2011 CB Historical Draft - Draft Thread

[indeedproceed]

No but seriously, if that's the way people are looking at their teams the roster construction makes more sense.

I think you and I had this particular debate earlier, but I'm not sure it makes sense in even that context.  I think Iverson's size and inefficiency hurt him as a 6th man in this exercise, even if you get rid of the attitude issues.

Sure, Iverson could score a lot, but a ton of guys could score a lot.  However, other guys could score more efficiently, and added better passing, rebounding, etc.

For instance, look at a guy who didn't get drafted:  1989 Dale Ellis.  He averaged 27.5 points, shot 50% from the field, and 47.8% from three.  Who fits better in this format -- even if it's NBA2K -- Iverson or Ellis?  Give me Ellis all-day, every day.

(Seriously?  Undrafted?  What's up with that?)

You've played the NBA2k games when Iverson was good, right?

Haha.  I wasn't talking about the real NBA2K that wildly exaggerates certain players.  Similarly, if we do an all-time football draft, I'm not taking Vick #1 overall because he crushed Madden that one year.  (However, if we're playing Techmo rules, give me Bo Jackson and Lawrence Taylor, and I'll play with 51 scrubs.)

Off-topic, but how hilarious is 2k's interpretation of Kobe?

The worst was 2007's Tracy McGrady.

[wdleehi]

(However, if we're playing Techmo rules, give me Bo Jackson and Lawrence Taylor, and I'll play with 51 scrubs.)

2 things:

1) You callin Pepper Johnson a scrub?

2) Derrick Thomas and Christian Okoye FTW.

Bo and LT welcome the challenge.

Gannon "the Cannon" used to kill my brother.  The only QB that will kill my brother. 

[StartOrien]

The worst was 2007's Tracy McGrady.

I forget the year, I wanna say 2005, but EA decided to include Peyton Manning's audibles to a pretty comical level.

[mgent]

Here's where I can give Iverson the benefit of the doubt:  When he was benched in Detroit, he was the better overall player.  No matter how fit plays into it, NO player is gonna respond well to coming off the bench behind a player he's better than.

AI has pretty much always been the best player on his team, so his ego is expected.  While I would obviously lean towards him not getting along with a team full of players better than him, I wouldn't say that's fact.

What does the guard lineup look like?  (Boston is it?)

[StartOrien]

WHICH ONE OF YOUR JERKS DELETED OTART?!?!

[mgent]

No but seriously, if that's the way people are looking at their teams the roster construction makes more sense.

I think you and I had this particular debate earlier, but I'm not sure it makes sense in even that context.  I think Iverson's size and inefficiency hurt him as a 6th man in this exercise, even if you get rid of the attitude issues.

Sure, Iverson could score a lot, but a ton of guys could score a lot.  However, other guys could score more efficiently, and added better passing, rebounding, etc.

For instance, look at a guy who didn't get drafted:  1989 Dale Ellis.  He averaged 27.5 points, shot 50% from the field, and 47.8% from three.  Who fits better in this format -- even if it's NBA2K -- Iverson or Ellis?  Give me Ellis all-day, every day.

(Seriously?  Undrafted?  What's up with that?)

You've played the NBA2k games when Iverson was good, right?

Haha.  I wasn't talking about the real NBA2K that wildly exaggerates certain players.  Similarly, if we do an all-time football draft, I'm not taking Vick #1 overall because he crushed Madden that one year.  (However, if we're playing Techmo rules, give me Bo Jackson and Lawrence Taylor, and I'll play with 51 scrubs.)

Off-topic, but how hilarious is 2k's interpretation of Kobe?

The worst was 2007's Tracy McGrady.

What's the difference?  All they did was run the court in 2 seconds and throw down a reverse dunk on 5 guys.

[Roy H.]

So, I'm not a panelist, but I have a question for everybody:

* If you could take one of your draft picks back, which one would it be, and who would you have replaced that player with?

[Roy H.]

WHICH ONE OF YOUR JERKS DELETED OTART?!?!

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?action=profile;u=7713

He's still alive and kicking, I think.

[StartOrien]

WHICH ONE OF YOUR JERKS DELETED OTART?!?!

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?action=profile;u=7713

He's still alive and kicking, I think.

phewf. i - A complete stranger who I've learned to become friends with because of our shared interest -must've missed the capitaliztion

[Rondo2287]

So, I'm not a panelist, but I have a question for everybody:

* If you could take one of your draft picks back, which one would it be, and who would you have replaced that player with?

I would redo my coach pick, I completely forgot about popovich when I took Sloan

[StartOrien]

Anyways, I made some pretty great points about Nash & Barkley. Good job, me.

[StartOrien]

So, I'm not a panelist, but I have a question for everybody:

* If you could take one of your draft picks back, which one would it be, and who would you have replaced that player with?

1. If it was for winning this game, I'd say I'd take pack my Zo pick. Seems as if his abilities to play a very effective role as a 3rd big have been somewhat discounted.

2. For me, probably Shawn Kemp. I picked him because he was the best value and I thought for sure I could move him.

[33-00-32]

So, I'm not a panelist, but I have a question for everybody:

* If you could take one of your draft picks back, which one would it be, and who would you have replaced that player with?

You know mine already is Iverson and as it was on the list I gave you my binkie would have been Chris Mullin...big fan.

[mgent]

Here's where I can give Iverson the benefit of the doubt:  When he was benched in Detroit, he was the better overall player.  No matter how fit plays into it, NO player is gonna respond well to coming off the bench behind a player he's better than.

AI has pretty much always been the best player on his team, so his ego is expected.  While I would obviously lean towards him not getting along with a team full of players better than him, I wouldn't say that's fact.

What does the guard lineup look like?  (Boston is it?)

Well I checked Boston's team profile and it turns out Allen isn't even gonna be allowed any minutes  .  So I guess I wasted the last 15 minutes of my life reading this 4 page argument and responding myself.

My advice would be to tell him he's not welcome in the building during the game otherwise you're gonna end up with a burnt down locker-room and a dump in Vinsanity's shoes.

[33-00-32]

Here's where I can give Iverson the benefit of the doubt:  When he was benched in Detroit, he was the better overall player.  No matter how fit plays into it, NO player is gonna respond well to coming off the bench behind a player he's better than.

AI has pretty much always been the best player on his team, so his ego is expected.  While I would obviously lean towards him not getting along with a team full of players better than him, I wouldn't say that's fact.

What does the guard lineup look like?  (Boston is it?)

Well I checked Boston's team profile and it turns out Allen isn't even gonna be allowed any minutes  .  So I guess I wasted the last 15 minutes of my life reading this 4 page argument and responding myself.

My advice would be to tell him he's not welcome in the building during the game otherwise you're gonna end up with a burnt down locker-room and a dump in Vinsanity's shoes.

Hahahaha, I'm dying here with that Vinsanity's shoes part, hahahaha!!