CB Draft Eastern Conference Finals: Sixers (1) Vs Knicks (4)

[mgent]

Correction: Gibson started on a playoff team 2 years ago.

Where he averaged 7.6 points on 41% shooting in 29 minutes.

He was an above average sub this year, but he's a below average starter, and not even on the same level as David West.  He's also 1 of 2 NY starters with only 2 years of experience.

[Roy H.]

^ That's a reasonable enough assessment, although even bouncing back from injury, I don't see West's TS% dropping down into the 50-51 range, or even the 52-53 range.  The last two seasons, he's been around .560, and he hasn't been below .532 since his second year in the league.  I also think that West will continue his above-average defense, especially sandwiched between excellent defenders like Varejao and Iguodala.

One of the things that West has going for his is that he doesn't rely solely on athleticism to score.  He's a very solid jump shooter, which will continue to open things up for him and his teammates.

EDIT:  That's in reference to Who's comments above.

[KCattheStripe]

Correction: Gibson started on a playoff team 2 years ago.

Where he averaged 7.6 points on 41% shooting in 29 minutes.

He was an above average sub this year, but he's a below average starter, and not even on the same level as David West.  He's also 1 of 2 NY starters with only 2 years of experience.

As a rookie and his defense is tremendous.

[Roy H.]

Correction: Gibson started on a playoff team 2 years ago.

Where he averaged 7.6 points on 41% shooting in 29 minutes.

He was an above average sub this year, but he's a below average starter, and not even on the same level as David West.  He's also 1 of 2 NY starters with only 2 years of experience.

As a rookie and his defense is tremendous.

I disagree.  His help defense is very good, and he's a good defender on the perimeter.  Man to man in the post, he's not really that special, in my mind.

[KCattheStripe]

Correction: Gibson started on a playoff team 2 years ago.

Where he averaged 7.6 points on 41% shooting in 29 minutes.

He was an above average sub this year, but he's a below average starter, and not even on the same level as David West.  He's also 1 of 2 NY starters with only 2 years of experience.

As a rookie and his defense is tremendous.

I disagree.  His help defense is very good, and he's a good defender on the perimeter.  Man to man in the post, he's not really that special, in my mind.

[mgent]

Correction: Gibson started on a playoff team 2 years ago.

Where he averaged 7.6 points on 41% shooting in 29 minutes.

He was an above average sub this year, but he's a below average starter, and not even on the same level as David West.  He's also 1 of 2 NY starters with only 2 years of experience.

As a rookie and his defense is tremendous.

I disagree.  His help defense is very good, and he's a good defender on the perimeter.  Man to man in the post, he's not really that special, in my mind.

How is he wrong?  You really think Gibson can slow down West or handle him in the post?

[KCattheStripe]

Correction: Gibson started on a playoff team 2 years ago.

Where he averaged 7.6 points on 41% shooting in 29 minutes.

He was an above average sub this year, but he's a below average starter, and not even on the same level as David West.  He's also 1 of 2 NY starters with only 2 years of experience.

As a rookie and his defense is tremendous.

I disagree.  His help defense is very good, and he's a good defender on the perimeter.  Man to man in the post, he's not really that special, in my mind.

How is he wrong?  You really think Gibson can slow down West or handle him in the post?

[Roy H.]

Correction: Gibson started on a playoff team 2 years ago.

Where he averaged 7.6 points on 41% shooting in 29 minutes.

He was an above average sub this year, but he's a below average starter, and not even on the same level as David West.  He's also 1 of 2 NY starters with only 2 years of experience.

As a rookie and his defense is tremendous.

I disagree.  His help defense is very good, and he's a good defender on the perimeter.  Man to man in the post, he's not really that special, in my mind.

How is he wrong?  You really think Gibson can slow down West or handle him in the post?

