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Re: CB Draft 2011 Central Division Press Conferences
« Reply #90 on: July 26, 2011, 04:13:28 PM »

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That's your opinion.  If you think Dallas was a top defensive team in the NBA, I'd strongly disagree.  The Lakers were not among the elite defenses in the NBA when they won their championships neither.  Furthermore, it was reported that Greg Popovich wanted to gear the Spurs to a more offensive oriented team because of the direction the league was heading.  (Sorry, my google skills aren't good enough to come up with a quote.)

So, perhaps you believe that is not a playoff winning formula, but that is completely opinion and one that I (and others like Popovich and Danny Ainge based on their recent transactions) strongly disagree with.
Some of what you say isn't true. The last four champions of the NBA.

The Dallas Mavericks, 7th in defensive efficency. 105 rating
The Lakers, 4th in defensive efficiency. 103 rating
The Lakers, 6th in defensive efficiency. 104 rating
The Celtics, 1st in defensive efficiency. 99 rating

You usually need a very good offense and defense to win in the NBA. The Mavericks had a very good defense last year, as did the Lakers both title years, and of course the Celtics did in 07.

Wow, this definitely shocked me.  I don't recall the Mavs being widely regarded for their defense.  Maybe it's because they only finished 9th out of the 16 playoff teams when it came to playoff defensive efficiency (honest curiosity here, not being snide).  Which, I suppose, makes me wonder... how important is defense again?  Basketball is the only sport where they say, great defense can't always stop great offense.
The Mavericks played Portland/Lakers/Thunder/Heat in the playoffs.

Their defensive efficiency is hurt by the fact that they were playing so many top offensive squads. Even then their playoff defensive efficiency was better than their regular season number by a full 2 points. They didn't play bad defense by any means.

The playoffs are a very small sample of games, that are often match up based more than anything. To merely look at the Mavericks and say they were 9th in the playoffs defensively doesn't tell you the whole story.

Re: CB Draft 2011 Central Division Press Conferences
« Reply #91 on: July 26, 2011, 04:14:31 PM »

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Detroit Pistons

Head Coach
 
Mike Krzyzewski
Four time NCAA National Champion
Three time Naismith Coach of the year
Two gold medals on the international level
The best coach in the world.

The Starters
John Wall- PG
 
PPG  APG  RPG
16.4    8.3    4.61

John Wall is gasoline that makes this Piston go. He will force the tempo get the ball to our athletes on the break and drive the hole when that is the best option. We also expect him to show himself the elite defender that he proved to be in college. The sky is the limit for this kid and this year we expect him to take several steps closer to the sky.

DeMar DeRozan- SG
 
PPG   APG   RPG
17.2    1.8      3.8

DeRozan is a player that has not gotten his deserved publicity due to where he plays. He is a high flier that attacks the rim and goes to the line a lot. There are few players in the league that possess his speed, agility and overall athleticism. Although his defense wasn’t great for Toronto we believe that his athleticism will generate many turnovers when surrounded with other good defenders. In the second half of the year his scoring jumped to 19 points per game showing him as a young player on the rise.














Jeff Green- SF
 

PPG   APG   RPG
13.3   1.4   4.81

A lot of people on these boards have strong opinions on Green. When he was most successful for our boys in green was when he got out and ran. Time and time again he showed the ability to beat his man down the court on the fast break. With the Celtics only Rondo was able to move the ball at a speed that benefits green. On the Pistons he will constantly be running. In other way he will finally find the role that best suits him.


Josh Smith- PF
 

PPG   RPG   BLKPG
16.5   8.5   1.6

The athletic freak that is Josh Smith has never been unleashed in an uptempo system with a good point guard… until now. Very few players are better suited to run the floor, block shots grab rebounds and throw down some thunder like Josh Smith. Finally being set up by an elite fast break point guard, Smith’s fast break opportunities should only increase, which should lead to career numbers.



Emeka Okafor-C
 
PPG   RPG   BLKPG
10.3   9.5   1.8

In order to get out and run you need to create stops through defense and finish them off with a rebound. There are few centers in the league who are as good at those things as Okafor. With him and Josh Smith protecting the paint, it allows our athletic wing defenders to play aggressive and completely disrupt the other teams offense. Much like Tyson Chandler for the world champs this year, Okafor will be our defensive captain. With teams constantly retreating to defend our fast break Okafor will get many transition rebounds that he hadn’t otherwise seen in the past.


