Mia dictating lineups

[LB3533]

In Game 2:

Miami was a +8 with Bosh at the 5 in the 2nd quarter. The C's countered that with a mix of JO/KG/BB and JG....when JG was on the court (only for 31 seconds of that juncture of the 2nd quarter) we were a +1, the only time we were in the positive during the time frame Bosh was the 5.

Now in the 4th quarter of Game 2, Miami was +4 when Bosh was at the 5....the only time JO was playing (1:38) during the 4th...the C's were -4. When Jeff Green subbed in, we were +3.

What was Baby's +/-?  I think you have to break that out considering how much worse he's playing than either JO or KG.  And I hardly think 1:38 is enough time to judge anything by statistical means.  That's barely more than 6 possessions in a game and a +/- of 4 can't possibly prove anything.

Mike

Baby's +/- is awful, anyway you slice it, but he plays the majority of his (now deceased) minutes with the 2nd unit.

Our Celtic Big 4 has like a +13 against the Heat's starters. So if JO is playing with our Big 4, he's going to look good regardless of his play (and he has played well this post season). BBD has stunk it up. He is not the answer at the 5, especially on the 2nd unit.

If JG is on the court he has been helping us at the very least, not be in the negative.

[LB3533]

So again, we did try to play big in the 1st 2 games and it didn't work out.

No, we did not go big.

First of all, the majority of the team played poorly for both games 1 and 2.  Second of all, playing big means ACTUALLY TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BEING BIG.  In the first two games, how many times did Jermaine get the ball in the post?  How many times did any Celtic big get the ball in the post to try and take advantage of a size mismatch.  Thirdly, if you're going to play big or small or whatever, you have to do it for more than a minute or two before abandoning it.

Mike

So Mike, is your problem with Doc actually using our Big men against the Heat defense or is your problem with Doc just matching up with the Heat's small lineup?

Posting up JO is not a good option...it's like posting up BBD, you do it if the match-ups are right.

And I feel more comfortable posting up Baby than JO. JO's game is not posting up anymore (if it ever was his game).

JO with the Big 4, he is the last option on offense.

I think in Game 1, KG was not assertive and we did not go inside at all. KG was looking to pass and play the team friendly, spread the wealth ball.

In Game 2 we tried to get KG going, but he was largely ineffective and inefficient the 1st half. He had one stretch in the 2nd half where he came alive, but it was not enough.

The honest truth though is, our strength is not our big men.

Our big men are our weakness.

[droopdog7]

So again, we did try to play big in the 1st 2 games and it didn't work out.

No, we did not go big.

First of all, the majority of the team played poorly for both games 1 and 2.  Second of all, playing big means ACTUALLY TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BEING BIG.  In the first two games, how many times did Jermaine get the ball in the post?  How many times did any Celtic big get the ball in the post to try and take advantage of a size mismatch.  Thirdly, if you're going to play big or small or whatever, you have to do it for more than a minute or two before abandoning it.

Mike

And therein lies the problem.  It seems that we can't go big because really, we would not gain an advantage.  Things might be different if Shaq were healthy because he could punish Bosh. 

But playing JO agains their small line up does nothing for us and a lot for them. 

Oh well.