Danny really is a snake oil salesman - Sometimes

[Roy H.]

I'll be extremely disappointed in Danny if he just lets Jeff go, though.

I comes down to how much you pay him.  In my opinion, Green isn't worth much more than the MLE.  He's a mediocre scorer, a mediocre defender, and a poor rebounder and passer.  Guys like that aren't worth the $10 million per season he reportedly asked for.

[BballTim]

The thing is, no matter what Danny says, there will be a large number of people who agree with him, simply because he brought us a title.

I liked Danny as a player, and I like him as a GM.  He's not infallible, though; since the summer of 2008, he's made plenty of mistakes.

  I think he makes some mistakes, but I wonder how much blame he deserves for others. Shaq, for instance. He didn't personally examine Shaq or interpret any MRIs or the like. He went on the advice of the medical staff. Is he to blame if Shaq didn't come back? People here can claim that they "knew" that he would never come back, but it's not like anyone who says that had any actual knowledge of Shaq's medical situation to base that on.

[PosImpos]

Unreal. He just said if Avery Bradley was in the draft this year he would be a top 5 pick. Man is he a BS artist.

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with that.  If he had spent another year developing in college (or the NBA, heh), he likely would have showcased even more skills than he did last year.  He's healthy now, so he wouldn't slide as much in the draft as he did last year.  Also, this year's draft is a lot weaker.  It wouldn't shock me if Bradley at least went in the top 10.

Still, you could say something similar about a lot of guys who were picked outside of the top 5 last year (Paul George, for example, would be picked very high this year).

[jdpapa3]

  He's a mediocre scorer, a mediocre defender, and a poor rebounder and passer.  Guys like that aren't worth the $10 million per season he reportedly asked for.

It'd be ideal to get him on the QO. He just did a pretty good job on Lebron. I have trouble calling him a mediocre defender after seeing that.

[PosImpos]

I'll be extremely disappointed in Danny if he just lets Jeff go, though.

I comes down to how much you pay him.  In my opinion, Green isn't worth much more than the MLE.  He's a mediocre scorer, a mediocre defender, and a poor rebounder and passer.  Guys like that aren't worth the $10 million per season he reportedly asked for.

That may be true, but the trade will truly have been an almost completely waste if Jeff just walks in free agency for nothing.  At the very least, you have to try to sign and trade him for something.

I also think he's shown an ability to be much more than a mediocre scorer, and he can develop as a passer / defender.  He may never be a great rebounder, but that's not a huge problem as long as he stays on the wing instead of being placed at the 4.  I think Jeff Green can definitely be a legitimate starting SF in this league.  Judging him too harshly for how he performed while playing drastically reduced minutes in a very different role than he had ever been in for the last half of the season is unfair, in my opinion.

[Who]

Unreal. He just said if Avery Bradley was in the draft this year he would be a top 5 pick. Man is he a BS artist.

That is as much criticism of this year's draft crop as it is praise for Avery Bradley.

It's a possibility ... heck, Kemba Walker might go top 5 ... Look at all of those other projected lottery picks, it's hard not to see Bradley in the lottery with another year of college ball under his belt.

[Roy H.]

I'll be extremely disappointed in Danny if he just lets Jeff go, though.

I comes down to how much you pay him.  In my opinion, Green isn't worth much more than the MLE.  He's a mediocre scorer, a mediocre defender, and a poor rebounder and passer.  Guys like that aren't worth the $10 million per season he reportedly asked for.

That may be true, but the trade will truly have been an almost completely waste if Jeff just walks in free agency for nothing.  At the very least, you have to try to sign and trade him for something.

I'd rather have a bad trade on Danny's resume' than have him compound the mistake by signing Green to a bad deal.  As for a sign-and-trade, yeah, if he signs elsewhere we'll at least get a trade exception out of it, in all likelihood.

[Chris]

I'll be extremely disappointed in Danny if he just lets Jeff go, though.

I comes down to how much you pay him.  In my opinion, Green isn't worth much more than the MLE.  He's a mediocre scorer, a mediocre defender, and a poor rebounder and passer.  Guys like that aren't worth the $10 million per season he reportedly asked for.

