Secret Rondo Trade Conspiracy Thread...

[kozlodoev]

I can see Rondo being moved for a star player.


I just don't think there are many young stars out there to get.

is chris paul a star player , he seems attainable

If people think Rondo hasn't progressed in a satisfactory manner this season, why would they want Paul? He has actually _regressed_ steadily over the last 2 seasons.

[JSD]

I can see Rondo being moved for a star player.


I just don't think there are many young stars out there to get.

is chris paul a star player , he seems attainable

If people think Rondo hasn't progressed in a satisfactory manner this season, why would they want Paul? He has actually _regressed_ steadily over the last 2 seasons.

Great handles, distribution and can nail an open jumper.

[twinbree]

I think Rondo's value might have dropped after this season. His stock has fallen with me at the very least. Since his rookie season he's jumped leaps and bounds in his development every year, but that didn't happen this season. He came in with more confidence, but he didn't become a better scorer, passer, or shooter. I think he got a lot of credit for his impressive assist totals early, but IMO that was from overpassing and playing with 4 great finishers. Right now I just hope he hasn't peaked and that injuries really were what slowed him down at the end of the season because he's been real unimpressive the last few months. I'm comfortable with him in his role as of now, but I'm scared of a future where he'll have to be more of a scorer.

It's hard to improve leaps and bounds when you're having an injury-plagued season.

And I disagree I think Rondo improved his shooting this season. For one he was a lot more willing to take that 16-23 foot jumper which was a big part of the problem with his shooting. And secondly he was hitting it at a very good clip. Both are significant improvements IMO.

On topic, I doubt Rondo is being traded. I think his reasonable contract combined with him being the youngest member of an aging core makes him difficult to trade. He's a valuable trade chip but at the same time a way to attract players to Boston so it's a tough call. Besides if Rondo is so overvalued as you think why would teams wanting a "star PG" trade for him?

[BballTim]

I think Rondo's value might have dropped after this season. His stock has fallen with me at the very least. Since his rookie season he's jumped leaps and bounds in his development every year, but that didn't happen this season. He came in with more confidence, but he didn't become a better scorer, passer, or shooter. I think he got a lot of credit for his impressive assist totals early, but IMO that was from overpassing and playing with 4 great finishers. Right now I just hope he hasn't peaked and that injuries really were what slowed him down at the end of the season because he's been real unimpressive the last few months. I'm comfortable with him in his role as of now, but I'm scared of a future where he'll have to be more of a scorer.

  People are *really* undervaluing his passing. This isn't 2008, and if Rondo was playing with such great finishers we'd still be playing. Before his injuries he was leading the league in assists by a wide margin. That seems to be a reasonable improvement form the previous year.

[winsomme]

I think Rondo's value might have dropped after this season. His stock has fallen with me at the very least. Since his rookie season he's jumped leaps and bounds in his development every year, but that didn't happen this season. He came in with more confidence, but he didn't become a better scorer, passer, or shooter. I think he got a lot of credit for his impressive assist totals early, but IMO that was from overpassing and playing with 4 great finishers. Right now I just hope he hasn't peaked and that injuries really were what slowed him down at the end of the season because he's been real unimpressive the last few months. I'm comfortable with him in his role as of now, but I'm scared of a future where he'll have to be more of a scorer.

  People are *really* undervaluing his passing. This isn't 2008, and if Rondo was playing with such great finishers we'd still be playing. Before his injuries he was leading the league in assists by a wide margin. That seems to be a reasonable improvement form the previous year.

more importantly if Rondo was playing (healthily) with the finishers we have now we could easily still be playing.

I agree about his passing. it is by far the most important skill for a PG and Rondo is an elite passer.

If you're going to give me a player who can pass as well as Rondo, I'll listen. but I don't want to hear about any PGs who are lesser passers.

the fact is, around the league, I think people undervalue Rondo based on his shooting woes. So I really don't see Danny getting equal value for him...which is fine by me based on his passing, defense, and intangibles...

we do need a starting center however...no idea how Danny is gonna make that happen.

[footey]

Maybe GS trades Monte Ellis for Rondo.  Ellis and Curry are somewhat redundant, Rondo would help their offensive become more team oriented.  Ellis would help us with scoring at the PG spot, which we are in dire need of. 

[Evantime34]

I think Rondo's value might have dropped after this season. His stock has fallen with me at the very least. Since his rookie season he's jumped leaps and bounds in his development every year, but that didn't happen this season. He came in with more confidence, but he didn't become a better scorer, passer, or shooter. I think he got a lot of credit for his impressive assist totals early, but IMO that was from overpassing and playing with 4 great finishers. Right now I just hope he hasn't peaked and that injuries really were what slowed him down at the end of the season because he's been real unimpressive the last few months. I'm comfortable with him in his role as of now, but I'm scared of a future where he'll have to be more of a scorer.

It's hard to improve leaps and bounds when you're having an injury-plagued season.

And I disagree I think Rondo improved his shooting this season. For one he was a lot more willing to take that 16-23 foot jumper which was a big part of the problem with his shooting. And secondly he was hitting it at a very good clip. Both are significant improvements IMO.

