2010-11 NBA Playoffs / Finals

[soap07]

Yes, tonight they got help from the bench. Normally they do not. They are NOT a team. I hate them. I hate Lebron James, I hate what the NBA has become. I just find it hard to believe that any Celtics fan would not hate this team and how it was assembled.

For what it's worth, the C's lost games on purpose the year before as part of their quest to get a top draft pick - used said near-top draft pick to land the pieces that got the C's a championship. This to me is far worse than 3 stars taking paycuts in their primes and sacrificing to win.

Celtics fans hate this because this isn't their team in the Finals and about to roll to another championship.

[cman88]

Yes, tonight they got help from the bench. Normally they do not. They are NOT a team. I hate them. I hate Lebron James, I hate what the NBA has become. I just find it hard to believe that any Celtics fan would not hate this team and how it was assembled.

For what it's worth, the C's lost games on purpose the year before as part of their quest to get a top draft pick - used said near-top draft pick to land the pieces that got the C's a championship. This to me is far worse than 3 stars taking paycuts in their primes and sacrificing to win.

Celtics fans hate this because this isn't their team in the Finals and about to roll to another championship.

Building a championship team through Trades and drafting is what you are SUPPOSED to do...also, its not like the celtics got 3 guys in their prime, they got a big 3 of aged stars who had everything but a ring.

not 3 stars in their prime collaborating to take less $ to basically Buy championships...its not equal at all

[paulcowens]

The Heat are about to win a microwave championship, that cheapens the meaning and value of a championship.  But they do play some pretty awesome defense.

[cman88]

I mean, put it like this...you have teams like the Bulls, celtics, thunder, knicks etc. who struggled for years, built up draft picks, developed youth....the celtics, Knicks decided to trade those pieces/picks to get stars to "win now"...the bulls, thunder struggled, still worked to get more pieces to  got better each year, still not there yet but close..

then you have 3 superstars who thought "hey, if we get together well be unstoppable!" and they go to the championship that same year...

thats why it feels fake....it took the celts, knicks, bulls years in mediocrity to build their teams to championship levels...the heat basically bought a championship

[vinnie]

Yes, tonight they got help from the bench. Normally they do not. They are NOT a team. I hate them. I hate Lebron James, I hate what the NBA has become. I just find it hard to believe that any Celtics fan would not hate this team and how it was assembled.

For what it's worth, the C's lost games on purpose the year before as part of their quest to get a top draft pick - used said near-top draft pick to land the pieces that got the C's a championship. This to me is far worse than 3 stars taking paycuts in their primes and sacrificing to win.

Celtics fans hate this because this isn't their team in the Finals and about to roll to another championship.

Are you honestly a Celtics fan? And you are comparing the crap that went on in Miami with teams losing games to try to get a better draft pick? Give me a break. You clearly are a closet heat fan. And wow -- the sacrifices made by Lebron, Wade and Bosh. Not sure how they will get by on that measly $16 million a year, not to mention all the marketing and sponsorship deals they have.

[RJ87]

Lol Vinnie - its funny to me how ppl act like they took MLE type money to play together.

And I haven't added up numbers or anything, but I'd be surprised if what they're making in no-state-income-tax-Miami is strikingly similar to what they would've made had they signed to a team in a state where they had to pay state income tax.

[JoT]

Yes, tonight they got help from the bench. Normally they do not. They are NOT a team. I hate them. I hate Lebron James, I hate what the NBA has become. I just find it hard to believe that any Celtics fan would not hate this team and how it was assembled.

For what it's worth, the C's lost games on purpose the year before as part of their quest to get a top draft pick - used said near-top draft pick to land the pieces that got the C's a championship. This to me is far worse than 3 stars taking paycuts in their primes and sacrificing to win.

Celtics fans hate this because this isn't their team in the Finals and about to roll to another championship.

Building a championship team through Trades and drafting is what you are SUPPOSED to do...also, its not like the celtics got 3 guys in their prime, they got a big 3 of aged stars who had everything but a ring.

not 3 stars in their prime collaborating to take less $ to basically Buy championships...its not equal at all

[slamtheking]

There needs to be a lockout after this year, and there needs to be a hard cap so that teams like Miami won't form and Miami can't sign guys like, say, Steve Nash for the MLE for the next decade.

It's too late though.  Miami has already formed. 