Agreed.  Which is why I think he plays for the QO this year.  He is in a position similar to Davis was a couple years ago.  He is probably worth something just above the MLE right now, however, he could possibly get more if he plays well next season.  And, since the C's would likely match an MLE type deal, teams know that they would need to overpay to lure him away, and he just is not good enough to overpay for right now.

So, I think he signs the QO, and then tries to rebuild his value next year.  

[Fafnir]

  He's a mediocre scorer, a mediocre defender, and a poor rebounder and passer.  Guys like that aren't worth the $10 million per season he reportedly asked for.

It'd be ideal to get him on the QO. He just did a pretty good job on Lebron. I have trouble calling him a mediocre defender after seeing that.

He has the tools to be much better than what he's shown in green certainly.

I'd love to get him at the QO to give us maximum flexibility, though how realistic that is depends on whatever the CBA ends up being.

[Roy H.]

  He's a mediocre scorer, a mediocre defender, and a poor rebounder and passer.  Guys like that aren't worth the $10 million per season he reportedly asked for.

It'd be ideal to get him on the QO. He just did a pretty good job on Lebron. I have trouble calling him a mediocre defender after seeing that.

You're going to base your evaluation of him as a defender on a few minutes against Lebron?  What about the rest of the season, when he more often than not looked downright poor on defense?

I thought I was being charitable by calling him mediocre.

[PosImpos]

I'll be extremely disappointed in Danny if he just lets Jeff go, though.

I comes down to how much you pay him.  In my opinion, Green isn't worth much more than the MLE.  He's a mediocre scorer, a mediocre defender, and a poor rebounder and passer.  Guys like that aren't worth the $10 million per season he reportedly asked for.

That may be true, but the trade will truly have been an almost completely waste if Jeff just walks in free agency for nothing.  At the very least, you have to try to sign and trade him for something.

I'd rather have a bad trade on Danny's resume' than have him compound the mistake by signing Green to a bad deal.  As for a sign-and-trade, yeah, if he signs elsewhere we'll at least get a trade exception out of it, in all likelihood.

I agree that $10 million would be too much for Green, but I imagine that's not a realistic number given the upcoming CBA.  I think Green can give us a lot of that "athleticism" and "quickness to the ball" that Doc talked about us needing, and as he spends more time on this team and settles into a gradually expanded role (especially with Glen Davis gone), I think he'll more than prove his worth.

[Lucky17]

Any comments pertaining to Glen Davis?

[Who]

I'll be extremely disappointed in Danny if he just lets Jeff go, though.

I comes down to how much you pay him.  In my opinion, Green isn't worth much more than the MLE.  He's a mediocre scorer, a mediocre defender, and a poor rebounder and passer.  Guys like that aren't worth the $10 million per season he reportedly asked for.

Agreed.  Which is why I think he plays for the QO this year.  He is in a position similar to Davis was a couple years ago.  He is probably worth something just above the MLE right now, however, he could possibly get more if he plays well next season.  And, since the C's would likely match an MLE type deal, teams know that they would need to overpay to lure him away, and he just is not good enough to overpay for right now.

So, I think he signs the QO, and then tries to rebuild his value next year.  

I don't think Green gets enough minutes to prove himself worthy of a larger contract the following summer.

More likely to hurt his market value than help it by returning to the Celtics on the Qualifying Offer.

[kozlodoev]

I'll be extremely disappointed in Danny if he just lets Jeff go, though.

I comes down to how much you pay him.  In my opinion, Green isn't worth much more than the MLE.  He's a mediocre scorer, a mediocre defender, and a poor rebounder and passer.  Guys like that aren't worth the $10 million per season he reportedly asked for.

Guys like the one you're describing shouldn't even be in the NBA. Overreact much?

[PosImpos]

Any comments pertaining to Glen Davis?

Please God let them be "I wish him good luck wherever he goes." and / or "Hopefully some team will be stupi-er, gracious enough to give us something in return for him."