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Could Rondo and S & T of Davis land us Westbrook?
« on: May 27, 2011, 10:13:21 PM »

Offline gpap

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What do you think?

Re: Could Rondo and S & T of Davis land us Westbrook?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2011, 10:29:36 PM »

Offline Celtics18

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Not interested.  Rondo's better than Westbrook.
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Re: Could Rondo and S & T of Davis land us Westbrook?
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2011, 10:39:53 PM »

Offline gpap

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Not interested.  Rondo's better than Westbrook.

He is??? That's news to me.

Westbrook is far more talented and lit up Rondo like a Christmas tree when the Celts and OKC played early last season.

Re: Could Rondo and S & T of Davis land us Westbrook?
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2011, 10:58:46 PM »

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Is Westbrook a pure point guard? Does Westbrook make sound decisions? There's your answer.
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Re: Could Rondo and S & T of Davis land us Westbrook?
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2011, 11:13:35 PM »

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Why do people keep creating these Rondo for Westbrook threads?  ???

Re: Could Rondo and S & T of Davis land us Westbrook?
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2011, 11:23:39 PM »

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Rondo for Westbrook, Harden and a pick I might listen to........might

Re: Could Rondo and S & T of Davis land us Westbrook?
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2011, 11:23:53 PM »

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Not interested.  Rondo's better than Westbrook.

He is??? That's news to me.

Good...now you know.
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Re: Could Rondo and S & T of Davis land us Westbrook?
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2011, 11:49:14 PM »

Offline PortCelt

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Hypothetically no ... in terms of cap reality Nada. Salaries don't match up -- trade could not be sanctioned. OKC is over the cap and their incoming salaries are greater than 125% plus $100,000 of their outgoing salaries.

One of the reasons why they would never trade Westy is his rookie structured contract. He's owed a mere $11.7m over the next two seasons, and will be a potential max. contract when he moves to restricted after the 2012 season.

As we learned in the playoffs OKC is much better using Maynor at the point and Westy at SG. He is the consistent creator the Celtics desperately need, but RR is so good at putting the ball in the proper spots for his teammates. RR's contract does have trade value, but it must bring back a PG who can distribute in the same vernacular (CP3 or D. Will.). Not a good chemistry fit.

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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2011, 11:54:57 PM »

Offline pearljammer10

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Why would we want that anyway?

Re: Could Rondo and S & T of Davis land us Westbrook?
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2011, 12:22:26 AM »

Offline manl_lui

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Rondo for Westbrook, Harden and a pick I might listen to........might

i second that, cuz Rondo straight up for Westbrook is not worth it

Rondo is so much better in terms of passing and defense. And wth, why are we trading half of the thunder to the celtics?

Re: Could Rondo and S & T of Davis land us Westbrook?
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2011, 12:42:34 AM »

Offline Celtics18

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Not interested.  Rondo's better than Westbrook.

He is??? That's news to me.

Westbrook is far more talented and lit up Rondo like a Christmas tree when the Celts and OKC played early last season.

Just to satisfy my own curiosity I looked up the career head to head numbers between Rondo and Westbrook.

The Celtics are 4 and 2 against the Thunder in those games with the Celtics averaging 97.3 PPG to the Thunders 89.2 PPG.

Rondo: 10.8 PPG, 1.2 ORPG, 3.8 RPG, 9.5 APG, 2.7 SPG, 3.0 TOPG, .653 FG%, 32/49 total FGs,
.000 3%, 0/1 total 3s, .125 FT%, 1/8 total FTs, 33.2 MPG.

Westbrook: 19.8 PPG, 1.8 ORPG, 3.5 RPG, 5.5 APG, 1.3 SPG, 4.3 TOPG, .416 FG%, 42/101 Total FGs, .400 3%, 6/15 total 3s, .829 FT%, 29/35  total FTs, 33.2 MPG.

Interestingly, in only a six game sample those numbers seem to illustrate what each of these guys is as a player.  Westbrook's a player who is definitely a scorer.  He shoots a lot at a low percentage, gets to the line, and has a terrible assist to turnover ratio. Rondo, on the other hand, is not a high volume shooter or scorer, but shoots a high percentage, is a good set up guy with a good assist to turnover ratio.

Defensively, I like both players and actually think that Westbrook is behind only Rondo as a defensive and 50/50 ball playmaker among elite NBA point guards.

As you know, I prefer Rondo as a player.  I admire Westbrook's explosiveness all over the court, but Rondo's basketball intelligence, ball handling ability, creativity, and vision, coupled with his quickness and ability to get to the basketball definitely make him the hands down winner for me in a head to head comparison.  

Neither guy is a good outside shooter.  Westbrook does hit his free throws which we all know Rondo doesn't.  That's the one aspect of his game that still irks me.  Hopefully, he can improve that to at least the low to mid 70s.  If he can do that, he's the best point guard in the league for the next decade, in my opinion.    

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C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: Could Rondo and S & T of Davis land us Westbrook?
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2011, 01:41:22 AM »

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No thanks
Back to wanting Joe fired.

Re: Could Rondo and S & T of Davis land us Westbrook?
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2011, 02:13:53 AM »

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Westbrook was healthy all year. Rondo has plantar faceitis, a bad back, and bad wrist and a dislocated elbow. Yet Rondo averaged less turnovers per game, more assists per game, more steals per game, a higher FG% per game, a higher eFG% per game, ;ess personal fouls per game, a better defensive rating per game and was voted first team All Defense.


Yet we want to trade a Rondo on a bargain 5 year contract with another player for Westbrook who's going to be looking for a max contract this off season?

Not a smart move

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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2011, 05:01:26 AM »

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Not interested.  Rondo's better than Westbrook.

He is??? That's news to me.

Westbrook is far more talented and lit up Rondo like a Christmas tree when the Celts and OKC played early last season.

Playmaker for selfish pointguard?

Re: Could Rondo and S & T of Davis land us Westbrook?
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2011, 06:15:52 AM »

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yaiks! no way...