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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #2280 on: May 14, 2012, 12:30:20 PM »

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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #2281 on: May 14, 2012, 01:02:41 PM »

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Gary Neal had another strong year filling in for Manu
Mike Miller came on strong late
Diaw had a good year once he got off the bobcats
Chris Singleton had a good rookie campaign in DC
and Jared Jeffries gave everything we expected

I'm surprised you want to bring it back to possibly the worst bench in the league.

C Boris Diaw - One of the least competitive guys in the league. Can say he was a veteran leader on the most losing NBA team in league history. (Before he fell out of the rotation...) But sure he can contribute on a front runner. I guess he and Lebron will get along well.
PF Jared Jeffries - The guy Jeremy Lin thanked third after God and Mike D'Antoni. I do love Jeffries but not as a sixth man. His hands are as bad as his defense is good. 4.4 points on 41% shooting and more TOs than assists.
SF Chris Singleton - What do the DinoBoxerBots have against shooting?!? 4.6 points in almost 22 minutes per on 37.2% shooting. Had 14 scoreless starts. His 45.3% TS was 8th worst in the NBA. He's got active hands and a chip on his shoulder, could develop into another Jared Jeffries, but he's not strong or disciplined enough yet - 220th defending in ISO.
SG Mike Miller - I thought he'd bottomed out last season. 6.1 points per shooting 43.5% on lots of wide open looks and not much else. Only played in 39 games.
PG Gary Neal - The only knock down shooter, the only scorer at all, Lawrence Frank sees when he looks down the bench but Neal isn't much of a PG and has to be covered defensively.

But tell your CO-GM to apologize to me for doubting Rubio and also for saying this:

KG is not a C

Playing these players out of position....and I mean this without insult... is just plain dumb.

And then maybe we can talk.

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #2282 on: May 14, 2012, 01:07:30 PM »

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Gary Neal had another strong year filling in for Manu
Mike Miller came on strong late
Diaw had a good year once he got off the bobcats
Chris Singleton had a good rookie campaign in DC
and Jared Jeffries gave everything we expected

I'm surprised you want to bring it back to possibly the worst bench in the league.

C Boris Diaw - One of the least competitive guys in the league. Can say he was a veteran leader on the most losing NBA team in league history. (Before he fell out of the rotation...) But sure he can contribute on a front runner. I guess he and Lebron will get along well.
PF Jared Jeffries - The guy Jeremy Lin thanked third after God and Mike D'Antoni. I do love Jeffries but not as a sixth man. His hands are as bad as his defense is good. 4.4 points on 41% shooting and more TOs than assists.
SF Chris Singleton - What do the DinoBoxerBots have against shooting?!? 4.6 points in almost 22 minutes per on 37.2% shooting. Had 14 scoreless starts. His 45.3% TS was 8th worst in the NBA. He's got active hands and a chip on his shoulder, could develop into another Jared Jeffries, but he's not strong or disciplined enough yet - 220th defending in ISO.
SG Mike Miller - I thought he'd bottomed out last season. 6.1 points per shooting 43.5% on lots of wide open looks and not much else. Only played in 39 games.
PG Gary Neal - The only knock down shooter, the only scorer at all, Lawrence Frank sees when he looks down the bench but Neal isn't much of a PG and has to be covered defensively.

But tell your CO-GM to apologize to me for doubting Rubio and also for saying this:

KG is not a C

Playing these players out of position....and I mean this without insult... is just plain dumb.

And then maybe we can talk.

Nick, myself, and everyone else knew Rubio would go down injured and wrote him off accordingly. You can't blame us for accurate prophesy!

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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #2283 on: May 14, 2012, 01:52:35 PM »

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Nick, myself, and everyone else knew Rubio would go down injured and wrote him off accordingly. You can't blame us for accurate prophesy!

Look at Nostradamus over here.

B) Garnett WILL get hurt

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #2284 on: May 14, 2012, 01:57:35 PM »

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Nick, myself, and everyone else knew Rubio would go down injured and wrote him off accordingly. You can't blame us for accurate prophesy!

Look at Nostradamus over here.