THE BENCH

Lou Williams
 
PPG   APG   RPG
13.7   3.4   2.0

Every team needs an offensive punch off the bench. Williams showed more than capable in this role for a team that plays almost the same style we aspire to play. It can never hurt to have a veteran back up who can mentor a young star point guard. He can also be used as a two guard in curtain situations to bring another ball handler onto the court.

Tony Allen
 


This year Tony Allen proved to be one of the best defenders in the league, as evidenced by his second team all defense selection. If you doubt his importance look at how much Memphis improved defensively by adding him and Battier. The battle for the starting two guard should be an intense one between him and DeMar. Ultimately we believe that TA is better off the bench, coming in with energy locking down scorers and changing the momentum of the game. Again Tony is another player who is suited for fast break because he is an athletic player who has the majority of his offense come at the rim.

Tyler Hansbrough
 
PPG   RPG   BLKPG
11.0   5.2   0.2

In my opinion my best pick. In the first round he put the Pacers on his back several times, taking over games against the top seed in the east. Once he finally got playing time his numbers skyrocketed with Indiana. Watching him play the improvement of his jump shot and athleticism from his first year to his second jumps out at you. He is a player that will outwork any others, which is evident in these improvements as well as his on the court hustle. In an up-tempo offense he will get plenty of open jump shots which he showed more than capable of making this past year. In transition teams will lose track of him which will lead to many offensive boards. Averaged 15/7 in the second half of the year.

Jared Dudley
 
PPG   APG   RPG
10.6   1.3   3.9

First of all you know he got a first rate education. Jared Dudley is the perfect glue guy for a contending team. He plays defense, grabs rebounds and hits the open 3. With him Hansbrough and Tony Allen on the bench you can expect the second unit to scrap and claw the Pistons to win. His scrappiness is not the only reason he will see court time, he is an excellent floor spacer shooting 41.5% from 3 point land.

Greg Oden
 
We all know what the deal with Greg Oden is. Unbelievable talent but has trouble staying healthy. This makes him a perfect fit for the Pistons who are one of the deepest teams in the league. If he is healthy he can play minutes behind Okafor bringing the same defensive intensity plus a solid low post game. If he can’t play then we have plenty of big man depth (especially because we are an up-tempo team) to thrive.

Jeff Foster
 
PPG   RPG   BLKPG
3.3   6.3   0.6   

Rugged big man who can come in get rebounds give some fouls and finish on the offensive glass. Another scrappy player that will help us scratch and claw our way to victories. Insurance policy in case Oden can not find the court.

Marco Belinelli
 
PPG   APG   RPG   
10.5   1.2   1.9   
Back up combo guard that can come in hit 3’s at over 40% and play very good defense. Some say he looks a lot like Stallone, which can only help the team.

Anthony Parker
   
PPG   APG   RPG   
8.3   3.0   3.0   
Veteran leadership for my young wings. Good defense and good three point shooting. Had the Celtics traded for him at the deadline he would have gone a heck of a lot higher.

Philosophy:
We’ll be the team of the present in the future. We have no interest in being the team of the future now. Potential is the enemy of the present, we are focusing on the here and the now. We will win now and in the future. Our mix of defense speed and athleticism is unrivaled in the league. From day one our goal is to win the division, then the conference then the title.

Scheme:
We are going to play aggressive team defense that forces a lot of turnovers. When we have the ball we will push it, forcing teams to match our speed in the open court (can’t be done). Our depth will aid us in this, it will allow us to constantly run keep fresh and keep the dip in our play to the minimum. Coach K will teach hard nose defense and hustle play to a team made to play that way. We will get every lose ball, every 50/50 rebound and give maximum effort all the time. If Coach K can get every superstar to play like that in the Olympics he can surely bring the same mentality to an NBA team.

Best Move:
Trading picks in the first and fourth for multiple picks in the 2nd, 3rd, 5th and 6th. We looked at the draft board before this started and realized that most of the superstar players would be gone when we picked in the first. So we moved back and were able to select Wall and Josh Smith (first round talent) in the second, then James Harden and Emeka Okafor in the 3rd. Great value in that trade.

