2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board

[KCattheStripe]

KWhit, check your pm box.

[Roy H.]

The San Antonio Spurs select Russell Westbrook.  

Very good value this late.

[wdleehi]

Nice pick.  The last of the top young star PGs. 

[Gainesville Celtic]

The San Antonio Spurs select Russell Westbrook. 

Stole Westbrook at 2.11 last year --- I think he's still underrated 'round here. should have taken him this year too, but I just decided to mix things up a bit.

Terrific pick.

hate the pierce pick 


Knicks select Al Horford

You hate Paul Pierce?

He wanted to take him

what Nick said...

Thought Pierce woudl go a few picks earlier (like him over Manu personally) and thought maybe he'd fall... I had to crash the love-fest of kudos Jgod was getting

You'll see that lots of irony/sarcasm comes out during the CelticsBlog draft.

[StartOrien]

I love Kevin Love as a player, but I don't know how I feel about him as a first round pick.

Really? He shoots FGs at .470, the tres at .417, FTs at .850, 20.2 PPG, 15.2 RBPG, 2.5 APG, and low turnover rate at around 2.1 ... I don't see any bigs left with that kind of dominance.

I think he's a solid pick, but I don't know how dominant he is. His rebounding is a bit inflated because nobody else is rebounding around him (not that he still wouldn't get 11 or 12 a game), and his defense leaves a lot to be desired.

I see quite a few defensive liabilities already picked in the first round, if that's what we're going on here. Seems to me that most people have opted for offeensive strength in the first round, (with a couple of exceptions), so why is Love held to a different standard? I wanted a big man and offense with my first pick ... Kevin fit the bill perfectly.

What I think validates some of the other guys you're referring to is them being able to inflict their will on the other end of the court.

Love's a good shooter, but still has a ways to go int he post. He's going to score, but he's not dominant.

As a first round pick, I don't think his rebounding and shooting ability are enough to warrant the selection.

[Bahku]

I love Kevin Love as a player, but I don't know how I feel about him as a first round pick.

Really? He shoots FGs at .470, the tres at .417, FTs at .850, 20.2 PPG, 15.2 RBPG, 2.5 APG, and low turnover rate at around 2.1 ... I don't see any bigs left with that kind of dominance.

I think he's a solid pick, but I don't know how dominant he is. His rebounding is a bit inflated because nobody else is rebounding around him (not that he still wouldn't get 11 or 12 a game), and his defense leaves a lot to be desired.

I see quite a few defensive liabilities already picked in the first round, if that's what we're going on here. Seems to me that most people have opted for offeensive strength in the first round, (with a couple of exceptions), so why is Love held to a different standard? I wanted a big man and offense with my first pick ... Kevin fit the bill perfectly.

What I think validates some of the other guys you're referring to is them being able to inflict their will on the other end of the court.

Love's a good shooter, but still has a ways to go int he post. He's going to score, but he's not dominant.

As a first round pick, I don't think his rebounding and shooting ability are enough to warrant the selection.

I completely disagree, but thanks for your input, SO ... I do value your opinion. (TP)

[indeedproceed]

I love Kevin Love as a player, but I don't know how I feel about him as a first round pick.

Really? He shoots FGs at .470, the tres at .417, FTs at .850, 20.2 PPG, 15.2 RBPG, 2.5 APG, and low turnover rate at around 2.1 ... I don't see any bigs left with that kind of dominance.

I think he's a solid pick, but I don't know how dominant he is. His rebounding is a bit inflated because nobody else is rebounding around him (not that he still wouldn't get 11 or 12 a game), and his defense leaves a lot to be desired.

I see quite a few defensive liabilities already picked in the first round, if that's what we're going on here. Seems to me that most people have opted for offeensive strength in the first round, (with a couple of exceptions), so why is Love held to a different standard? I wanted a big man and offense with my first pick ... Kevin fit the bill perfectly.

Well there is a difference between what you mean by defensive liabilities, and what you mean by dominance.

My own pick, Amar'e, is weak defensively, in that its the worst part of his game. But not everyone is 'weak defensively' equally. Amar'e for instance is a pretty poor defensive anchor, but he's not bad on his man, and a good shotblocker. In that regard he's more than an adequate defender, especially if you look at his performance on the offensive end as a counterweight.

But Kevin Love is not on the same defensive level as those guys. While his rebounding is top natch and his shooting makes him a versatile offensive piece, his size and athleticism limits how much he can bother shots. And, while Love is an offensive asset for certain, he's not a primary option. He's an opportunist.

Like others have said, and I said earlier, Kevin Love is a good player and a solid pick here..but he's not dominant at anything besides rebounding.

[StartOrien]

Quite a few guys still on the board that I'm surprised to still see available.

[indeedproceed]

Quite a few guys still on the board that I'm surprised to still see available.

Westbrook was the last All-NBA'er out there to my knowledge.

[Bahku]

I love Kevin Love as a player, but I don't know how I feel about him as a first round pick.

