PM »

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If Champ has exclusive rights to TV, I will need to find a way to watch sporting events in my bar, and streaming them via the internet allows me to follow my Celtics and Pats on gamedays. I'll also stream other programming during the daylight hours (TV, movies, archived games) according to patrons' requests.

The big question:  is this legal?  For instance, can bar owners' steam NBA League Pass Broadband?

Hold on. I can actually retrieve this information.

I'd be inclined to believe that it is not legal.

Id have a hard time believing if a bar can show league pass games on TV they can't show them streaming.  It's like when MLB was considering sueing slingbox and then realized they would lose

I could always use my personal account, and watch from my laptop in the bar.

And if the laptop happened to be accidentally still connected to the flat screen monitor above the bar, oh well.

You mean Malones Laptop, wonder if he can use that novelty named computer
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Re: Create Your Own Pub Experience: Draft Thread
« Reply #471 on: August 12, 2011, 01:15:47 PM »

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I unfortunately can't find anything either way about NBA broadband. But I'd have to guess that it isn't legal (though I'd allow it in this drat), just because it's another way to bring revenue to a bar. And that's revenue your cable provider and NBA League pass is going to want.

So I'd think, much like on-demand programming and DVR, that its a service that's not offered to bars/resterants.

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« Reply #472 on: August 12, 2011, 01:17:50 PM »

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Re: Create Your Own Pub Experience: Draft Thread
« Reply #473 on: August 12, 2011, 01:22:09 PM »

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I unfortunately can't find anything either way about NBA broadband. But I'd have to guess that it isn't legal (though I'd allow it in this drat), just because it's another way to bring revenue to a bar. And that's revenue your cable provider and NBA League pass is going to want.

Of course, I'll follow the letter of the law on this, just as I am sure my competitors will be scrupulously checking IDs and following fire codes and maximum room occupancy laws.

I'll restrict the big screens in the bar to sanctioned programming (ESPN3, Hulu, etc).
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Re: Create Your Own Pub Experience: Draft Thread
« Reply #474 on: August 12, 2011, 01:28:01 PM »

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If Champ has exclusive rights to TV, I will need to find a way to watch sporting events in my bar, and streaming them via the internet allows me to follow my Celtics and Pats on gamedays. I'll also stream other programming during the daylight hours (TV, movies, archived games) according to patrons' requests.

The big question:  is this legal?  For instance, can bar owners' steam NBA League Pass Broadband?

Hold on. I can actually retrieve this information.

I'd be inclined to believe that it is not legal.

Id have a hard time believing if a bar can show league pass games on TV they can't show them streaming.  It's like when MLB was considering sueing slingbox and then realized they would lose

I go to bars out here in Chicago that broadcast ESPN3 and broadband stuff like NCAA hockey.

I'm inclined to believe its perfectly fine.

I do know that bars pay a SEVERE premium if they want to show Pay Per View fights, though.  Its not the $49.95 you pay at home.

I believe you have to pay by the screen, which is pretty brutal if you have a massive bar.
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Re: Create Your Own Pub Experience: Draft Thread
« Reply #475 on: August 12, 2011, 01:28:07 PM »

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I unfortunately can't find anything either way about NBA broadband. But I'd have to guess that it isn't legal (though I'd allow it in this drat), just because it's another way to bring revenue to a bar. And that's revenue your cable provider and NBA League pass is going to want.

So I'd think, much like on-demand programming and DVR, that its a service that's not offered to bars/resterants.

Yeah, see the link above.  At least regarding the NBA, it's not legal.  I know the NFL feels similarly.

(Wasn't it the NFL who sued a church for showing the Super Bowl on a big screen?  They always want their cut of the action.)


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Re: Create Your Own Pub Experience: Draft Thread
« Reply #476 on: August 12, 2011, 01:29:04 PM »

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For Panda Pub you could need at least 2 or 4 IMAX
whats the charge on those?
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We have 4 floors, Circus maximus, project our own shows...


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« Reply #477 on: August 12, 2011, 01:31:12 PM »

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« Reply #478 on: August 12, 2011, 01:32:51 PM »

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Jack and (diet) Coke


I like it. Ladies don't seem to mind it. Goes well with just about anything, and if you put it in a pint glass you can pretend that you're just drinking soda. Win/win!

I'll trade you my jack daniels for your old NCIS and Law and Order episodes.

The day crowd has to have something to watch...or else they'll just start wondering why they're sitting in a dimly lit bar at 11am on a Wednesday in August.

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Re: Create Your Own Pub Experience: Draft Thread
« Reply #479 on: August 12, 2011, 01:34:03 PM »

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I believe you have to pay by the screen, which is pretty brutal if you have a massive bar.

Naw, 100% occupancy, which really, really stinks. Because that means you're paying 9 dollars per seat regardless of their ability to actually view a screen.

Which again, is pretty awful, cuz you have to think about all the bars that have a downstairs, or second level where tv's aren't viewed.