Perkins would not have helped here

[rl8373a]

I'm sorry but I am going to go out and say it Kendrick Perkins would not have helped here.  Niether would any of the other players that we traded.

Perkins was only effective against two teams, the Magic and the Lakers.  Any center put with the big 4 could put up the numbers that Perkins did offensively and JO did just as well as him defensively.

The reason for the trade was that we needed somebody to back up pierce and that is what we got.  Besides the occasional lapses I believe Green played really well especially on defense.  If anything the problem was that he did not get to play with the big 4. 

I believe Doc is a great coach but if you talk about a reason for making a trade and then never go with why even mention it.  Green needed davis' minutes from the time he came over in the trade.

Overall I am disappointed but I am still happy to be a celtics fan.  I don't think any team in the NBA had as many injuries over the course of the season and during the playoffs as us and I believe that the team played with heart and pride anyways.

4 years, 1 title and 3 what if injuries...I am not jumping for joy but after that 06-07 season I will definitely take it

[Celticsfan336]

exactly

[SHAQATTACK]

I like Perk alot.

Take that back...he would have helped ..yes....but not enough m diff for a win in this series ...,  the Heat was just too much and too many healthy young legs and bodies. 

Now a 25yr old PP and KG .....thats another story.

[winsomme]

I'm sorry but I am going to go out and say it Kendrick Perkins would not have helped here.  Niether would any of the other players that we traded.

Perkins was only effective against two teams, the Magic and the Lakers.  Any center put with the big 4 could put up the numbers that Perkins did offensively and JO did just as well as him defensively.

The reason for the trade was that we needed somebody to back up pierce and that is what we got.  Besides the occasional lapses I believe Green played really well especially on defense.  If anything the problem was that he did not get to play with the big 4. 

I believe Doc is a great coach but if you talk about a reason for making a trade and then never go with why even mention it.  Green needed davis' minutes from the time he came over in the trade.

Overall I am disappointed but I am still happy to be a celtics fan.  I don't think any team in the NBA had as many injuries over the course of the season and during the playoffs as us and I believe that the team played with heart and pride anyways.

4 years, 1 title and 3 what if injuries...I am not jumping for joy but after that 06-07 season I will definitely take it

well I just listened to Ray Allen's postgame comments and he said we lost because of too much interior scoring.

Wade and LeBron drove to the basket without fear and that is directly related to our interior defense being weakened. The defensive rotations were slow, not strong, and sometimes non-existent...

so, how exactly can you conclude that Perk would not have helped?

[RJ87]

Perk would've meant less of BBD at the 5. Just sayin'....

[Marcus13]

I disagree, he would have helped our pathetic help defense and limited BBD's minutes.

Not saying we would have won, but he would have helped

[LB3533]

If Perk were here it would be more FTs for the Heat and Perk on the bench.

So in effect, Perk wouldn't be playing for us anyway.

[rl8373a]

I'm sorry but I am going to go out and say it Kendrick Perkins would not have helped here.  Niether would any of the other players that we traded.

Perkins was only effective against two teams, the Magic and the Lakers.  Any center put with the big 4 could put up the numbers that Perkins did offensively and JO did just as well as him defensively.

The reason for the trade was that we needed somebody to back up pierce and that is what we got.  Besides the occasional lapses I believe Green played really well especially on defense.  If anything the problem was that he did not get to play with the big 4. 

I believe Doc is a great coach but if you talk about a reason for making a trade and then never go with why even mention it.  Green needed davis' minutes from the time he came over in the trade.

Overall I am disappointed but I am still happy to be a celtics fan.  I don't think any team in the NBA had as many injuries over the course of the season and during the playoffs as us and I believe that the team played with heart and pride anyways.

4 years, 1 title and 3 what if injuries...I am not jumping for joy but after that 06-07 season I will definitely take it

well I just listened to Ray Allen's postgame comments and he said we lost because of too much interior scoring.

Wade and LeBron drove to the basket without fear and that is directly related to our interior defense being weakened. The defensive rotations were slow, not strong, and sometimes non-existent...

so, how exactly can you conclude that Perk would not have helped?

Because Perkins was injured, he was slow on defense and still is slow on defense.  Perkins himself wasn't going to stop the drives wade or lebron.  Perkins was a good one-on-one defender against howard/bynum because he had KG as help.  

The way you stop interior scoring from the wings is by not letting them get to the basket

[Jon]

I'm sorry but I am going to go out and say it Kendrick Perkins would not have helped here.  Niether would any of the other players that we traded.

