Perkins would not have helped here

[vinnie]

Perkins would not have helped here

Who knows what Perkins could have done here...what I do know is that Jeff Green and Nenad Krstic didn't help either.

If you didn't think JG and NK didn't contribute tonight then you didn't watch the game. JG has played well in this series.  Doc hasn't played NK so he hasn't had a chance to do anything.

Do people really think Perk could stop LBJ and DWade from driving the lane??? Seriously???  For whatever it's worth the C's played LBJ and Wade in the past with Perk and they still did the same as they did in this series.

Krstic contributed in one game and Green had a couple of good games. Bravo, Danny.

[barefacedmonk]

Perkins already rejected the offer the celtics gave him and that was the most the celtics could have offered.  He was willing to walk during the summer no matter what, because if he wasn't he would have signed the contract that the celtics offered him

Celtics could have  matched the offer in the offseason....just because he didn't sign the qualifying offer in the middle of the season doesn't mean "he would have walked no matter what".

the celtics could not have offered perkins as much money as the thunder did

Why not? They could have matched his offer.

[ejk3489]

I keep wondering. Does everyone that posts that Perkins would not have helped live inan alternative universe where they saw another Miami - Boston Series in which Perk played and the Celts still lost? I honestly don't know if they would have won had Danny not made the trade, but I would have preferred to tkae my chances with keeping Perk and maybe making a trade for a guy like Battier to backup Pierce.

Meanwhile, Good old Perk is likely going to the western conference finals. More power to him.

If you been watching the OKC series at all, Perk clearly isn't playing at full strength. I really don't think he would've helped much in stopping Wade/Lebron.

[rl8373a]

Perkins would not have helped here

Who knows what Perkins could have done here...what I do know is that Jeff Green and Nenad Krstic didn't help either.

If you didn't think JG and NK didn't contribute tonight then you didn't watch the game.

JG has had few good games...thats it. He hasn't been consistent at all.

He hasn't been given the opportunity to be consistent.  They talked about it during game 3 that he is putting up the same numbers statistically in minutes comparasion as he put as a starter in OKC

[rl8373a]

I keep wondering. Does everyone that posts that Perkins would not have helped live inan alternative universe where they saw another Miami - Boston Series in which Perk played and the Celts still lost? I honestly don't know if they would have won had Danny not made the trade, but I would have preferred to tkae my chances with keeping Perk and maybe making a trade for a guy like Battier to backup Pierce.

Meanwhile, Good old Perk is likely going to the western conference finals. More power to him.

If you been watching the OKC series at all, Perk clearly isn't playing at full strength. I really don't think he would've helped much in stopping Wade/Lebron.

Whoever the sideline reporter for that series is said that perkins told him he is playing at about 65%... i'm sorry but I don't think a 65% perkins helps out to much

[barefacedmonk]

Perkins would not have helped here

Who knows what Perkins could have done here...what I do know is that Jeff Green and Nenad Krstic didn't help either.

If you didn't think JG and NK didn't contribute tonight then you didn't watch the game.

JG has had few good games...thats it. He hasn't been consistent at all.

He hasn't been given the opportunity to be consistent.  They talked about it during game 3 that he is putting up the same numbers statistically in minutes comparasion as he put as a starter in OKC

9 playoff games and 30 or so regular season games....how many more opportunities does he need?

[winsomme]

I disagree.  There was no interior defense in this series.  Perk would have helped there.  But most importantly basketball is about chemistry and trust.  When Perkins left the Celtics lost both.   You could see it, so stop defending an terrible risk that Ainge took.   

Also,  Green is garbage.   If the Celtics give big money to that stiff they won't compete anytime soon.

I miss Perk dearly but I don't think Green is garbage. He is infuriating by not playing up to his skills but he's definitely not garage.

honestly, I think Danny made that trade because he thought he could get Green to play up to his potential....that clearly did not happen this year.