B) Garnett WILL get hurt

Divine intervention, and do you really want to go tempting fate by bringing that up right now? Really?

REALLY?

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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #2285 on: May 14, 2012, 02:00:19 PM »

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I did get a little queasy pressing the post button. But then I thought, what IPs suddenly going to start being right? Nah.

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #2286 on: May 14, 2012, 02:01:05 PM »

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You'll certainly be the "Center" of attention.

It could be in a year that you're able to say "I told you so", but for now, I'm waiting to see.

Ahem...

So very few GMs believe Garnett can play center, but he's still one of the best mentors in the game, the league's very best pick and roll defender by a absurd margin, and gives me a second top 20 rebounder and what may just be the most efficient scoring 1-2 (4th and 21st)? So should I try knocking the quality of the modern-day starting centers that are supposedly going to wear Garnett down?
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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #2287 on: May 14, 2012, 02:02:09 PM »

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Gary Neal had another strong year filling in for Manu
Mike Miller came on strong late
Diaw had a good year once he got off the bobcats
Chris Singleton had a good rookie campaign in DC
and Jared Jeffries gave everything we expected

I'm surprised you want to bring it back to possibly the worst bench in the league.

C Boris Diaw - One of the least competitive guys in the league. Can say he was a veteran leader on the most losing NBA team in league history. (Before he fell out of the rotation...) But sure he can contribute on a front runner. I guess he and Lebron will get along well.
PF Jared Jeffries - The guy Jeremy Lin thanked third after God and Mike D'Antoni. I do love Jeffries but not as a sixth man. His hands are as bad as his defense is good. 4.4 points on 41% shooting and more TOs than assists.
SF Chris Singleton - What do the DinoBoxerBots have against shooting?!? 4.6 points in almost 22 minutes per on 37.2% shooting. Had 14 scoreless starts. His 45.3% TS was 8th worst in the NBA. He's got active hands and a chip on his shoulder, could develop into another Jared Jeffries, but he's not strong or disciplined enough yet - 220th defending in ISO.
SG Mike Miller - I thought he'd bottomed out last season. 6.1 points per shooting 43.5% on lots of wide open looks and not much else. Only played in 39 games.
PG Gary Neal - The only knock down shooter, the only scorer at all, Lawrence Frank sees when he looks down the bench but Neal isn't much of a PG and has to be covered defensively.

But tell your CO-GM to apologize to me for doubting Rubio and also for saying this:

KG is not a C

Playing these players out of position....and I mean this without insult... is just plain dumb.

And then maybe we can talk.

Well Keep in mind that if Chauncey didnt go down our bench immediately becomes a great deal better as Jennings would probably be one of the top3 6th men in the league.
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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #2288 on: May 14, 2012, 02:09:55 PM »

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Well Keep in mind that if Chauncey didnt go down our bench immediately becomes a great deal better as Jennings would probably be one of the top3 6th men in the league.

That's absolutely true. And didn't you pick Jennings up for a song? But Billups did get hurt. If I didn't lose Rubio mid-year there'd be an awful lot of GMs, you included, with egg on their face for leaving me out of the post season entirely.

Instead I lost Rubio for the season, Aaron Brooks made a deep playoff run in the CBA, and I was stuck cobbling together my PG rotation with minutes from Eric Bledsoe, J.J. Redick and Jordan Crawford. Oops.

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« Reply #2289 on: May 14, 2012, 02:25:48 PM »

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Well Keep in mind that if Chauncey didnt go down our bench immediately becomes a great deal better as Jennings would probably be one of the top3 6th men in the league.

That's absolutely true. And didn't you pick Jennings up for a song? But Billups did get hurt. If I didn't lose Rubio mid-year there'd be an awful lot of GMs, you included, with egg on their face for leaving me out of the post season entirely.

Instead I lost Rubio for the season, Aaron Brooks made a deep playoff run in the CBA, and I was stuck cobbling together my PG rotation with minutes from Eric Bledsoe, J.J. Redick and Jordan Crawford. Oops.

