Perkins would not have helped here

[17wasEZ]

Perk ain't gonna help with rotations.

Perk would foul the Heat just like the rest of the C's did.

We lost this series due to poor turnovers, poor offensive execution and our small lineup didn't come close to playing even to their small lineup.

True dat! TP for you! The Celtics concerned themselves with getting big over the summer figuring they would be fighting D. Howard and the Lakers and that the size advantage would overwhelm the Heat.  Instead, small ball was the team's undoing.

[vinnie]

So answer me this. How in the heck did OKC trade away two starters and become a better team given that they obviously got a stiff back in the trade who can do nothing that matters on the basketball court? It is amazing.

yeah it's hard to figure how a team with no interior defense and a slow 65% starting center could be on the verge of going to the WCFs...

I told dlpin to quit, but i just can't help myself.

Memphis when Perkins is on the court(before tonight): 114 ORtg
Memphis when Perkins is off the court: 97 ORtg.

They are winning because of Durant, Westbrook and their other bigs.

Of course. They actually are only playing with 4 guys on the court, because they don't need a center. Perkins is doing absolutely nothing. He is a figment of our imagination. OKC is so good, they traded away two starters, got back a center who clearly stinks, and they are still a better team. In fact, they probably only need Durant and Westbrook on the floor. And then that boneheaded GM out there compouonds his dumb trade by signing the center who clearly stinks to a 4-year contract. Amazing thing is that the center who stinks is going to be playing in the WCF. Just dumb luck, I guess.

Kendrick Perkins simply has been a stiff since he came into the NBA. Let's face it. Danny is a genius, he got rid of a stiff and got back the budding superstar in Jeff Green and the budding 3rd string center with the worst hair in the NBA. How did that work out for you, Celts?

Actually, I expect to hear Danny talk tomorrow on WEEI about how Shaq and JO are going to be healthy next year in training camp and are going to lead the Celts to 18.

[winsomme]

So answer me this. How in the heck did OKC trade away two starters and become a better team given that they obviously got a stiff back in the trade who can do nothing that matters on the basketball court? It is amazing.

yeah it's hard to figure how a team with no interior defense and a slow 65% starting center could be on the verge of going to the WCFs...

I told dlpin to quit, but i just can't help myself.

Memphis when Perkins is on the court(before tonight): 114 ORtg
Memphis when Perkins is off the court: 97 ORtg.

They are winning because of Durant, Westbrook and their other bigs.

riiiiiiight.

I knew this is what would happen if OKC kept winning and the Cs got ousted.

again, the real test will be to see what Danny does in the offseason, and my guess is that he moves quickly to get a starting center.

[dlpin]

Oh, yes. OKC is most definitely winning solely because of Perk's amazing 4 points, 7 rebounds and half a block a game. I don't know where they would be without him!

He's shut down Marc Gasol so thoroughly that he has only almost doubled his points and rebounds per game.

That is the reason OKC is up 3-2 on the 8th seed. Not Durant, not Westbrook, not Harden or Ibaka. Perkins and his amazing 5.2 PER!

Because that is the difference between the celtics and OKC, right?

[dlpin]

Somebody had posted this on the blog a few months back....

If this fanbase manages to get one of 4 GMs in NBA history to win a title without having a top 3 pick or a top free agent signing fired, it deserves 90s' style mediocrity for the rest of their lives.

[GreenBlood23]

It this again. This debate is really be like a beef lover trying to convince a vegetarian that meat has healing powers.

If Perk was here, this is whats going to happen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa9BkcW1ebw

and people say he's going to deter people from scoring in the paint?

OKC's success would've come with or without Perk in the team.

[Eja117]

2009-10 Playoffs

DWade
G1 - 26 points
G2 - 29 points
G3 - 34 points
G4 - 46 points
G5 - 31 points

LBJ
G1 - 35 points
G2 - 24 points
G3 - 38 points
G4 - 22 points
G5 - 15 points
G6 - 27 points

Oh we had Perk in those games.  LBJ's numbers dropped late in the series, but that's also when everyone believed he quit.

Soooooo......what you're saying is Pierce and Ray are horrid defenders?

[Eja117]

Weren't there a lot of people saying it was great having Shaq for 8 minutes in the game we won the other night? But somehow having Perk for the series wouldn't have helped?  By that theory having Shaq for the series wouldn't have helped either, right?

[LancerQ]

We lost to a more talented team.

[winsomme]

Oh, yes. OKC is most definitely winning solely because of Perk's amazing 4 points, 7 rebounds and half a block a game. I don't know where they would be without him!

He's shut down Marc Gasol so thoroughly that he has only almost doubled his points and rebounds per game.

That is the reason OKC is up 3-2 on the 8th seed. Not Durant, not Westbrook, not Harden or Ibaka. Perkins and his amazing 5.2 PER!

Because that is the difference between the celtics and OKC, right?

Let's see how OKC does. They were knocked out in the first round last season...

[clover]

The C's lost because the Big Three aren't good enough any more.  Miami had the two best players in the series, by far--which is a tough matchup to overcome.  Our starter against their MVP couldn't guard him.   And they'll be better next year, while our guys will have declined still further over the next year.

[thebat]

It's a fact... the team went weak after the Perk trade. It's not about Perks stats or what he could have contributed. It's about team spirit and chemistry.

[mctyson]

It's a fact... the team went weak after the Perk trade. It's not about Perks stats or what he could have contributed. It's about team spirit and chemistry.

Team spirit and chemistry are not FACTS.  And no, they did not lose to the Heat because they lacked spirit and chemistry.  They lost because Lebron made 3-pointers.

[hpantazo]

I can't believe anyone at all still thinks Perkins would have made a difference. Unbelievable! He would have barely played in this series, and would have rode the bench in the clutch, and JO was better than Perk would have been, and Perk is not helping OKC much so far. This celtics team played, very, very tough defense and played with a ton of heart and toughness, how can anyone question that? They lost because our offense sucked when the big three's legs were tired at the end of games, Perk would only have made matters worse in that dept.

[PAOBoston]

i dont think mattered this much in this series. but do you know who i really wish was still here watching this series? tony Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing allen. there. i said it. as much as he drove me crazy, the c's really could have used tony allen on d wade this series. d wade went off in like every game. i'm surprised nobody else has really talked about his departure really. it's solely been focused on perkins.