On topic, I doubt Rondo is being traded. I think his reasonable contract combined with him being the youngest member of an aging core makes him difficult to trade. He's a valuable trade chip but at the same time a way to attract players to Boston so it's a tough call. Besides if Rondo is so overvalued as you think why would teams wanting a "star PG" trade for him?

Agreed on his jumper improving. I think the beginning of the season showed what he could do healthy, then he got hurt and his numbers dipped.

However, him being young and with a reasonable contract only increases his value. Those two pluses allow him to be traded for someone who better than him but is older with less years on his contract left. Paul is a perfect example.

As for Dwight I think the only way we'd be able to trade for Dwight is if we took on some of the Magics really bad contracts like Turk or Arenas. In order to do this we would need to trade Rondo and KG (if he was reitring). In other words it's probably not happening.

I don't do Monte Ellis for Rondo, they would have to give us more than just Ellis for Rondo.

[winsomme]

Maybe GS trades Monte Ellis for Rondo.  Ellis and Curry are somewhat redundant, Rondo would help their offensive become more team oriented.  Ellis would help us with scoring at the PG spot, which we are in dire need of. 

this is the exact kind of trade i'm not interested in. Ellis is a terrific player, but he is not a PG.

[kozlodoev]

Ellis would help us with scoring at the PG spot, which we are in dire need of. 

No, we aren't, actually.

[European NBA fan]

The more I think about it, the more I think Rondo is a goner... I think Ainge knows what Rondo is, an above average point guard who is regarded as a Top PG because of his situation. I think he is going to be heavily shopped this off season.

When the Big 3, or part of the Big 3 is gone, Rondo is going to become devalued quickly. He would be tougher to trade and you might not want to live with him, his attitude, and his up and down play for the future. Rondo won't be the same guy without those guys to inflate his assist totals and open up the floor for him.

I think Rondo is OVERvalued at this point and Ainge has a real shot to cash in on that and extend the life of this team's viability.

I can really see a Rondo for Conley/Marc Gasol type deal where a small market team wants a star PG and doesn't want to pay a guy who is up for a contract... I am just throwing that out there, but I could also seeing them trying to package him with picks and another player to try to land CP3 or Deron.

I like Rondo, but Ainge is a business man... I think he sees Rondo as his one monster chip, and I think he looks to cash it in.

If Rivers stays, I'm quite certain that Rondo stays.

I can't believe you write "overvalued". He has a really cheap contract for an all star point guard, who was playing as an MVP candidate before his injuries. If he was a free agent he would be looking at a huge raise.

Remember that Conley has a contract that is not much cheaper than Rondo's - he got a 5 years extension for 40M $.

[Assassin70]

I subscribe to this, rickyfan3.0... I think Rondo is shopped hard this offseason for all the reasons you mentioned in the OP.

However, I don't think there's  anyway Memphis does that deal. What about:

Rondo, Green, Baby and the Clipper 1st rounder for Chris Paul and Ariza?

hmmm  

[kozlodoev]

I can see Rondo being moved for a star player.


I just don't think there are many young stars out there to get.

is chris paul a star player , he seems attainable

If people think Rondo hasn't progressed in a satisfactory manner this season, why would they want Paul? He has actually _regressed_ steadily over the last 2 seasons.

Great handles, distribution and can nail an open jumper.

That doesn't answer the actual question posed.

[wdleehi]

I can see Rondo being moved for a star player.


I just don't think there are many young stars out there to get.

is chris paul a star player , he seems attainable

If people think Rondo hasn't progressed in a satisfactory manner this season, why would they want Paul? He has actually _regressed_ steadily over the last 2 seasons.

Great handles, distribution and can nail an open jumper.

That doesn't answer the actual question posed.

1)  A regressed Paul was still better then an improved Rondo

2)  Regressed Paul disappeared in the playoffs and we saw best pg in the NBA Paul.

[BballTim]

I can see Rondo being moved for a star player.


I just don't think there are many young stars out there to get.

is chris paul a star player , he seems attainable

If people think Rondo hasn't progressed in a satisfactory manner this season, why would they want Paul? He has actually _regressed_ steadily over the last 2 seasons.

Great handles, distribution and can nail an open jumper.

That doesn't answer the actual question posed.

1)  A regressed Paul was still better then an improved Rondo

2)  Regressed Paul disappeared in the playoffs and we saw best pg in the NBA Paul.

  CP3 "disappeared" in the playoffs against Denver two years ago.

[wdleehi]

I can see Rondo being moved for a star player.


I just don't think there are many young stars out there to get.

is chris paul a star player , he seems attainable

If people think Rondo hasn't progressed in a satisfactory manner this season, why would they want Paul? He has actually _regressed_ steadily over the last 2 seasons.

Great handles, distribution and can nail an open jumper.

That doesn't answer the actual question posed.

1)  A regressed Paul was still better then an improved Rondo

2)  Regressed Paul disappeared in the playoffs and we saw best pg in the NBA Paul.

  CP3 "disappeared" in the playoffs against Denver two years ago.

And last year the Lakers neutralized Rondo.