The only way Stern gets on board with preventing this mess from occurring again or from Miami being handed titles for the next several years is if TV ratings take a nosedive from fans no longer watching the games.  Merchandising would have to take a major hit as well to get his attention and get some fairness instituted in the front office transactions as well as the games.

[JoT]

Yes, tonight they got help from the bench. Normally they do not. They are NOT a team. I hate them. I hate Lebron James, I hate what the NBA has become. I just find it hard to believe that any Celtics fan would not hate this team and how it was assembled.

For what it's worth, the C's lost games on purpose the year before as part of their quest to get a top draft pick - used said near-top draft pick to land the pieces that got the C's a championship. This to me is far worse than 3 stars taking paycuts in their primes and sacrificing to win.

Celtics fans hate this because this isn't their team in the Finals and about to roll to another championship.

You're supposed to win championships through the trade and draft. You think players will magically come to a team. How do you think Boston Celtics were built? Through trade and the draft. How were the Bulls built? Through trade and draft. And how were the Spurs and Lakers built? Through trade and draft.
OKC has become who they were because of the trade and draft.

Also Mimai 3 didn't really take a pay cut. They don't pay taxes in Miami and they all get endorsements so basically the money they lost will at least come back in half.
I don't hate the Heat nor do I hate the players. Personally don't care who wins unless they're the Lakers because of tying banners or the Celtics because they go up a notch and I don't really plan on watching the Finals this year anyway.

[JoT]

There needs to be a lockout after this year, and there needs to be a hard cap so that teams like Miami won't form and Miami can't sign guys like, say, Steve Nash for the MLE for the next decade.

It's too late though.  Miami has already formed. 

The only way Stern gets on board with preventing this mess from occurring again or from Miami being handed titles for the next several years is if TV ratings take a nosedive from fans no longer watching the games.  Merchandising would have to take a major hit as well to get his attention and get some fairness instituted in the front office transactions as well as the games.

That to me is the only way they will not win as much or god forbid one of them gets injured like KG did. I don't wish injury on no player no matter what, so I will not watch them or this finals if that means a handed championship. I respect the players because of talent, but this finals feels sour like a tainted or bought finals and no it's not because Boston's not in it. It feels like a "here LeBron so you won't get clowned and laughed at for not having any rings" championship to me .

He's talented heck they're all talented and I will admit they played the game of the NBA organization well and used a way to automatically be set to win many championships, but that still doesn't mean I have to like it.

[Who]

Dallas have to rebound better. They have no hope of winning this series if Miami is beating them by 10 boards a night.

Miami looks like they are going to kill Dallas whenever they use their small ball lineups with Bosh at center. Dallas has to win when (1) Joel Anthony is on the floor (2) Bosh is on the bench ... to have a chance in this series.

[Who]

Big credit to Chris Bosh (9 boards, 5 offensive), LeBron James (9 boards), Dwyane Wade (10 boards), Mike Miller (5 boards in 20 minutes) ... those guys where terrific at creating extra possessions for Miami.

Chris Bosh, U.Haslem, J.Anthony and J.Howard (who gave them great minutes) did a darn fine job of keeping Tyson Chandler off the backboards too.

LeBron had some very nice defensive boards (led all players in def reb). Just swooped in there and snatched it right out of the air. Nobody had a chance of beating him to those balls. Too big, too strong, too athletic. Great hands.

[Who]

Barring a major injury, the Heat are going to own the NBA for some time to come.

Yup -- this will probably be the weakest team they are going to have for quite some time.

Dywane Wade and Chris Bosh haven't been the most durable players plus Wade relies heavily on his explosive athleticism so maybe it won't last too long but if those guys age well? Yeesh, five titles seems like the minimum.

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Miami are probably going to have another Championship caliber team around LeBron James after those two begin to fade away too.

LeBron could pick up another 1-2 titles after them. 

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There's not much better that a team can do than to put two MVP caliber talents alongside one another. It's a huge separating factor.

[Who]

Dirk's defense is calling the Mavs right now. He's playing decently offensively - but he's given up some easy buckets on the other end.

Dirk's abysmal rebounding in the first half cost the Mavs a bunch of easy baskets too.

[ACF]

LeBron had some very nice defensive boards (led all players in def reb). Just swooped in there and snatched it right out of the air. Nobody had a chance of beating him to those balls. Too big, too strong, too athletic. Great hands.

Yeah, it's amazing what skill + HGH can do.