Toughest Decision:
Trading James Harden for Jared Dudley and Tony Allen. When this trade was worked out I loved it. My problem with it from the start was public opinion. I knew people overvalued (in my mind) Harden and would not like the value I got in return for him. However, after looking at DeRozan’s stats I became comfortable with him starting at the two and was willing to trade Harden for the depth that would allow my team to play at the pace I prefer and become better defensively.
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Players: Klay Thompson, Jabari Parker, Aaron Gordon
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Re: CB Draft 2011 Central Division Press Conferences
« Reply #92 on: July 26, 2011, 04:15:03 PM »

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Re: CB Draft 2011 Central Division Press Conferences
« Reply #93 on: July 26, 2011, 04:15:56 PM »

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Boo my pictures didn't load. I have to do some work but I will manually load them later.

Willing and ready to answer questions and defend my team.
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Re: CB Draft 2011 Central Division Press Conferences
« Reply #94 on: July 26, 2011, 04:16:43 PM »

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Re: CB Draft 2011 Central Division Press Conferences
« Reply #95 on: July 26, 2011, 04:18:30 PM »

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That's your opinion.  If you think Dallas was a top defensive team in the NBA, I'd strongly disagree.  The Lakers were not among the elite defenses in the NBA when they won their championships neither.  Furthermore, it was reported that Greg Popovich wanted to gear the Spurs to a more offensive oriented team because of the direction the league was heading.  (Sorry, my google skills aren't good enough to come up with a quote.)

So, perhaps you believe that is not a playoff winning formula, but that is completely opinion and one that I (and others like Popovich and Danny Ainge based on their recent transactions) strongly disagree with.
I don't think that's what Pop did.  He simply changed the offensive system in order to rely more on Parker and their excellent 3pt shooting, rather than continuing to focus the offense around a now incapable Duncan.
Popovich coached to his team's strengths instead of how he wanted to play (like his previous Championship teams).

The decision was made based upon the strengths and weaknesses of his current roster. They simply couldn't play the same style of basketball as they used to and be successful. They didn't have the personnel anymore.

Re: CB Draft 2011 Central Division Press Conferences
« Reply #96 on: July 26, 2011, 04:21:27 PM »

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I really like the Pistons bench.

Lou Williams, Tony Allen, Jared Dudley and Jeff Foster are high quality reserves and Tyler Hansbrough is pretty solid too.

Re: CB Draft 2011 Central Division Press Conferences
« Reply #97 on: July 26, 2011, 04:21:50 PM »

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Re: CB Draft 2011 Central Division Press Conferences
« Reply #98 on: July 26, 2011, 04:24:44 PM »

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Jokes aside, I don't know adjusted pace or advanced statistics, but I watch a great deal of basketball.

I don't think there'd be much of a difference between the real Grizzlies and the Pawnee Pacers. Especially if Paul George plays the same level of defense we saw against Chicago.

Re: CB Draft 2011 Central Division Press Conferences
« Reply #99 on: July 26, 2011, 04:27:43 PM »

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Jokes aside, I don't know adjusted pace or advanced statistics, but I watch a great deal of basketball.

I don't think there'd be much of a difference between the real Grizzlies and the Pawnee Pacers. Especially if Paul George were to make the jump I think he'll take.

I think you want to reframe this argument.  You want to say that you don't think there will be a huge difference in terms of the ability to create turnovers.  However, you do think that the Pacers bring a championship / Finals MVP pedigree with Tony Parker that the "real" Grizzlies can't come close to matching.  There is a real difference between the real Grizzlies and the Pawnee Pacers:  the Pacers are better. 

Also, show some more love for Chuck Hayes, please.  I love that guy.


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Re: CB Draft 2011 Central Division Press Conferences
« Reply #100 on: July 26, 2011, 04:40:55 PM »

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Here's how I see the teams in this division ranking, with their seeding in the East:

2.  Indiana (Pawnee)
5.  Milwaukee (El Salvador)
6.  Chicago
11. Detroit

All GMs, feel free to argue why your team should be ranked higher.  (I feel terrible about Detroit, if only because they don't seem like an 11 seed to me.  However, I don't know who to move them in front of overall in the East.)

Wow, Roy can you do me a favor? Take the knife out of my back when I turn around.  But in all seriousness can you tell me why you have me this far back?