I don't think they gave Green the chances to play up to his potential.  Both Danny and Doc talked about the 08 4th quarter team and how Green would enable this but how many times did we see BBD out there instead of him leading up to the playoffs.  

I loved perk as much as the next guy I just don't think that Perk was the answer in this series yes he might have knocked down Wade or James a few times but so could have an 80-85% shaq and remember when Perk was traded he had injured his knee again

If we hadn't been so effective against MIA during the season, I might agree with you, but our size definitely gave MIA problems during the season. That was our advantage.

Just look at teams reactions to the Perk trade...they almost universally noted that it would be easier to drive the basket without Perk back there.

But you have to remember Perkins didn't play at all against the heat this season so he is not part of that size

that's not true. Perk played in the third game.

but aside from that, in all the wins we had a big that could make Wade and LeBron think twice about driving freely to the hoop.

Your right I stand corrected he played against them once and in that game Rondo had a triple double

losing Rondo was definitely a huge blow as well. That's why I started the "No PG + No C" thread.

I think this series could definitely have gone 7 if Rondo hadn't been injured...

[barefacedmonk]

I keep wondering. Does everyone that posts that Perkins would not have helped live inan alternative universe where they saw another Miami - Boston Series in which Perk played and the Celts still lost? I honestly don't know if they would have won had Danny not made the trade, but I would have preferred to tkae my chances with keeping Perk and maybe making a trade for a guy like Battier to backup Pierce.

Meanwhile, Good old Perk is likely going to the western conference finals. More power to him.

If you been watching the OKC series at all, Perk clearly isn't playing at full strength. I really don't think he would've helped much in stopping Wade/Lebron.

Whoever the sideline reporter for that series is said that perkins told him he is playing at about 65%... i'm sorry but I don't think a 65% perkins helps out to much

65% Perkins better than 0% Shaq. We had no backup center.

[rl8373a]

Perkins would not have helped here

Who knows what Perkins could have done here...what I do know is that Jeff Green and Nenad Krstic didn't help either.

If you didn't think JG and NK didn't contribute tonight then you didn't watch the game.

JG has had few good games...thats it. He hasn't been consistent at all.

He hasn't been given the opportunity to be consistent.  They talked about it during game 3 that he is putting up the same numbers statistically in minutes comparasion as he put as a starter in OKC

9 playoff games and 30 or so regular season games....how many more opportunities does he need?

He didn't get to play the minutes he needed to... as I said he put up the same numbers statistically per minute as when he played 37 minutes a game for OKC.  If he had played the amount of minutes that BBD did over the 39 games then yes I would say that he wasn't consistent

[CeltsAcumen]

Okay but the 2 people we traded for didn't help either. So now what?

I would have much rather kept our team chemistry in tact and lost than mess it all up in a trade deadline panic move and lose. But thats just my opinion.

There ya go.  Adding the ease in which Wade and Bron Bron got to the basket, I find your comments about no Perk incorrect.  Not only would the Celts have their team and not be worried about who has their back, they would of owned the boards.

Which is one of the keys to winning, controlling both offensive and defensive rebounding.

[winsomme]

I keep wondering. Does everyone that posts that Perkins would not have helped live inan alternative universe where they saw another Miami - Boston Series in which Perk played and the Celts still lost? I honestly don't know if they would have won had Danny not made the trade, but I would have preferred to tkae my chances with keeping Perk and maybe making a trade for a guy like Battier to backup Pierce.

Meanwhile, Good old Perk is likely going to the western conference finals. More power to him.

If you been watching the OKC series at all, Perk clearly isn't playing at full strength. I really don't think he would've helped much in stopping Wade/Lebron.

Whoever the sideline reporter for that series is said that perkins told him he is playing at about 65%... i'm sorry but I don't think a 65% perkins helps out to much

I don't know about the 65% but his legs look pretty good out there and OKC is trouncing MEM right now...

I'm sorry r, but I have followed OKC for a while now and their defense has been transformed since Perk started playing for them...

