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« Reply #750 on: May 25, 2011, 04:27:03 PM »

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I think he is in a similar class with Wade, Great scorer and when he gets hot shooting you had better watch out.  But career Dwade is a .291 3pt shooter.  Again Great scorer, but not the best shooter

I PICKED HIM THE YEAR HE SHOT .317 FROM DISTANCE, OK?!?!

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« Reply #751 on: May 25, 2011, 04:28:07 PM »

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For the sake of my sanity, stop beating the Gary Payton horse!!

The guy is a heckuva talent as illustrated by his being drafted in Round 3.  Let's leave it at that for now!

lol..I think I lost my sanity a while ago ;D.

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« Reply #752 on: May 25, 2011, 04:28:07 PM »

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In 2000-2001 GP shot the tres at .375 ... that's not too shabby, (Reggie Miller and Ray Allen each had five seasons when they shot the three at a worse percentage, and .317 for his career is far from terrible. I think it's safe to say he could shoot the ball.
That was his best single season ever, and .317 is actually closer to terrible than decent. Especially when you shoot nearly three a game.

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« Reply #753 on: May 25, 2011, 04:28:33 PM »

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I am really struggling with my pick tomorrow.  I'm just not sure which way to go and it is really bothering me. 

Join the club. But still plenty of caviar left on the plate. ;)
I hear that, one of the big problems I'm having is the B.P.A. is at a position I already have filled, and I can't really justify a backup at this stage.  If I go guard, I have like 5 choices, all of which I can easily justify, and all of which bring different things.  Just really annoying.
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« Reply #754 on: May 25, 2011, 04:30:32 PM »

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So can you show me stats that prove otherwise as far as DWest?

He's a career 37% shooter from 3pt land?

and .317 for his career is far from terrible. I think it's safe to say he could shoot the ball.

It's pretty bad. If he shot 31.7% from long range in one season today, he would be the 36th best 3pt shooting point guard, and 126th best 3pt shooting player, among those who qualified (shot more than 55 total 3PT attempts)

Look, I feel like we're really getting stuck on a minor point here. Gary Payton, great point guard, great defender, great pick.

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

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« Reply #755 on: May 25, 2011, 04:31:39 PM »

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I am really struggling with my pick tomorrow.  I'm just not sure which way to go and it is really bothering me. 

I would trade it.  Probably to Rondo2287
I might take you up on that.
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« Reply #756 on: May 25, 2011, 04:32:29 PM »

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In 2000-2001 GP shot the tres at .375 ... that's not too shabby, (Reggie Miller and Ray Allen each had five seasons when they shot the three at a worse percentage, and .317 for his career is far from terrible. I think it's safe to say he could shoot the ball.
That was his best single season ever, and .317 is actually closer to terrible than decent. Especially when you shoot nearly three a game.

Fafnir - No - it wasn't his single best season, ever.

I thought for the purposes of the Draft here, we get to pick a season, only. And I'm leaning towards 95-96 or 97-98.

He didn't shoot 317% in those seasons.


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« Reply #758 on: May 25, 2011, 04:34:29 PM »

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Thoughts on the Hakeem/Cowens/Pippen frontline?

Absolutely love it. 

I was hoping to grab Cowens next to play the PF position too.
Yup

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« Reply #759 on: May 25, 2011, 04:34:56 PM »

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In 2000-2001 GP shot the tres at .375 ... that's not too shabby, (Reggie Miller and Ray Allen each had five seasons when they shot the three at a worse percentage, and .317 for his career is far from terrible. I think it's safe to say he could shoot the ball.
That was his best single season ever, and .317 is actually closer to terrible than decent. Especially when you shoot nearly three a game.

No - it wasn't his single best season, ever.

I thought for the purposes of the Draft here, we get to pick a season, only. And I'm leaning towards 95-96 or 97-98.

He didn't shoot 317% in those seasons.

For me when I see these two guys i don't see much of a difference alright?  Can we just leave it at that?





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« Reply #760 on: May 25, 2011, 04:36:16 PM »

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BTW,

Very pleased to team an "in prime" Tiny Archibald up with Larry (and the Admiral).  Tiny did just fine with Larry at the end of his career.  The 30 point 11 assist Tiny oughtta be just fine! 

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« Reply #761 on: May 25, 2011, 04:37:08 PM »

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For the life of me, I can't figure out who 20 is?

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« Reply #762 on: May 25, 2011, 04:38:49 PM »

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For the life of me, I can't figure out who 20 is?

Dan, "Disaster," Dickau haha
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« Reply #763 on: May 25, 2011, 04:39:53 PM »

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In 2000-2001 GP shot the tres at .375 ... that's not too shabby, (Reggie Miller and Ray Allen each had five seasons when they shot the three at a worse percentage, and .317 for his career is far from terrible. I think it's safe to say he could shoot the ball.
That was his best single season ever, and .317 is actually closer to terrible than decent. Especially when you shoot nearly three a game.

Fafnir - No - it wasn't his single best season, ever.
I thought for the purposes of the Draft here, we get to pick a season, only. And I'm leaning towards 95-96 or 97-98.

He didn't shoot 317% in those seasons.
It was his best three point shooting season, which is what we were are talking about.

The two seasons you're talking about are .328 and .338 which of course is very different from shooting from .317. So different that it adds up to 3 more threes one year and 8 more made threes the other. (299 attempts in 95-96 and 397 in 97-98)

Talk about cognative dissonance if you're really trying to talk yourself in circles that Gary Payton is a shooter.

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« Reply #764 on: May 25, 2011, 04:40:21 PM »

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For the life of me, I can't figure out who 20 is?

Dan, "Disaster," Dickau haha

And that's why I couldn't figure it out :)