Danny really is a snake oil salesman - Sometimes

[kozlodoev]

Money saved from Green's contract partly goes to add another player ?  a la, Dalembert ?

It makes no difference under the cap rules, and the management hasn't really shirked from forking over the cash to get talent when we needed it, so I don't think this is a huge consideration.

[xmuscularghandix]

Unreal. He just said if Avery Bradley was in the draft this year he would be a top 5 pick. Man is he a BS artist.

Yea? This draft sucks... Avery Bradley is an above average defensive player RIGHT NOW, if he was on The Clippers posting numbers everyone would call DA an idiot for passing on him.

[GreenNote]

Unreal. He just said if Avery Bradley was in the draft this year he would be a top 5 pick. Man is he a BS artist.

But not a very good one

Heck, Shelden Williams was a number 5 pick

[Chris]

Heinsohn said it first and they're all repeating it. Still doesn't make it necessarily true.

I really don't think Jackie McMullen uses Tommy's rantings as a source.

As for Dalembert, please no!  He blocks shots, but he is one of the worst "system defenders" in the league.  

[theswitch]

Out of curiosity, how much would Yao go for this offseason?

[Chris]

Personally I fully expect some 2nd rounders or undrafted guys like Taylor Battle to be significantly better than Avery.

Absolutely.  I think this is going to be one of those drafts where there are more quality players picked 20 and lower than there are in the lottery.  It's just so weak at the top, that the teams that need a lot of help are going to reach big time for high risk, high reward guys.

On the other hand, this draft is actually relatively strong later in the draft, because a lot of second and third tier guys came out this year, knowing they had a chance to go higher than they normally would in a stronger draft. 

[kozlodoev]

As for Dalembert, please no!  He blocks shots, but he is one of the worst "system defenders" in the league.  

Well, he's the only potential starter that can be had in free agency. Everyone else we can sign is either filler or a career backup.

[bbd24]

Money saved from Green's contract partly goes to add another player ?  a la, Dalembert ?

It makes no difference under the cap rules, and the management hasn't really shirked from forking over the cash to get talent when we needed it, so I don't think this is a huge consideration.

But are these cap rules set ?  I thought the NBA/PA still had to get a new deal done ?  Would it conceivably go up ?  Or down ?

Who knows.  Nothing is locked in though, right ?  Or is there another year left ?

[Chris]

As for Dalembert, please no!  He blocks shots, but he is one of the worst "system defenders" in the league.  

Well, he's the only potential starter that can be had in free agency. Everyone else we can sign is either filler or a career backup.

Eh, I would prefer Nazr Mohammed, Kwame Brown, Nenad Krstic, and many other guys over Dalembert.  He is a waste of money.  

You are right that the pickings are slim though, so the C's will have to get inventive this summer to fill that hole.  But Dalembert is not the answer.

[Eja117]

Personally I fully expect some 2nd rounders or undrafted guys like Taylor Battle to be significantly better than Avery.

Absolutely.  I think this is going to be one of those drafts where there are more quality players picked 20 and lower than there are in the lottery.  It's just so weak at the top, that the teams that need a lot of help are going to reach big time for high risk, high reward guys.

On the other hand, this draft is actually relatively strong later in the draft, because a lot of second and third tier guys came out this year, knowing they had a chance to go higher than they normally would in a stronger draft. 

Well yeah, but Avery Bradley doesn't have potential. He didn't when he averaged 11.6 ppg in college and he doesn't have any now. He's Joe Forte without the college experience

[bbd24]

Personally I fully expect some 2nd rounders or undrafted guys like Taylor Battle to be significantly better than Avery.

Absolutely.  I think this is going to be one of those drafts where there are more quality players picked 20 and lower than there are in the lottery.  It's just so weak at the top, that the teams that need a lot of help are going to reach big time for high risk, high reward guys.

On the other hand, this draft is actually relatively strong later in the draft, because a lot of second and third tier guys came out this year, knowing they had a chance to go higher than they normally would in a stronger draft. 