Really? He shoots FGs at .470, the tres at .417, FTs at .850, 20.2 PPG, 15.2 RBPG, 2.5 APG, and low turnover rate at around 2.1 ... I don't see any bigs left with that kind of dominance.

I think he's a solid pick, but I don't know how dominant he is. His rebounding is a bit inflated because nobody else is rebounding around him (not that he still wouldn't get 11 or 12 a game), and his defense leaves a lot to be desired.

I see quite a few defensive liabilities already picked in the first round, if that's what we're going on here. Seems to me that most people have opted for offeensive strength in the first round, (with a couple of exceptions), so why is Love held to a different standard? I wanted a big man and offense with my first pick ... Kevin fit the bill perfectly.

Well there is a difference between what you mean by defensive liabilities, and what you mean by dominance.

My own pick, Amar'e, is weak defensively, in that its the worst part of his game. But not everyone is 'weak defensively' equally. Amar'e for instance is a pretty poor defensive anchor, but he's not bad on his man, and a good shotblocker. In that regard he's more than an adequate defender, especially if you look at his performance on the offensive end as a counterweight.

But Kevin Love is not on the same defensive level as those guys. While his rebounding is top natch and his shooting makes him a versatile offensive piece, his size and athleticism limits how much he can bother shots. And, while Love is an offensive asset for certain, he's not a primary option. He's an opportunist.

Like others have said, and I said earlier, Kevin Love is a good player and a solid pick here..but he's not dominant at anything besides rebounding.

I guess I've been watching a different guy, cuz I just don't see how he's NOT "offensively dominant" ... 20.2 PPG, 15.2 RBPG, 2.5 APG, shoots a .470 FG rate, .417 for threes, (which in itself is a huge weapon in a "big"), FTs at .850, etc.. This guy had some extremely big games this year, where he was easily the dominating force on the court. Guess I just don't subscribe to the same standards as you folks. This kid is a great cornerstone piece, while not the "center" piece that an aging Tim Duncan or Paul Pierce is.

[jgod213]

so is there a time cap for this last pick or is it free to be "sat on" until tomorrow morning's festivities?

[StartOrien]

Quite a few guys still on the board that I'm surprised to still see available.

Westbrook was the last All-NBA'er out there to my knowledge.

In terms of actually getting an award, or in your opinion?

[wdleehi]

I love Kevin Love as a player, but I don't know how I feel about him as a first round pick.

Really? He shoots FGs at .470, the tres at .417, FTs at .850, 20.2 PPG, 15.2 RBPG, 2.5 APG, and low turnover rate at around 2.1 ... I don't see any bigs left with that kind of dominance.

I think he's a solid pick, but I don't know how dominant he is. His rebounding is a bit inflated because nobody else is rebounding around him (not that he still wouldn't get 11 or 12 a game), and his defense leaves a lot to be desired.

I see quite a few defensive liabilities already picked in the first round, if that's what we're going on here. Seems to me that most people have opted for offeensive strength in the first round, (with a couple of exceptions), so why is Love held to a different standard? I wanted a big man and offense with my first pick ... Kevin fit the bill perfectly.

Well there is a difference between what you mean by defensive liabilities, and what you mean by dominance.

My own pick, Amar'e, is weak defensively, in that its the worst part of his game. But not everyone is 'weak defensively' equally. Amar'e for instance is a pretty poor defensive anchor, but he's not bad on his man, and a good shotblocker. In that regard he's more than an adequate defender, especially if you look at his performance on the offensive end as a counterweight.

But Kevin Love is not on the same defensive level as those guys. While his rebounding is top natch and his shooting makes him a versatile offensive piece, his size and athleticism limits how much he can bother shots. And, while Love is an offensive asset for certain, he's not a primary option. He's an opportunist.

Like others have said, and I said earlier, Kevin Love is a good player and a solid pick here..but he's not dominant at anything besides rebounding.

I guess I've been watching a different guy, cuz I just don't see how he's NOT "offensively dominant" ... 20.2 PPG, 15.2 RBPG, 2.5 APG, shoots a .470 FG rate, .417 for threes, (which in itself is a huge weapon in a "big"), FTs at .850, etc.. This guy had some extremely big games this year, where he was easily the dominating force on the court. Guess I just don't subscribe to the same standards as you folks. This kid is a great cornerstone piece, while not the "center" piece that an aging Tim Duncan or Paul Pierce is.

No player is dominating when his team had the worst record in the NBA.  


He is on a team devoid of talent which means he loses more, but has more opportunities to pad his stats.  


Until he has more talent around him and maintains those numbers while winning, he is a solid pick.

[StartOrien]

Until he has more talent around him and maintains those numbers while winning, he is a solid pick.

Offensively, to me, he hasn't shown a skill-set that would make me think he'd ever become 'dominant'

[Gainesville Celtic]

KWhit, check your pm box.

so is there a time cap for this last pick or is it free to be "sat on" until tomorrow morning's festivities?

FWIW, I'm almost positive that Kwhit let it be known in the previous thread that he'd be late with his pick (since it's the last of the round)... IP gave his blessing if i'm not mistaken.