Patriots 2011 Regular Season

[PosImpos]

Edelman charged with indecent assault:

By Brian R. Ballou and John R. Ellement, Globe Staff


New England Patriots wide receiver Julian Edelman is due in Boston Municipal Court today where he will be arraigned on charges of indecent assault and battery on a woman, Suffolk District Attorney Daniel F. Conley’s office said.

Boston police spokeswoman Elaine Driscoll said officers were called to the Storyville nightclub on Exeter Street in the Back Bay around 1:30 a.m. today to investigate reports of an assault.

After police spoke with the female victim, Edelman was arrested on a single count of indecent assault and battery, Driscoll said. Edelman was taken into custody but later posted bail and released by police.

Driscoll said out of respect for the confidentiality of the information the victim supplied to police, she would not provide specific details of the allegation against Edelman.

In a report on the case, Boston police said Edelman was inside the nightclub on Halloween night when he allegedly reached underneath the woman’s costume and groped her below the waist.

A man who was with the woman told police that a man – later identified as Edelman – bumped into the woman on the dance floor. “He saw the victim’s face change into an expression of shock,’’ police said in the report.

The man then confronted Edelman on the dance floor and “threatened to beat him up’’ while the woman tried to calm him down, police said. The man and the woman were ejected, followed by Edelman, police said.

The man and the woman and Edelman were thrown out of the nightclub by bouncers to calm the situation, police were told by nightclub staff.

When police arrived, Edelman denied groping the woman, police said.

However, after the man and woman positively identified him, Edelman was charged with indecent assault and battery.

Edelman, 25, is a reserve wide receiver and a kick returner. He has been with the Patriots for three seasons. He was inactive in last Sunday’s loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Maybe Pats should've kept Brandon Tate instead?
 

Yeah, indeed.  Tate has been performing quite well for the Bengals as a punt returner (returned one for a TD on Sunday).

Neither has done much actual receiving this season, though.

[cman88]

O'Brien wants more Price in offense

By Chris Forsberg

Could Taylor Price see an increased role moving forward?
Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien said Tuesday that he'd like to get wide receiver Taylor Price more snaps in the offense moving forward.

"He's practiced well," said O'Brien. "We need to get him in there more. He's done a good job in practice and he's a guy we gotta give some more reps to in the game."

Pressed on how that might happen, O'Brien noted, "We're figuring all of that out right now. You'll see that on Sunday."

this is good news but unsurprising IMO....Bill parcells dubbed Price as the pats "breakout player this year" before the season, and he looked good in the pre-season....I think signing Ocho stunted his growth thus far. but ochos been a bust and its time to give opportunities to price for that #3 receiver option

most of the big threats out there have speedy young receivers and Price has potential to be a deep sideline threat...something the pats could use...Branch/Ocho cant get separation one on one and a deep threat would open up the field in the middle for welker/TE's

[slamdunk]

Pats cut Leigh Bodden.  That was a dud of a FA signing.

From PFT:

Pats cut Leigh Bodden

Posted by Mike Florio on October 28, 2011, 11:06 AM EDT
 
APThe Leigh Bodden era in New England abruptly has ended.

A league source with knowledge of the situation advises PFT that the Patriots have released Bodden, an eight-year veteran.

Bodden was in the second season of a four-year, $22 million contract.  Per the source, the player and the team decided that the relationship wasn’t working out as planned, and that it was time to move on.  He appeared in five games with one start this season.

Bodden has a base salary of $3.9 million in 2011.  Since the trade deadline has passed, he’ll be subject to waivers.  If claimed, his new team would absorb the balance, which is $2.064 million.  (He’ll be paid by the Patriots for Week Eight, even though he has been cut.)  If he’s not claimed, Bodden will be entitled to receive the balance of his salary via the termination pay provision of the CBA.

Coincidentally, PFT posted news of the release on Twitter just as coach Bill Belichick was conducting a press conference.  Asked about the report, he reportedly said that the team doesn’t have an announcement to make at this time.  But Belichick also said he’ll “skip” a question about how Bodden has been playing.

In other words, “Bon voyage, Bodden.”