Well yeah, but Avery Bradley doesn't have potential. He didn't when he averaged 11.6 ppg in college and he doesn't have any now. He's Joe Forte without the college experience

Except Joe Forte wasn't 19 when he came out.  Bradley is still only 20.

[xmuscularghandix]

Personally I fully expect some 2nd rounders or undrafted guys like Taylor Battle to be significantly better than Avery.

Absolutely.  I think this is going to be one of those drafts where there are more quality players picked 20 and lower than there are in the lottery.  It's just so weak at the top, that the teams that need a lot of help are going to reach big time for high risk, high reward guys.

On the other hand, this draft is actually relatively strong later in the draft, because a lot of second and third tier guys came out this year, knowing they had a chance to go higher than they normally would in a stronger draft. 

Well yeah, but Avery Bradley doesn't have potential. He didn't when he averaged 11.6 ppg in college and he doesn't have any now. He's Joe Forte without the college experience

Avery Bradley doesn't have potential? What are you talking about... did you scout him or something...

The #1 ranked high school prospect who can be an All-Defensive guy, decent jumper, excellent athleticism... but he can't get any better? At 20 years old with no real chance of playing time he's reached his ceiling.
 

[kozlodoev]

As for Dalembert, please no!  He blocks shots, but he is one of the worst "system defenders" in the league.  

Well, he's the only potential starter that can be had in free agency. Everyone else we can sign is either filler or a career backup.

Eh, I would prefer Nazr Mohammed, Kwame Brown, Nenad Krstic, and many other guys over Dalembert.  He is a waste of money.  

You are right that the pickings are slim though, so the C's will have to get inventive this summer to fill that hole.  But Dalembert is not the answer.

I wouldn't trust any of these guys to be the full-time starter (30 minutes, 80 games). Mohammed, while seasoned, is horrible. He's a 10 mpg guy on a good team. Brown is much like Mohammend, except less seasoned. Krstic is what he is -- he can be serviceable, but he's not what we need in the starter role.

In the end, however, we'll have whatever is to be had with the MLE, I guess, since we don't really have any assets to speak of.

[lepoooo]

I'll be extremely disappointed in Danny if he just lets Jeff go, though.

I comes down to how much you pay him.  In my opinion, Green isn't worth much more than the MLE.  He's a mediocre scorer, a mediocre defender, and a poor rebounder and passer.  Guys like that aren't worth the $10 million per season he reportedly asked for.

Guys like the one you're describing shouldn't even be in the NBA. Overreact much?

In what area am I overreacting?

His scoring is very average, especially on a per-minute basis.  14 points per 36 minutes just isn't anything better than mediocre / average.  He's also a pretty average shooter.

His defense is average (mediocre) at best.

His rebounding is poor.  His passing is poor.  Obviously, that's relative to his peers, but no, I don't think I'm overreacting at all.

15 points / game alongside Westbrook & Durant, = mediocre/average offense player?

A 6'9 forward who can post up and bang up the smaller SF in the paint = don't sign the guy for less than 6 millions and see what happens?

You must be kidding, or you need to cool off from your PO emotions. No Jeff Green did not win the serie against Miami for the C's, but he did not make them loose either. Poor execution, old legs and a great Miami team did.

[clover]

Any comments pertaining to Glen Davis?

Yes. He said there is a decent chance Glen could be back. Also was asked about his weight, etc. and he said that Glen has a weight clause in his contract or something like that and that Glen did very well in terms of that clause. I find that hard to believe just looking at the guy.

Just looking at the guy, he doesn't look like he gained much weight as the season progressed. Just because Heinsohn blabbered about something on TV doesn't make it true.

Jackie McMullen also wrote that he gained 15 or so pounds and Bob Ryan said the same exact thing on the radio the other day. Maybe they are all wrong.

No, you can see he gained weight through the year.  The deal is that Danny wants to talk up someone he'd like to S&T away, talk down (in a nice way) someone he'd like to sign.