I think my team can play defense, run and muck it up with the best of them. The Sixers made the playoffs in the NBA with considerably less talent playing a similar style. My team has a lot of athletic players that can get up and defend, as well as many hustle guys that find a way to get it done. I see my team as the best in the division not the worst, but obviously I'm biased.

However, taking a look at your other rankings independent of my team (because I'm too biased), I have no idea how you think Edgars team is a playoff team. Who plays defense on that team? How many playoff teams have there been without at least a few decent defenders? Monta is a gunner, he's going to take bad shots regardless of who plays with him.

Tough althetic teams will  always beat those with good individual scorers.
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Re: CB Draft 2011 Central Division Press Conferences
« Reply #101 on: July 26, 2011, 04:43:10 PM »

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Also I would love it if anyone had questions for my team. I apologize for it taking so long to post my presser.
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Re: CB Draft 2011 Central Division Press Conferences
« Reply #102 on: July 26, 2011, 04:44:37 PM »

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That's your opinion.  If you think Dallas was a top defensive team in the NBA, I'd strongly disagree.  The Lakers were not among the elite defenses in the NBA when they won their championships neither.  Furthermore, it was reported that Greg Popovich wanted to gear the Spurs to a more offensive oriented team because of the direction the league was heading.  (Sorry, my google skills aren't good enough to come up with a quote.)

So, perhaps you believe that is not a playoff winning formula, but that is completely opinion and one that I (and others like Popovich and Danny Ainge based on their recent transactions) strongly disagree with.
I don't think that's what Pop did.  He simply changed the offensive system in order to rely more on Parker and their excellent 3pt shooting, rather than continuing to focus the offense around a now incapable Duncan.
Popovich coached to his team's strengths instead of how he wanted to play (like his previous Championship teams).

The decision was made based upon the strengths and weaknesses of his current roster. They simply couldn't play the same style of basketball as they used to and be successful. They didn't have the personnel anymore.
Exactly, it had nothing to do with with Pop wanting to focus more on offense than defense, or the fact that the winning in the league is becoming more offensively-oriented than defense (which isn't true).
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Re: CB Draft 2011 Central Division Press Conferences
« Reply #103 on: July 26, 2011, 04:50:28 PM »

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Also I would love it if anyone had questions for my team. I apologize for it taking so long to post my presser.

I just can't get my head around Derozan starting for this team. I feel like Dudley or TA is a much better fit for the starting lineup.

Thoughts?

Re: CB Draft 2011 Central Division Press Conferences
« Reply #104 on: July 26, 2011, 04:52:02 PM »

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Here's how I see the teams in this division ranking, with their seeding in the East:

2.  Indiana (Pawnee)
5.  Milwaukee (El Salvador)
6.  Chicago
11. Detroit

All GMs, feel free to argue why your team should be ranked higher.  (I feel terrible about Detroit, if only because they don't seem like an 11 seed to me.  However, I don't know who to move them in front of overall in the East.)

Wow, Roy can you do me a favor? Take the knife out of my back when I turn around.  But in all seriousness can you tell me why you have me this far back?

I think my team can play defense, run and muck it up with the best of them. The Sixers made the playoffs in the NBA with considerably less talent playing a similar style. My team has a lot of athletic players that can get up and defend, as well as many hustle guys that find a way to get it done. I see my team as the best in the division not the worst, but obviously I'm biased.

However, taking a look at your other rankings independent of my team (because I'm too biased), I have no idea how you think Edgars team is a playoff team. Who plays defense on that team? How many playoff teams have there been without at least a few decent defenders? Monta is a gunner, he's going to take bad shots regardless of who plays with him.

Tough althetic teams will  always beat those with good individual scorers.


Yeah, the Pistons are a team I feel like I have to move up.  Like with a lot of things, I guess it comes down to fit.  I don't see your team really being a cohesive team yet, and I think you have a lot of boneheads on it.  Plus, you have Jeff Green and Tony Allen, two guys who have never been Roy Hobbs' favorites. ;)  But yeah, this is a team I'll need to reconsider.

As for Edgar's team, perhaps I'm overrating his squad.  I like his big man rotation, and I'm a believer in Tyreke Evans.  At the same time, I totally understand if somebody comes along as says "I hate the fit of that squad".  Different strokes for different folks.


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