Get Ray Allen more shots please

[FatjohnReturns]

Notice how Miami has basically three people taking shots. Wade 21. Lebron 19 and Bosh 10, Jones 7 and no one else more than 4.

In game 1 we had Pierce 14, Ray 13, Rondo 10, Delonte 9, Garnett 9, JGreen 8, Jermaine 6, Baby 5. Everyone shot less than 50% except for Ray who made 69% of fga.

I am not a big fan of Pierce leading the team in fga while Lebron is on him. The other guys besides Garnett and Ray need to be down around four attempts playing hard defense and rebounding the ball. THe second unit guys dont know when to shoot and when to pass they hesitate and looked confused on offense. Doc has overcomplicated things.

GET RAY THE BALL please. He needs to get more shot attempts. He needs to be handeling the ball more. He is our best offensive weapon in this series.

Its easy for Wade to get in rhythm when he takes 21 attempts. I believe we need to get Ray just as many shots as DWade is attempting. I dont like our offense. Wade can't shut down Ray and we should be making Wade work really hard by getting Ray much more involved.

[Marcus13]

Im in agreement with you...except that he needs to be HANDLING the ball more.  This isn't really a strength of his...we do need to be more consistent in setting screens for him though to get that quick release off

[GreenEnvy]

Notice how Miami has basically three people taking shots. Wade 21. Lebron 19 and Bosh 10, Jones 7 and no one else more than 4.

In game 1 we had Pierce 14, Ray 13, Rondo 10, Delonte 9, Garnett 9, JGreen 8, Jermaine 6, Baby 5. Everyone shot less than 50% except for Ray who made 69% of fga.

I am not a big fan of Pierce leading the team in fga while Lebron is on him. The other guys besides Garnett and Ray need to be down around four attempts playing hard defense and rebounding the ball. THe second unit guys dont know when to shoot and when to pass they hesitate and looked confused on offense. Doc has overcomplicated things.

GET RAY THE BALL please. He needs to get more shot attempts. He needs to be handeling the ball more. He is our best offensive weapon in this series.

Its easy for Wade to get in rhythm when he takes 21 attempts. I believe we need to get Ray just as many shots as DWade is attempting. I dont like our offense. Wade can't shut down Ray and we should be making Wade work really hard by getting Ray much more involved.

Obviously, the more Ray gets open, the more we will feed him. But it's not that easy. I expect a better effort on setting picks to free him up, as the Heat really don't have anyone that can stay with him for an extended period of time.

But, the balanced attack is what makes us great IMO. We don't rely too heavily (on offense, anyway) on any one player to score. We need Rondo to facilitate, but we have many that can put points on the board.

[FatjohnReturns]

Notice how Miami has basically three people taking shots. Wade 21. Lebron 19 and Bosh 10, Jones 7 and no one else more than 4.

In game 1 we had Pierce 14, Ray 13, Rondo 10, Delonte 9, Garnett 9, JGreen 8, Jermaine 6, Baby 5. Everyone shot less than 50% except for Ray who made 69% of fga.

I am not a big fan of Pierce leading the team in fga while Lebron is on him. The other guys besides Garnett and Ray need to be down around four attempts playing hard defense and rebounding the ball. THe second unit guys dont know when to shoot and when to pass they hesitate and looked confused on offense. Doc has overcomplicated things.

GET RAY THE BALL please. He needs to get more shot attempts. He needs to be handeling the ball more. He is our best offensive weapon in this series.

Its easy for Wade to get in rhythm when he takes 21 attempts. I believe we need to get Ray just as many shots as DWade is attempting. I dont like our offense. Wade can't shut down Ray and we should be making Wade work really hard by getting Ray much more involved.

Obviously, the more Ray gets open, the more we will feed him. But it's not that easy. I expect a better effort on setting picks to free him up, as the Heat really don't have anyone that can stay with him for an extended period of time.

But, the balanced attack is what makes us great IMO. We don't rely too heavily (on offense, anyway) on any one player to score. We need Rondo to facilitate, but we have many that can put points on the board.

