Trade idea Rajon for Ben Gordon

[slamtheking]

This thread is almost as insane as the upcoming "Rapture" ...   

Why is that?  with the C's out of the playoffs, what's the point of going on? 

[Chris]

While I agree that Rondo will not be traded for Gordon, I actually really like Gordon, and think he would be a great addition to this team.  He has really suffered playing on a team with no PG in Detroit, but if he has someone who can get him the ball in position to score, he is one of the most dangerous scorers in the NBA.  He also showed that he can be a decent defender when he wants to at times on Ray Allen a couple years ago.

So, while I obviously don't like the original idea here, I think Gordon is a very realistic trade target, and a guy who could fit in well with Rondo as a future building-block for this team.  

As for his contract, I would much rather be paying him $10 million per year than paying Jeff Green or Perk $8-10 million per year.  "Closers" like him are hard to come by in this league.

[BadNewsBarnes]

Is it April Fool's Day?

The only deal Rondo should be involved in would be one that lands Chris Paul.

[Finkelskyhook]

If we only still had Scalabrine to universalize every trade proposal.....

[Potapenko Boxout]

well done, CB. really tore that guy apart 

[EmilioBonilla]

I agree with most here about the only deal for Rondo should involve CP3, possibly Deron Williams, but even that is a little tougher to swallow. Ray for Gordon is another story and I think would be nice, but a bit unrealistic.

[FatjohnReturns]

I havnt been able to respond because of work limitations so here is my counter argument.

Rondo shoots free throws and 3ptrs worse than any starting point guard in the entire league. Could some of you Rondo supporters explain to my why a point guard doenst need to be able to shoot. When Rondos slows downs physically he will be worse than medicore and he will slow down. He is small and he goes crashing to the floor often. We saw already how his injuries slowed him down this year and he is young. Wait and see in another 4 yearrs.

Sorry Gordon is about the best you could get for Rondo. You people believing you are going to get Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook are living in fantasy land.

[PosImpos]

Rondo for Ben Gordon?

That's HILARIOUSLY bad.

[Roy H.]

Sorry Gordon is about the best you could get for Rondo.

Rondo was an all-star this year, and he's signed to a reasonable long-term contract.  He was second in the NBA in assists per game, and in the playoffs, he put up games of:

30 points, 7 assists
15 points, 11 rebounds, 21 assists
21 points, 12 assists
20 points, 6 rebounds, 12 assists

I think people are having a hard time accepting that an overpaid, undersized shooting guard with a bad contract and declining production is the best we could do.

[FatjohnReturns]

The kid cant shoot and he is assist totals are buffed by passing the ball to three future hall of fame players.

Danny will sell high Rondo will be traded this offseason or next.

[Roy H.]

Danny will sell high Rondo will be traded this offseason or next.

He very well might.  However, picking up a mediocre player on a bad contract isn't "selling high".

[FatjohnReturns]

Sorry Gordon is about the best you could get for Rondo.

Rondo was an all-star this year, and he's signed to a reasonable long-term contract.  He was second in the NBA in assists per game, and in the playoffs, he put up games of:

30 points, 7 assists
15 points, 11 rebounds, 21 assists
21 points, 12 assists
20 points, 6 rebounds, 12 assists

I think people are having a hard time accepting that an overpaid, undersized shooting guard with a bad contract and declining production is the best we could do.

Of course he is second in assists per game. Like I said he is passing to 3 future hof players and he dominates the basketball like no other.

He always has the ball in the open court. He has the ball more than any other Celtic player in the half court. If any other Celtic gets the ball its a catch and shoot or a one/two dribble move and shoot. Many professional basketball players could average 10 assists per game if they always have the ball.

[Change]

The kid cant shoot and he is assist totals are buffed by passing the ball to three future hall of fame players.

Danny will sell high Rondo will be traded this offseason or next.

Same old song. yes we know he can't shoot. But can Ben Gordon play the point? Does he have Rondo's court vision? What about his BBIQ? What's Ben Gordon defense like? Any intangibles? How big is his heart? Where does Ben Gordon put his NBA championship Ring? How many All-Star games he played in? Did he receive any All NBA consideration? Does he make his teammates better? How many NBA players publicly stated they want to play for Ben Gordon?

[Atzar]

I havnt been able to respond because of work limitations so here is my counter argument.

Rondo shoots free throws and 3ptrs worse than any starting point guard in the entire league. Could some of you Rondo supporters explain to my why a point guard doenst need to be able to shoot. When Rondos slows downs physically he will be worse than medicore and he will slow down. He is small and he goes crashing to the floor. We saw already how his injuries slowed him down this year and he is young. Wait and see in another 4 yearrs.

Sorry Gordon is about the best you could get for Rondo. You people believing you are going to get Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook are living in fantasy land.

So since we can't trade Rondo for Paul or Westbrook, we should instead trade him for a streaky chucker who provides nothing but points and can't defend either PG's or SG's?

Sorry, but no.  I guess I'll just struggle onward with my one-time champion, two-time All-Star, reigning 1st team All-Defense point guard then if that's the 'best I can do'.

For the record, I actually like Ben Gordon.  I think he's a dangerous offensive weapon who can be effective on a team that can hide his deficiencies.  Kuester is a garbage coach who has grossly mismanaged most of the Pistons lineup, and Ben Gordon has fallen victim to that ineptitude as much as anybody - based on talent and skillset, he should be in the same category as Jamal Crawford and Jason Terry.  But he's not in the same class as Rajon Rondo.

The extent to which Rondo's value fluctuates among fans is astonishing to me.  On one end, you have thread like this who grossly undervalue him.  Others insist that the Thunder would have to hand over Westbrook, Ibaka and picks to get him.  

[FatjohnReturns]

Danny will sell high Rondo will be traded this offseason or next.

He very well might.  However, picking up a mediocre player on a bad contract isn't "selling high".

Gordon isnt medicore. He only played 27 mpg on a bad team with a coach that the players wanted gone.I remember the Ben Gordon from the Chicago playoff series that seemed to hit every important shot.

These other GMS will not give up much for Rondo because his game is limited