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Re: Dan Shaughnessy article on the "trade"
« Reply #75 on: April 15, 2011, 06:05:53 PM »

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Could it be that Jeff Green was the Thunder's Big Baby?

Jeff was asked to play too many different roles and not the one specific role that would allow his game to flourish?


Re: Dan Shaughnessy article on the "trade"
« Reply #76 on: April 15, 2011, 09:29:14 PM »

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What I am saying is this team now just refuses to play great anymore. They still are and they still can do it.

It is just that they don't want to play and fight anymore. Say all the stats you want to, Perk not on the court Perk on the court, his production, before and after, etc etc, but definitely, as a matter of factly, believe all you want, but the Perk trade really affected badly everyone in this team.

They are throwing in the towel already. This playoff's gonna be short.


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Well since you've managed to insult those who disagree with you, I'd like to ask you a few questions:

1)  Perkins was on the team, and healthy, the 2nd half of last season.  Why didn't that "special brotherhood" prevent the team from going .500 for that entire half??

2)  How did this "special brotherhood" benefit the Celtics the 1st half of this season when Perkins wasn't even on the court??

3)  How is it that with Shaq starting at center the Celtics were the 2nd best 5-man unit in the entire league??  

4)  What recent history can you show me that Shaq does not play, or is not healthy, in the playoffs??  He consistently sits our regular season games, but always shows up for the playoffs.  

I personally find it "pathetic" that you've given up on this team already.  You've jumped off the team wagon before 1 game of the playoffs have started, so I think you might as well relegate yourself to posting only in offseason and/or 2011-2012 threads.  
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Re: Dan Shaughnessy article on the "trade"
« Reply #77 on: April 15, 2011, 10:02:01 PM »

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Could it be that Jeff Green was the Thunder's Big Baby?

Jeff was asked to play too many different roles and not the one specific role that would allow his game to flourish?



Kobe was the 2nd option on a team where the 1st option puts up 25 shots, and the third option was starting to take over as 2nd option because he started with the ball.

Re: Dan Shaughnessy article on the "trade"
« Reply #78 on: April 16, 2011, 01:28:42 PM »

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What I am saying is this team now just refuses to play great anymore. They still are and they still can do it.

It is just that they don't want to play and fight anymore. Say all the stats you want to, Perk not on the court Perk on the court, his production, before and after, etc etc, but definitely, as a matter of factly, believe all you want, but the Perk trade really affected badly everyone in this team.

They are throwing in the towel already. This playoff's gonna be short.



Well since you've managed to insult those who disagree with you, I'd like to ask you a few questions:

1)  Perkins was on the team, and healthy, the 2nd half of last season.  Why didn't that "special brotherhood" prevent the team from going .500 for that entire half??

2)  How did this "special brotherhood" benefit the Celtics the 1st half of this season when Perkins wasn't even on the court??

3)  How is it that with Shaq starting at center the Celtics were the 2nd best 5-man unit in the entire league??  

4)  What recent history can you show me that Shaq does not play, or is not healthy, in the playoffs??  He consistently sits our regular season games, but always shows up for the playoffs.  

I personally find it "pathetic" that you've given up on this team already.  You've jumped off the team wagon before 1 game of the playoffs have started, so I think you might as well relegate yourself to posting only in offseason and/or 2011-2012 threads.  
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+1

By some of the posters standards, you'd think this 'special brotherhood' brought us 4 championships already.  Just look at the mediocrity from last year when Perkins was around and their theory is wiped clean.

Re: Dan Shaughnessy article on the "trade"
« Reply #79 on: April 17, 2011, 02:30:17 AM »

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Again, here lies the biggest problem of all... banking on Shaq to play and help us win in the playoffs. You should really listen to yourself here. You really believe he can play and assert himself in the playoffs?

And please do not give me stats on "Perkins on the bench in the start of the year whilst Shaq was playing and we were winning" cause that doesn't mean a thing or two compared to the Playoffs! Shaq was supposed to be back up to Perkins! And that's a fact! Period.

And who replaces Perkins again in the starting 5 to handle our 1-2 best defending inside paint duo in the whole league complimenting KG again?

Who?


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What I am saying is this team now just refuses to play great anymore. They still are and they still can do it.

It is just that they don't want to play and fight anymore. Say all the stats you want to, Perk not on the court Perk on the court, his production, before and after, etc etc, but definitely, as a matter of factly, believe all you want, but the Perk trade really affected badly everyone in this team.

They are throwing in the towel already. This playoff's gonna be short.



Well since you've managed to insult those who disagree with you, I'd like to ask you a few questions:

1)  Perkins was on the team, and healthy, the 2nd half of last season.  Why didn't that "special brotherhood" prevent the team from going .500 for that entire half??

2)  How did this "special brotherhood" benefit the Celtics the 1st half of this season when Perkins wasn't even on the court??

3)  How is it that with Shaq starting at center the Celtics were the 2nd best 5-man unit in the entire league??  

4)  What recent history can you show me that Shaq does not play, or is not healthy, in the playoffs??  He consistently sits our regular season games, but always shows up for the playoffs.  

I personally find it "pathetic" that you've given up on this team already.  You've jumped off the team wagon before 1 game of the playoffs have started, so I think you might as well relegate yourself to posting only in offseason and/or 2011-2012 threads.  
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+1

By some of the posters standards, you'd think this 'special brotherhood' brought us 4 championships already.  Just look at the mediocrity from last year when Perkins was around and their theory is wiped clean.
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Re: Dan Shaughnessy article on the "trade"
« Reply #80 on: April 17, 2011, 02:49:37 AM »

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To me, we have 4 of the supposed best players in the NBA, we really don't need some "5th guy" to rely on to win games.

We should be able to dominate regardless of who is playing that 5th spot.

Re: Dan Shaughnessy article on the "trade"
« Reply #81 on: April 17, 2011, 03:16:37 AM »

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Stop it with this perk stuff

its really driving me crazy and what i mean by stop it, i mean everyone from fans on here and analysts everywhere else

Perkins is not THAT GOOD, i like perk, but hes not as good as hes made out to be by media pundits and fans here and other teams

celtics do not need Perkins at ALL...Sheesh

The hawks just beat the magic who have the best center bar none by double digits at the magic With Jason Freakin Collins

Celtics problems the last part of the season had nothing to do with Perkins

Wow perkins is severly overated now

In the playoffs everything WILL even out

Just like How Boozer always sucks in the playoffs, it will even out here

Watch when the thunder struggle in the playoffs vs the nuggets and celtics destroy the knicks

people will be like oh but that is not supposed to happen, the thunder won that trade and the celtics destroyed there team by trading there center. smh at this stuff

it will happen because celtics did win that trade and even though perkins is good he will not push the thunder over the top


Re: Dan Shaughnessy article on the "trade"
« Reply #82 on: April 17, 2011, 07:28:50 AM »

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To me, we have 4 of the supposed best players in the NBA, we really don't need some "5th guy" to rely on to win games.

We should be able to dominate regardless of who is playing that 5th spot.

Extremely flawed reasoning. If that was true, Miami would have won 82 games.