Disagree, the balanced attack is what makes us weaker. You have the more inefficient offensive players taking realatively equal shot attempts. Rondo 3-10, Jeff Green 3-8, Baby 2-5 and Delonte 3-9 while Ray shoots 69% for the game. It would be like Joel Anthony taking as many shots as Wade and Lebron. Instead he plays 31 minutes plays hard defense and rebounds the ball. One shot attempt in 31 minutes.

If you watched Ray play in Milwaukee and Seattle he was good at driving the ball to the rim or taking a mid range shot. 45% career fg% He created alot of contact and got to the line often. Since he arrived in Boston he used  as a spot up 3pt shooter.

"We need Rondo to facilitate" Rondo can only facilitate in the open court. In the playoffs you have to be able to execute in the halfcourt and mostly we have the ball in the Rondos hands who struggles to hit a jumpshot and cant hit freethrows. Its not effective.

[BudweiserCeltic]

What is needed is more timely passes from Rondo, he often holds the ball a bit too long to check other options before giving Ray the pass. When Ray is coming off screens you need to make it a priority to give him the ball before the defender catches up, else having Ray running around is completely meaningless.

Also we need more kick-outs. We're doing quite a bit of penetrating, but people are not looking back to the perimeter for wide open shots. It's the reason why defenses are collapsing on anyone who gets around the basket, and then we have nothing to show for it.

[BballTim]

Notice how Miami has basically three people taking shots. Wade 21. Lebron 19 and Bosh 10, Jones 7 and no one else more than 4.

In game 1 we had Pierce 14, Ray 13, Rondo 10, Delonte 9, Garnett 9, JGreen 8, Jermaine 6, Baby 5. Everyone shot less than 50% except for Ray who made 69% of fga.

I am not a big fan of Pierce leading the team in fga while Lebron is on him. The other guys besides Garnett and Ray need to be down around four attempts playing hard defense and rebounding the ball. THe second unit guys dont know when to shoot and when to pass they hesitate and looked confused on offense. Doc has overcomplicated things.

GET RAY THE BALL please. He needs to get more shot attempts. He needs to be handeling the ball more. He is our best offensive weapon in this series.

Its easy for Wade to get in rhythm when he takes 21 attempts. I believe we need to get Ray just as many shots as DWade is attempting. I dont like our offense. Wade can't shut down Ray and we should be making Wade work really hard by getting Ray much more involved.

Obviously, the more Ray gets open, the more we will feed him. But it's not that easy. I expect a better effort on setting picks to free him up, as the Heat really don't have anyone that can stay with him for an extended period of time.

But, the balanced attack is what makes us great IMO. We don't rely too heavily (on offense, anyway) on any one player to score. We need Rondo to facilitate, but we have many that can put points on the board.

Disagree, the balanced attack is what makes us weaker. You have the more inefficient offensive players taking realatively equal shot attempts. Rondo 3-10, Jeff Green 3-8, Baby 2-5 and Delonte 3-9 while Ray shoots 69% for the game. It would be like Joel Anthony taking as many shots as Wade and Lebron. Instead he plays 31 minutes plays hard defense and rebounds the ball. One shot attempt in 31 minutes.

  First of all, if Ray forces up more shots when he's not as open the result will be a lower fg% on his part. Secondly, nobody on the Celts can create their own shot as well as James or Wade. Miami doesn't rely on ball movement, so players like Anthony will never find the ball in their hands.

If you watched Ray play in Milwaukee and Seattle he was good at driving the ball to the rim or taking a mid range shot. 45% career fg% He created alot of contact and got to the line often. Since he arrived in Boston he used  as a spot up 3pt shooter.

  Ray was younger and quicker then.

"We need Rondo to facilitate" Rondo can only facilitate in the open court. In the playoffs you have to be able to execute in the halfcourt and mostly we have the ball in the Rondos hands who struggles to hit a jumpshot and cant hit freethrows. Its not effective.

  Rondo's our best facilitator in the half court. I thought he was getting people good looks on Sunday, the shots just weren't falling.

[wdleehi]

Miami (specifically Wade) is doing a great job not leaving the space Ray wants (and in cases need) to put up good shots.  Credit the Miami defense for that.


This is why the Celtics need Rondo and KG to be offensive forces.  They have the mismatches.  They can for the Heat defense to have to react.  And then, Ray is likely to find more of that space he needs to put up good shots and be the dagger to the heart. 