   

Yeah, the Pats seem to always shank it on the big name FA signings.  On the other hand, they do relatively well with the no name FA signings.  In any case, the Pats D is quite thin right now.

Felger&Maz touched on this yesterday on the radio. For all the trading down they do in the draft,(33 players picked over the past 3 years) they haven't gotten a lot out of it.

[Cman]

Pats cut Leigh Bodden.  That was a dud of a FA signing.

From PFT:

Pats cut Leigh Bodden

Posted by Mike Florio on October 28, 2011, 11:06 AM EDT
 
APThe Leigh Bodden era in New England abruptly has ended.

A league source with knowledge of the situation advises PFT that the Patriots have released Bodden, an eight-year veteran.

Bodden was in the second season of a four-year, $22 million contract.  Per the source, the player and the team decided that the relationship wasn’t working out as planned, and that it was time to move on.  He appeared in five games with one start this season.

Bodden has a base salary of $3.9 million in 2011.  Since the trade deadline has passed, he’ll be subject to waivers.  If claimed, his new team would absorb the balance, which is $2.064 million.  (He’ll be paid by the Patriots for Week Eight, even though he has been cut.)  If he’s not claimed, Bodden will be entitled to receive the balance of his salary via the termination pay provision of the CBA.

Coincidentally, PFT posted news of the release on Twitter just as coach Bill Belichick was conducting a press conference.  Asked about the report, he reportedly said that the team doesn’t have an announcement to make at this time.  But Belichick also said he’ll “skip” a question about how Bodden has been playing.

In other words, “Bon voyage, Bodden.”

   

Yeah, the Pats seem to always shank it on the big name FA signings.  On the other hand, they do relatively well with the no name FA signings.  In any case, the Pats D is quite thin right now.

Felger&Maz touched on this yesterday on the radio. For all the trading down they do in the draft,(33 players picked over the past 3 years) they haven't gotten a lot out of it.

Well, that's a separate issue. If you believe it, then it means they shank on BOTH the big name FA signings and on the draft.

[cman88]

the thing is, I would think if you looked at other teams drafts and how many have stuck I would think there would be a similar failure rate.

the thing with the draft is that it is mostly a crapshoot...sure there are some guys who you know will be NFL ready, but for the most part good-or-bad its a big question mark...

[Donoghus]

Pats cut Haynesworth.  That was a failure.

The Albert Haynesworth era in New England has come to an end.

In a surprising roster move today, the Patriots have decided to cut Haynesworth, the defensive tackle they acquired in August in a trade with the Washington Redskins.

Ian R. Rapoport of the Boston Herald, who first reported the move, notes that the decision to jettison Haynesworth comes two days after a sideline confrontation with defensive line coach Pepper Johnson.

The sudden end for Haynesworth is reminiscent of the Patriots’ decision last year to trade Randy Moss. The difference, of course, is that Moss had great success in New England before wearing out his welcome. Haynesworth has been nothing but a disappointment for the Patriots.

Now we’ll see whether any other team wants Haynesworth, or if the entire NFL comes to the conclusion that Mike Shanahan and Bill Belichick have both come to: That Haynesworth is more trouble than he’s worth.

[Fafnir]

They haven't restocked through the draft and have tried to paper over the cracks with low cost risky moves, hasn't worked out.

[Donoghus]

They haven't restocked through the draft and have tried to paper over the cracks with low cost risky moves, hasn't worked out.

They restocked the offense alright but I agree that the defense has been a pretty big problem when its come to recent drafts.

[Fafnir]

They haven't restocked through the draft and have tried to paper over the cracks with low cost risky moves, hasn't worked out.

They restocked the offense alright but I agree that the defense has been a pretty big problem when its come to recent drafts.

They haven't restocked anything on offense so far. They've gotten some complimentry pieces that Brady makes look amazing.

The similarities between Colts/Pats and Brady/Manning continue in the arc of the talent on their teams. Brady had a big initial advantage in the early 2000s but now that group of players has moved on (amazing how 4 years will turn over most of an NFL roster) and its leveled off.

[CDawg834]

Pats cut Haynesworth.  That was a failure.

The Albert Haynesworth era in New England has come to an end.