Perkins was only effective against two teams, the Magic and the Lakers.  Any center put with the big 4 could put up the numbers that Perkins did offensively and JO did just as well as him defensively.

The reason for the trade was that we needed somebody to back up pierce and that is what we got.  Besides the occasional lapses I believe Green played really well especially on defense.  If anything the problem was that he did not get to play with the big 4. 

I believe Doc is a great coach but if you talk about a reason for making a trade and then never go with why even mention it.  Green needed davis' minutes from the time he came over in the trade.

Overall I am disappointed but I am still happy to be a celtics fan.  I don't think any team in the NBA had as many injuries over the course of the season and during the playoffs as us and I believe that the team played with heart and pride anyways.

4 years, 1 title and 3 what if injuries...I am not jumping for joy but after that 06-07 season I will definitely take it

well I just listened to Ray Allen's postgame comments and he said we lost because of too much interior scoring.

Wade and LeBron drove to the basket without fear and that is directly related to our interior defense being weakened. The defensive rotations were slow, not strong, and sometimes non-existent...

so, how exactly can you conclude that Perk would not have helped?

We lost because Rondo was hurt, plain and simple.  

The last two games were narrow losses.  Add a healthy Rondo and narrow losses become wins.  

[rl8373a]

I disagree, he would have helped our pathetic help defense and limited BBD's minutes.

Not saying we would have won, but he would have helped

Not going to disagree that he would have limited BBD minutes but so would have a 85% shaq and we saw that in game 3

[rsan]

he could have helped but then how long would he have lasted on the court due to our wings getting beat by lebron and wade. if we don't have jeff, who else outside of pierce do we put on lebron? its a catch 22 when it comes to the trade. he would of prevented lay ups, but he would have had to help a lot.

[GrandTheftRondo]

Okay but the 2 people we traded for didn't help either. So now what?

I would have much rather kept our team chemistry in tact and lost than mess it all up in a trade deadline panic move and lose. But thats just my opinion.

[Chief Macho]

I disagree.  There was no interior defense in this series.  Perk would have helped there.  But most importantly basketball is about chemistry and trust.  When Perkins left the Celtics lost both.   You could see it, so stop defending an terrible risk that Ainge took.   

Also,  Green is garbage.   If the Celtics give big money to that stiff they won't compete anytime soon.

[winsomme]

I'm sorry but I am going to go out and say it Kendrick Perkins would not have helped here.  Niether would any of the other players that we traded.

Perkins was only effective against two teams, the Magic and the Lakers.  Any center put with the big 4 could put up the numbers that Perkins did offensively and JO did just as well as him defensively.

The reason for the trade was that we needed somebody to back up pierce and that is what we got.  Besides the occasional lapses I believe Green played really well especially on defense.  If anything the problem was that he did not get to play with the big 4. 

I believe Doc is a great coach but if you talk about a reason for making a trade and then never go with why even mention it.  Green needed davis' minutes from the time he came over in the trade.

Overall I am disappointed but I am still happy to be a celtics fan.  I don't think any team in the NBA had as many injuries over the course of the season and during the playoffs as us and I believe that the team played with heart and pride anyways.

4 years, 1 title and 3 what if injuries...I am not jumping for joy but after that 06-07 season I will definitely take it

well I just listened to Ray Allen's postgame comments and he said we lost because of too much interior scoring.

Wade and LeBron drove to the basket without fear and that is directly related to our interior defense being weakened. The defensive rotations were slow, not strong, and sometimes non-existent...

so, how exactly can you conclude that Perk would not have helped?

Because Perkins was injured, he was slow on defense and still is slow on defense.  Perkins himself wasn't going to stop the drives wade or lebron.  Perkins was a good one-on-one defender against howard/bynum because he had KG as help.  

The way you stop interior scoring from the wings is by not letting them get to the basket

That's not how our defense works. We are very dependent on rotations on penetration. You know they kept talking about our "wall"...

We just didn't have the personnel to stop the penetration.

as for Perk, I'm watching him in the OKC series and his legs looks fresh and his snarl looks mean.

[winsomme]

I disagree.  There was no interior defense in this series.  Perk would have helped there.  But most importantly basketball is about chemistry and trust.  When Perkins left the Celtics lost both.   You could see it, so stop defending an terrible risk that Ainge took.   

Also,  Green is garbage.   If the Celtics give big money to that stiff they won't compete anytime soon.

I miss Perk dearly but I don't think Green is garbage. He is infuriating by not playing up to his skills but he's definitely not garage.

honestly, I think Danny made that trade because he thought he could get Green to play up to his potential....that clearly did not happen this year.