[FatjohnReturns]

Notice how Miami has basically three people taking shots. Wade 21. Lebron 19 and Bosh 10, Jones 7 and no one else more than 4.

In game 1 we had Pierce 14, Ray 13, Rondo 10, Delonte 9, Garnett 9, JGreen 8, Jermaine 6, Baby 5. Everyone shot less than 50% except for Ray who made 69% of fga.

I am not a big fan of Pierce leading the team in fga while Lebron is on him. The other guys besides Garnett and Ray need to be down around four attempts playing hard defense and rebounding the ball. THe second unit guys dont know when to shoot and when to pass they hesitate and looked confused on offense. Doc has overcomplicated things.

GET RAY THE BALL please. He needs to get more shot attempts. He needs to be handeling the ball more. He is our best offensive weapon in this series.

Its easy for Wade to get in rhythm when he takes 21 attempts. I believe we need to get Ray just as many shots as DWade is attempting. I dont like our offense. Wade can't shut down Ray and we should be making Wade work really hard by getting Ray much more involved.

Obviously, the more Ray gets open, the more we will feed him. But it's not that easy. I expect a better effort on setting picks to free him up, as the Heat really don't have anyone that can stay with him for an extended period of time.

But, the balanced attack is what makes us great IMO. We don't rely too heavily (on offense, anyway) on any one player to score. We need Rondo to facilitate, but we have many that can put points on the board.

Disagree, the balanced attack is what makes us weaker. You have the more inefficient offensive players taking realatively equal shot attempts. Rondo 3-10, Jeff Green 3-8, Baby 2-5 and Delonte 3-9 while Ray shoots 69% for the game. It would be like Joel Anthony taking as many shots as Wade and Lebron. Instead he plays 31 minutes plays hard defense and rebounds the ball. One shot attempt in 31 minutes.

  First of all, if Ray forces up more shots when he's not as open the result will be a lower fg% on his part. Secondly, nobody on the Celts can create their own shot as well as James or Wade. Miami doesn't rely on ball movement, so players like Anthony will never find the ball in their hands.

If you watched Ray play in Milwaukee and Seattle he was good at driving the ball to the rim or taking a mid range shot. 45% career fg% He created alot of contact and got to the line often. Since he arrived in Boston he used  as a spot up 3pt shooter.

  Ray was younger and quicker then.

"We need Rondo to facilitate" Rondo can only facilitate in the open court. In the playoffs you have to be able to execute in the halfcourt and mostly we have the ball in the Rondos hands who struggles to hit a jumpshot and cant hit freethrows. Its not effective.

  "Rondo's our best facilitator in the half court. I thought he was getting people good looks on Sunday, the shots just weren't falling."

He is passing to people who shouldnt be shooting the ball. Pierce 14 attempts with Lebron on him. Jermaine 6, Baby 5.  Also if Rondo is our best facilitator in the half court and puts up 7 assists and 5 turnovers a game going forward we will lose this series in four games.

[BballTim]

Notice how Miami has basically three people taking shots. Wade 21. Lebron 19 and Bosh 10, Jones 7 and no one else more than 4.

In game 1 we had Pierce 14, Ray 13, Rondo 10, Delonte 9, Garnett 9, JGreen 8, Jermaine 6, Baby 5. Everyone shot less than 50% except for Ray who made 69% of fga.

I am not a big fan of Pierce leading the team in fga while Lebron is on him. The other guys besides Garnett and Ray need to be down around four attempts playing hard defense and rebounding the ball. THe second unit guys dont know when to shoot and when to pass they hesitate and looked confused on offense. Doc has overcomplicated things.

GET RAY THE BALL please. He needs to get more shot attempts. He needs to be handeling the ball more. He is our best offensive weapon in this series.

Its easy for Wade to get in rhythm when he takes 21 attempts. I believe we need to get Ray just as many shots as DWade is attempting. I dont like our offense. Wade can't shut down Ray and we should be making Wade work really hard by getting Ray much more involved.

Obviously, the more Ray gets open, the more we will feed him. But it's not that easy. I expect a better effort on setting picks to free him up, as the Heat really don't have anyone that can stay with him for an extended period of time.