Taj Gibson:  .94 points allowed per possession in the post (202nd overall)

David West:  .77 points allowed per possession in the post (63rd overall)

[mgent]

Correction: Gibson started on a playoff team 2 years ago.

Where he averaged 7.6 points on 41% shooting in 29 minutes.

He was an above average sub this year, but he's a below average starter, and not even on the same level as David West.  He's also 1 of 2 NY starters with only 2 years of experience.

As a rookie and his defense is tremendous.

I disagree.  His help defense is very good, and he's a good defender on the perimeter.  Man to man in the post, he's not really that special, in my mind.

How is he wrong?  You really think Gibson can slow down West or handle him in the post?

[KCattheStripe]

Correction: Gibson started on a playoff team 2 years ago.

Where he averaged 7.6 points on 41% shooting in 29 minutes.

He was an above average sub this year, but he's a below average starter, and not even on the same level as David West.  He's also 1 of 2 NY starters with only 2 years of experience.

As a rookie and his defense is tremendous.

I disagree.  His help defense is very good, and he's a good defender on the perimeter.  Man to man in the post, he's not really that special, in my mind.

How is he wrong?  You really think Gibson can slow down West or handle him in the post?

Taj Gibson:  .94 points allowed per possession in the post (202nd overall)

David West:  .77 points allowed per possession in the post (63rd overall)

In my defense, David West is not as much of a post player in NOH's system, especially because Okafor doesn't allow for a lot of room down there. It's not like you can float him to the free throw line. So yes, i think Taj is more than capable of handling a guy whose not that good in the post, in the post.

[Roy H.]

In my defense, David West is not as much of a post player in NOH's system, especially because Okafor doesn't allow for a lot of room down there. It's not like you can float him to the free throw line. So yes, i think Taj is more than capable of handling a guy whose not that good in the post, in the post.

Roughly 50% of West's shot attempts are within 9 feet of the hoop, and he converts those hoops at a very high percentage.  Less than half of those shots are assisted, because West is very good at creating his own offense, whether it's in the low- or high-post.  However, because he also has a very good jumper (47% on shots 16-23 feet), people forget how good a post player he is.

http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=David%20West

[KCattheStripe]

In my defense, David West is not as much of a post player in NOH's system, especially because Okafor doesn't allow for a lot of room down there. It's not like you can float him to the free throw line. So yes, i think Taj is more than capable of handling a guy whose not that good in the post, in the post.

Roughly 50% of West's shot attempts are within 9 feet of the hoop, and he converts those hoops at a very high percentage.  Less than half of those shots are assisted, because West is very good at creating his own offense, whether it's in the low- or high-post.  However, because he also has a very good jumper (47% on shots 16-23 feet), people forget how good a post player he is.

http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=David%20West

A) The buckets at the rim are going to be almost entirely created off a pick and roll with Paul and not the reult of actual post moves.

B) Considering the amount of jump shots he takes, I'm confident that most of the shots in the nebulous "3-9 feet" range-- which is an odd range considering the different types of shots needed to score at 3 and 9 feet-- that most of them were closer to 9 feet away.

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[Gainesville Celtic]

West+Varejao+KMart >>> Duncan+Gibson+Turiaf

wrong equation.....


                               _______________________________   
                       _      / Duncan's rings + Meeks Shoe Size
                        \    /  ------------------------------
Deron Williams Ast/gm x  \  /     # of ACL's Blair has - 33
                          \/
 ______________________________________________________________
 
     2 x (West's waistline - # of heart surgeries for Turiaf)

[mgent]

West+Varejao+KMart >>> Duncan+Gibson+Turiaf

wrong equation.....


                               _______________________________   
                       _      / Duncan's rings + Meeks Shoe Size
                        \    /  ------------------------------
Deron Williams Ast/gm x  \  /     # of ACL's Blair has - 33
                          \/
 ______________________________________________________________
 
     2 x (West's waistline - # of heart surgeries for Turiaf)

Wade > Paul
AI > Deng