[rl8373a]

I disagree.  There was no interior defense in this series.  Perk would have helped there.  But most importantly basketball is about chemistry and trust.  When Perkins left the Celtics lost both.   You could see it, so stop defending an terrible risk that Ainge took.   

Also,  Green is garbage.   If the Celtics give big money to that stiff they won't compete anytime soon.

I miss Perk dearly but I don't think Green is garbage. He is infuriating by not playing up to his skills but he's definitely not garage.

honestly, I think Danny made that trade because he thought he could get Green to play up to his potential....that clearly did not happen this year.

I don't think they gave Green the chances to play up to his potential.  Both Danny and Doc talked about the 08 4th quarter team and how Green would enable this but how many times did we see BBD out there instead of him leading up to the playoffs.  

I loved perk as much as the next guy I just don't think that Perk was the answer in this series yes he might have knocked down Wade or James a few times but so could have an 80-85% shaq and remember when Perk was traded he had injured his knee again

If we hadn't been so effective against MIA during the season, I might agree with you, but our size definitely gave MIA problems during the season. That was our advantage.

Just look at teams reactions to the Perk trade...they almost universally noted that it would be easier to drive the basket without Perk back there.

But you have to remember Perkins didn't play at all against the heat this season so he is not part of that size

that's not true. Perk played in the third game.

but aside from that, in all the wins we had a big that could make Wade and LeBron think twice about driving freely to the hoop.

Your right I stand corrected he played against them once and in that game Rondo had a triple double

losing Rondo was definitely a huge blow as well. That's why I started the "No PG + No C" thread.

I think this series could definitely have gone 7 if Rondo hadn't been injured...

I agree with that.  I think we win if we have a healthy Rondo, as much as what he did was heroic and legendary you could see that he was laboring and that did hurt us.  

I really hope that his elbow does not need major surgery and I hope he gets in the gym and shoots jumpers all summer.  Because if he could get a reliable mid-range jumper and he played at that next gear he has, he really could be a top 3 pg in this league

[barefacedmonk]

Perkins would not have helped here

Who knows what Perkins could have done here...what I do know is that Jeff Green and Nenad Krstic didn't help either.

If you didn't think JG and NK didn't contribute tonight then you didn't watch the game.

JG has had few good games...thats it. He hasn't been consistent at all.

He hasn't been given the opportunity to be consistent.  They talked about it during game 3 that he is putting up the same numbers statistically in minutes comparasion as he put as a starter in OKC

9 playoff games and 30 or so regular season games....how many more opportunities does he need?

He didn't get to play the minutes he needed to... as I said he put up the same numbers statistically per minute as when he played 37 minutes a game for OKC.  If he had played the amount of minutes that BBD did over the 39 games then yes I would say that he wasn't consistent

He was signed to replace Pierce in the starting lineup? Per minute....per second..whatever. He has underachieved. Case closed. I don't know what Perkins could have done....but right now, that trade didn't do us much good for this run.

[greenpride32]

2009-10 Playoffs

DWade
G1 - 26 points
G2 - 29 points
G3 - 34 points
G4 - 46 points
G5 - 31 points

LBJ
G1 - 35 points
G2 - 24 points
G3 - 38 points
G4 - 22 points
G5 - 15 points
G6 - 27 points

Oh we had Perk in those games.  LBJ's numbers dropped late in the series, but that's also when everyone believed he quit.

[ejk3489]

Okay but the 2 people we traded for didn't help either. So now what?

I would have much rather kept our team chemistry in tact and lost than mess it all up in a trade deadline panic move and lose. But thats just my opinion.

There ya go.  Adding the ease in which Wade and Bron Bron got to the basket, I find your comments about no Perk incorrect.  Not only would the Celts have their team and not be worried about who has their back, they would of owned the boards.

Which is one of the keys to winning, controlling both offensive and defensive rebounding.

We've been owned on the boards for the past 2-3 years, with and without Perk.