But, the balanced attack is what makes us great IMO. We don't rely too heavily (on offense, anyway) on any one player to score. We need Rondo to facilitate, but we have many that can put points on the board.

Disagree, the balanced attack is what makes us weaker. You have the more inefficient offensive players taking realatively equal shot attempts. Rondo 3-10, Jeff Green 3-8, Baby 2-5 and Delonte 3-9 while Ray shoots 69% for the game. It would be like Joel Anthony taking as many shots as Wade and Lebron. Instead he plays 31 minutes plays hard defense and rebounds the ball. One shot attempt in 31 minutes.

  First of all, if Ray forces up more shots when he's not as open the result will be a lower fg% on his part. Secondly, nobody on the Celts can create their own shot as well as James or Wade. Miami doesn't rely on ball movement, so players like Anthony will never find the ball in their hands.

If you watched Ray play in Milwaukee and Seattle he was good at driving the ball to the rim or taking a mid range shot. 45% career fg% He created alot of contact and got to the line often. Since he arrived in Boston he used  as a spot up 3pt shooter.

  Ray was younger and quicker then.

"We need Rondo to facilitate" Rondo can only facilitate in the open court. In the playoffs you have to be able to execute in the halfcourt and mostly we have the ball in the Rondos hands who struggles to hit a jumpshot and cant hit freethrows. Its not effective.

  "Rondo's our best facilitator in the half court. I thought he was getting people good looks on Sunday, the shots just weren't falling."

He is passing to people who shouldnt be shooting the ball. Pierce 14 attempts with Lebron on him. Jermaine 6, Baby 5.  Also if Rondo is our best facilitator in the half court and puts up 7 assists and 5 turnovers a game going forward we will lose this series in four games.

 First of all I don't know that you should be complaining that much about JO getting shots because he hit over 60% of his shots vs the Knicks. Secondly, if Rondo only passes the ball to players that you think should be shooting and ignores everyone else then the defense will ignore those players as well. We'll struggle to score more than 70 points a game playing like that. And I'd agree that we need better than 7 assists and 5 turnovers a game from Rondo, which depends on his taking somewhat better control of the ball (although I think almost all of those turnovers were late in the game when he was trying to force a comeback) as well as players hitting some of the shots that generally rimmed out in game 1. Clearly one game doesn't mean that Rondo isn't our best facilitator though.

[pearljammer10]

I dont know...Its going to be awfully hard to get Ray Allen touches when Wade is playing "phenominal" defense and "sticking to him like glue"... (Jeff Van Gundy)   

[FatjohnReturns]

Unbelievable Glen Davis and Jermaine both get as many attempts as Ray. We have the greatest 3pt shooter of all-time on our team and we have Baby and Jermaine putting up as many attempts as Ray.

Rivers ball movement is a failure. terrible coaching

[BballTim]

Unbelievable Glen Davis and Jermaine both get as many attempts as Ray. We have the greatest 3pt shooter of all-time on our team and we have Baby and Jermaine putting up as many attempts as Ray.

Terrible coaching

  If you think Ray's been wide open and we've been going to Baby in those situations then you're watching a different game than I am.

[FatjohnReturns]

What about the drive and kickout to Ray for a few shots. If you think having Baby or Jermaine shoot jumpers is a good offensive option when you have the greatest 3pt shooter of all time on your team your watching a different game.

[Chris]

What about the drive and kickout to Ray for a few shots. If you think having Baby or Jermaine shoot jumpers is a good offensive option when you have the greatest 3pt shooter of all time on your team your watching a different game.

No one thinks that...except for the Heat.  Unfortunately, the Heat were the ones really dictating the C's offense for most of the game last night.  While they might miss a rotation here and their, they close out so incredibly quickly, and they made a point to take away Ray and Pierce on the perimeter and KG on the post. 

They were trying very hard to get Ray his shots, but its just not that easy when guys are all over him, and they have guys who can cover as much ground as the Heat defenders can.

[Marcus13]

I think Pierce being so immobile last night really hurt.  Nobody from Miami had to help on Pierce when he put the ball on the floor so nobody was having to cheat off Ray at all