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Re: Doc River's coaching thread (merged)
« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2011, 10:29:12 PM »

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With that said, KG came up really small. 

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« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2011, 10:29:31 PM »

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Doc lost game 7 last year too with his substitutions. Why go small just because Miami did? ::)  Punish them with size!  JO and Delonte should have played with Rondo on the bench in the 4th.  Perk sat the 4th because he was an offensive liability. JO is not the liability Perk was! >:(
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« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2011, 10:30:16 PM »

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This loss is heartbreaking, but I gotta say, even if we lose the series, the Rondo elbow game will be something that I'll always remember.

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« Reply #48 on: May 09, 2011, 10:35:50 PM »

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Rondo's missed layup was like Buckner's error. Just inexcusable. You can't make those kind of mistakes and expect to beat a team like the Heat. Courage doesn't translate into good play, unfortunately.

  Yeah, you probably could have dropped 30 on the Heat. Oh, wait, that was the Knicks.

  Seriously, with all the plays that everyone else screwed up, *this* is why you think we lost? Haha.

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« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2011, 10:36:44 PM »

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Are you guys serious??? C’mon, Doc looks to the bench and, besides a hurt Delonte and an still not-ready Green, he sees Murphy, a banged Shaq, Kristic and the dead corpse of Big Baby…all that having a aging starting five (and that is the difference between him and Spolestra, who does not desperately need to rest its starters)!!! I do not think he should be blamed at all…

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« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2011, 10:37:32 PM »

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Are you guys serious??? C’mon, Doc looks to the bench and, besides a hurt Delonte and an still not-ready Green, he sees Murphy, a banged Shaq, Kristic and the dead corpse of Big Baby…all that having a aging starting five (and that is the difference between him and Spolestra, who does not desperately need to rest its starters)!!! I do not think he should be blamed at all…


The issue is the starter he left on the bench.  The only other big man that is playing well. 

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« Reply #51 on: May 09, 2011, 10:38:55 PM »

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Von Wafer is an offensive explosion in a bottle. Doc doesnt play him because of his attitude.

Doc lost game 7 last year because he didnt leave the bench in long enough and decided to ride the starters into the ground.

He lost this game for us tonight because he decided to go small because miami went small and that resulted in us getting out scored 27-17.

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« Reply #52 on: May 09, 2011, 10:38:59 PM »

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Are you guys serious??? C’mon, Doc looks to the bench and, besides a hurt Delonte and an still not-ready Green, he sees Murphy, a banged Shaq, Kristic and the dead corpse of Big Baby…all that having a aging starting five (and that is the difference between him and Spolestra, who does not desperately need to rest its starters)!!! I do not think he should be blamed at all…

Well I'm complaining because he went small rather than punishing hem with size by playing JO, who was playing well by the way.
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« Reply #53 on: May 09, 2011, 10:41:13 PM »

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This loss is heartbreaking, but I gotta say, even if we lose the series, the Rondo elbow game will be something that I'll always remember.
Sadly, I'll now remember that game as the beginning of the end with that injury. We need Rondo to average a near triple double to get us anywhere, and right now...he's very human.

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« Reply #54 on: May 09, 2011, 10:53:33 PM »

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This thread is ridiculous!!!

The coach did not lose this game. If anything his coaching kept this team in the game given the fact that:

 - Ray Allen didn't show up in the first half
 - KG didn't show up offensively all night
 - Big baby disappeared from the face of basketball somewhere around the end of January
 - Rajon Rondo is playing less than two days after separating his elbow
 - Shaq hasn't played real basketball since February and is old, injured, overweight, immobile and basically done
 - Doc's bench after the first 9 is pathetic
 - Delonte is playing on cortisone shots and guts.
 - 5 of the 9 players in Doc's rotation are over 33 years old or older, a lot older.

Are people really going to blame the coach given these circumstances? Really? Cause if you are I have to question whether you are really looking at the big picture here or just angry and taking out your frustrations on the coach rather than on people it deserves to be on like the GM who constructed this team and the players who played poorly.

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« Reply #55 on: May 09, 2011, 10:55:44 PM »

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This thread is ridiculous!!!

The coach did not lose this game. If anything his coaching kept this team in the game given the fact that:

 - Ray Allen didn't show up in the first half
 - KG didn't show up offensively all night
 - Big baby disappeared from the face of basketball somewhere around the end of January
 - Rajon Rondo is playing less than two days after separating his elbow
 - Shaq hasn't played real basketball since February and is old, injured, overweight, immobile and basically done
 - Doc's bench after the first 9 is pathetic
 - Delonte is playing on cortisone shots and guts.
 - 5 of the 9 players in Doc's rotation are over 33 years old or older, a lot older.

Are people really going to blame the coach given these circumstances? Really? Cause if you are I have to question whether you are really looking at the big picture here or just angry and taking out your frustrations on the coach rather than on people it deserves to be on like the GM who constructed this team and the players who played poorly.


Those are all things that add into the loss.


So is going small in the 4th quarter and OT.  During that time, Heat outscored the Celtics 27-17.



JO is one of the guys that are playing well.  He should not be an after thought down the stretch. 

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« Reply #56 on: May 09, 2011, 10:56:44 PM »

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Von Wafer is an offensive explosion in a bottle. Doc doesnt play him because of his attitude.


  Are we sure it's not because Wafer would be guarding Wade or James?

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« Reply #57 on: May 09, 2011, 10:59:43 PM »

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Von Wafer would be guarding Wade but would he really do a worse job then greene does on lebron or allen does on wade?

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« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2011, 11:03:20 PM »

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Von Wafer would be guarding Wade but would he really do a worse job then greene does on lebron or allen does on wade?
Yeah, I would expect Von Wafer to be much worse.

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« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2011, 11:04:18 PM »

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Guys, we are all frustrated, but c'mon: we are blaming Doc for not using VON WAFER??????