If Rondo is the Future, the C's Are in Trouble

[LB3533]

See, I don't feel Rondo is the C's MVP.

The MVP of the C's is still Paul Pierce.

Rondo's not a guy who you can rely on for scoring. If Rajon doesn't have pieces to pass the rock to, he ain't gonna be an effective player out there a whole lot.

[Dunn]

Yeah Rondo was last year's Auerbach Award winner I think.

[Spicoli]

Rondo is too inconsistent for my liking. And besides, as a point guard in the NBA you must be able to put the ball in the hole. 

[IrishGreen]

Blah Blah..

Sick of these threads!

[PosImpos]

Remember when Rondo used to attack the tim with abandon?

Remember when Rondo used to occasionally get those offensive rebounds and slam them home?

Remember when Rondo used to push the ball hard and not stand and dribble the ball for 15-20 seconds at the top of the key?

 

Great reminders. Rondo’s problem isn’t his lack of ability, it’s his lack of effort. That is a THOUSAND times worse because it shows you the guys character. Selfishness isn’t a trait you want of your “cornerstone” of the future. Time to send him packing.

I agree with you; the Celtics need to rely on a player with a mentality like Derrick Rose (always humble, always trying to make the most of his God-given abilities, fighting to win every game no matter what).

[RedsCeltics34]

I wonder if Utah would have considered a Deron for Rondo type deal?, doubt it though. They got themselves a nice little package from New Jersey.

[CeltsAcumen]

Remember when Rondo used to attack the tim with abandon?

Remember when Rondo used to occasionally get those offensive rebounds and slam them home?

Remember when Rondo used to push the ball hard and not stand and dribble the ball for 15-20 seconds at the top of the key?

 

Great reminders. Rondo’s problem isn’t his lack of ability, it’s his lack of effort. That is a THOUSAND times worse because it shows you the guys character. Selfishness isn’t a trait you want of your “cornerstone” of the future. Time to send him packing.

I agree with you; the Celtics need to rely on a player with a mentality like Derrick Rose (always humble, always trying to make the most of his God-given abilities, fighting to win every game no matter what).

I dont know if I agree.  The Celtics traded away his best friend, his teammate and most likely a championship in middle of the night for nothing more than $$$ and a chance to possibly compete for the last playoff spot in 2014 and a 2018 2nd round pick.

I might not be too enthusiastic to play as well.

[Carhole]

Rondo IS the present. He's the best player on this team, and as Rondo goes, there goes the Celtics.

Of course he's not the best PG in the league, but he is the future of the Celtics. In a couple of years the Celtics will get a big man who can jump out of the gym, and a big scorer. Or maybe a big man who can jump and make jumpshots.

The Celtics are showing a poor attitude, and they are playing the worst ball of this season. Will they flip a switch? Doc has the key, and I'm confident he'll do the right thing in the playoffs.

Good night. Have fun until the playoffs start.

To say Rondo is presently a better player than Pierce, Garnett, and Allen is a huge insult to those guys.

He may not be playing like the best player, but he is this team's MVP. Pierce is the most talented, KG the best defender, and Ray the best shooter. But Rondo is the motor of this team.

I don't think that is even a little insult. That's what we learned last year. We'll see how it works out this year.

Please stop with this rondo is mvp foolishness. It just doesnt work that way. I read it on this board everyday, "when rondo plays well we are unstoppable so he is our MVP"

That is the most backwards logic ever. If that was the case then Rasheed Wallace was the MVP of the NBA for 6 years b/c if he showed up and played his best his teams were unbeatable.

When Rondo plays well we are so tough because our other (better players specifically PP and KG) are so consistent that Rondo pushes you over the top. That isnt an MVP. that is like saying that Derek Fisher is the Lakers MVP because when he played well and hit shots LA never lost.

Everyone loves his flash but he is inconsistent at many of the things he does well(defend and decision making)  and Wildly Inconsistent at the things he does poorly (score, make fts, attack the rim)

[Celtics Fan]

Get of his back.

[Lord_of_the17Rings]

Rondo is a fraud.  That is the best word I can think of for him.  He looks great in "certain conditions".  As long as he is pushing the ball up.  As long as guys are hitting their shots.  As long as the other team isn't daring him to shoot.  As long as he doesn't have to go to the foul line.  As long as his best friends are with him on the court.

I'm not sure there has been a Celtic I've disliked more since Employee #8, and at least his shortcomings were more about athleticism and basketball IQ.  Rondo is just about will and desire. (Oh yeah, and he's just not that skilled a ball player).  But I bet he would grade out fantastic in a scouting combine with his speed and leaping ability so he's got that going for him.

[Carhole]

Get of his back.

Why?
I am not even questioning his effort. I actually do think he has been trying the past couple of weeks.

But honestly this entire season Rondo fans have become every bit as irrational as Kobe fans when it comes to assessing his abilities.

[Dunn]

Rondo looks great in certain conditions, gee I bet he looks extra great with front court help. Maybe people would pick that up watching Baby and Krstic as to why he and Perk got along well. Deron Williams, who forced a hall of famer to retire, who struggled playing with a weak front court defender in Al Jefferson? Maybe you should ask Utah fans about their hate Deron compared to your hate of Rondo.

[KungPoweChicken]

Rondo is a fraud.  That is the best word I can think of for him.  He looks great in "certain conditions".  As long as he is pushing the ball up.  As long as guys are hitting their shots.  As long as the other team isn't daring him to shoot.  As long as he doesn't have to go to the foul line.  As long as his best friends are with him on the court.

I'm not sure there has been a Celtic I've disliked more since Employee #8, and at least his shortcomings were more about athleticism and basketball IQ.  Rondo is just about will and desire. (Oh yeah, and he's just not that skilled a ball player).  But I bet he would grade out fantastic in a scouting combine with his speed and leaping ability so he's got that going for him.

Leaping ability--I don't think I've seen Rondo dunk since opening night against Miami.

[MBz]

Rondo is a very talented point guard, but the only way his game works is if he has scorers around him. I don't think Rondo was the #1 issue yesterday though for as poor as he played.  Rondo is most effective in the transition, we get easy buckets by Rondo beating guys up the floor and then finding Pierce, Ray or whoever else is running with him.  For that to happen though we need to rebound, if you don't rebound you can't have a transition game.  -16 in rebounding is absolutely going to keep us from getting into a good flow.  KG was great offensively, but 4 rebounds? That's a joke.  Jermaine O'Neal played 14 minutes and couldn't grab a board on accident? Ridiculous.  This team is going to have to find ways to rebound and begin to push the tempo.  Right now, we're playing to the strengths of the wrong players.  This team without Shaq is an average half court team, if we have guys that can get the ball up and down the floor though.  Rondo, Ray, Pierce, Green, Krstic, Delonte, Wafer, even KG to some extent all run the floor extremely well.  I'm not saying I want Mike D'Antoni, but pushing the ball might give this team some more desire to play again.

[Senninsage]

I don't need to see the playoffs start to know this. The Celtics are in trouble if they are relying on Rondo to be their best player. It's so basic and common sense, you would think the Celtics themselves would see this themselves.

They are headed for a major upset in the first round of the playoffs playing like this, relying so much on rondo. There's no doubt in my mind.

They should rely on the three that made this team a championship contender in the first place, the Big Three. By relying on rondo we are limiting the talent of not just the big three, but the other offensively talented players on our team.