Trust me, im very impressed with your Rubio/KG picks as well as Wldeehi's bench.  Both pretty stellar.
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« Reply #2290 on: May 14, 2012, 03:19:05 PM »

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Sir Wiggle I do believe I have already admitted my mistake regarding Rubio though I do reserve the right to go back to my original opinion if he turns into an injury prone player that never reaches his potential or never learns to shoot above 40%.

Also, I believe I admitted I was wrong regarding Garnett and his positioning when you called me out with that and I posted a funny video from My Cousin Vinny.

So you were right about those things. I am man enough to admit when I am wrong. Just ask KC regarding this guy:



But give me credit when it is due. I stated at the time the Kings starters were the best starting five ever put together in a CB Draft and I stand by that. MVP, DPOY, All-Star caliber PF, solid sciring and defensive backfield to compliment Lebron the playmaker, I am always more dominant when I am the Kingpin player.

And the shooting and scoring off the bench is pretty darn good in Neal, Miller, Diaw and we have defensive role players in Nazr, Jeffries and Singleton.

Its a shame Chauncey went down but even still. That's one of the better CB teams ever put together. Though I will admit if Lebron and the Heat don't win the title, that Kings team deserves what it got because it will only prove lebron to be the playoff choking, "I'm a regular season stud and playoff wimp" that he is.

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« Reply #2291 on: May 14, 2012, 03:25:50 PM »

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Though I will admit if Lebron and the Heat don't win the title, that Kings team deserves what it got because it will only prove lebron to be the playoff choking, "I'm a regular season stud and playoff wimp" that he is.

If LeBron doesn't win this years' title, its not a death sentence to his legacy by any stretch, but its gonna be the biggest blemish he's seen yet. He wouldn't be the first guy to not win a title until he was in the league 10 years (how old was MJ, 28? 27?), but man, LeBron's gotta start making hay soon if he wants to be considered in the pantheon with MJ, Bird, Magic, etc..

Good lord I hope the Celtics whoop them in 5 humiliating games. Man I hope that happens.

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« Reply #2292 on: May 14, 2012, 03:31:48 PM »

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Though I will admit if Lebron and the Heat don't win the title, that Kings team deserves what it got because it will only prove lebron to be the playoff choking, "I'm a regular season stud and playoff wimp" that he is.

If LeBron doesn't win this years' title, its not a death sentence to his legacy by any stretch, but its gonna be the biggest blemish he's seen yet. He wouldn't be the first guy to not win a title until he was in the league 10 years (how old was MJ, 28? 27?), but man, LeBron's gotta start making hay soon if he wants to be considered in the pantheon with MJ, Bird, Magic, etc..

Good lord I hope the Celtics whoop them in 5 humiliating games. Man I hope that happens.
Let's get past Philly first but if we do....oh god would I love to see the C's beat that Heat team down.

I wonder if the Heat didn't make it to the Finals if Riley would consider trading Bron or Wade for Howard?

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« Reply #2293 on: May 14, 2012, 03:34:51 PM »

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In retrospect, Faried was about the only thing I could write home about from this prior draft.  Everything else?  Blah.....  Rose hurt.  Ray hurt.  The list goes on & on...

A Faried/Hibbert combo at the 4 & 5 would've been fun to watch, though.


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« Reply #2294 on: May 14, 2012, 03:36:15 PM »

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Though I will admit if Lebron and the Heat don't win the title, that Kings team deserves what it got because it will only prove lebron to be the playoff choking, "I'm a regular season stud and playoff wimp" that he is.

If LeBron doesn't win this years' title, its not a death sentence to his legacy by any stretch, but its gonna be the biggest blemish he's seen yet. He wouldn't be the first guy to not win a title until he was in the league 10 years (how old was MJ, 28? 27?), but man, LeBron's gotta start making hay soon if he wants to be considered in the pantheon with MJ, Bird, Magic, etc..

Good lord I hope the Celtics whoop them in 5 humiliating games. Man I hope that happens.
Let's get past Philly first but if we do....oh god would I love to see the C's beat that Heat team down.

I wonder if the Heat didn't make it to the Finals if Riley would consider trading Bron or Wade for Howard?

I think if the Heat suffered a loss like that, Riley would keep any and all options open, aside from trading Wade.

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