In a surprising roster move today, the Patriots have decided to cut Haynesworth, the defensive tackle they acquired in August in a trade with the Washington Redskins.

Ian R. Rapoport of the Boston Herald, who first reported the move, notes that the decision to jettison Haynesworth comes two days after a sideline confrontation with defensive line coach Pepper Johnson.

The sudden end for Haynesworth is reminiscent of the Patriots’ decision last year to trade Randy Moss. The difference, of course, is that Moss had great success in New England before wearing out his welcome. Haynesworth has been nothing but a disappointment for the Patriots.

Now we’ll see whether any other team wants Haynesworth, or if the entire NFL comes to the conclusion that Mike Shanahan and Bill Belichick have both come to: That Haynesworth is more trouble than he’s worth.

What a complete failure this pickup was.  He made no contributions of note, and clearly brought his bad attitude to New England with him.  I'd be shocked if anyone else picks him up.

After Sunday's game, I had a feeling someone would be made an example of.  If Taylor Price can get healthy, I wouldn't be surprised if Ochocino or Edelman were next.

[Donoghus]

They haven't restocked through the draft and have tried to paper over the cracks with low cost risky moves, hasn't worked out.

They restocked the offense alright but I agree that the defense has been a pretty big problem when its come to recent drafts.

They haven't restocked anything on offense so far. They've gotten some complimentry pieces that Brady makes look amazing.

The similarities between Colts/Pats and Brady/Manning continue in the arc of the talent on their teams. Brady had a big initial advantage in the early 2000s but now that group of players has moved on (amazing how 4 years will turn over most of an NFL roster) and its leveled off.

Look at the last three drafts on the offensive side;  Hernandez, Gronkowski, Vollmer, Solder. Ridley has shown some promise too. 

They revamped that offense from what it was in the Moss days and the dropoff hasn't been much.  Gronkowski is having a Pro Bowl caliber season. 

They've certainly down an adequate job on the offensive side of things in recent drafts. 

[Fafnir]

They haven't restocked through the draft and have tried to paper over the cracks with low cost risky moves, hasn't worked out.

They restocked the offense alright but I agree that the defense has been a pretty big problem when its come to recent drafts.

They haven't restocked anything on offense so far. They've gotten some complimentry pieces that Brady makes look amazing.

The similarities between Colts/Pats and Brady/Manning continue in the arc of the talent on their teams. Brady had a big initial advantage in the early 2000s but now that group of players has moved on (amazing how 4 years will turn over most of an NFL roster) and its leveled off.

Look at the last three drafts on the offensive side;  Hernandez, Gronkowski, Vollmer, Solder. Ridley has shown some promise too. 

They revamped that offense from what it was in the Moss days and the dropoff hasn't been much.  Gronkowski is having a Pro Bowl caliber season. 

They've certainly down an adequate job on the offensive side of things in recent drafts. 

I don't think the two TEs are nearly as good as their fantasy value and place in the offense (and Brady) makes them appear.

They have done well with the two linemen, I can't say I know enough to grade them (O-Linemen are impossible for laymen to judge unless they're terrible imo) and they're pretty universally praised.

[Rondo2287]

They haven't restocked through the draft and have tried to paper over the cracks with low cost risky moves, hasn't worked out.

They restocked the offense alright but I agree that the defense has been a pretty big problem when its come to recent drafts.

They haven't restocked anything on offense so far. They've gotten some complimentry pieces that Brady makes look amazing.

The similarities between Colts/Pats and Brady/Manning continue in the arc of the talent on their teams. Brady had a big initial advantage in the early 2000s but now that group of players has moved on (amazing how 4 years will turn over most of an NFL roster) and its leveled off.

Look at the last three drafts on the offensive side;  Hernandez, Gronkowski, Vollmer, Solder. Ridley has shown some promise too. 

They revamped that offense from what it was in the Moss days and the dropoff hasn't been much.  Gronkowski is having a Pro Bowl caliber season. 

They've certainly down an adequate job on the offensive side of things in recent drafts. 

I don't think the two TEs are nearly as good as their fantasy value and place in the offense (and Brady) makes them appear.

They have done well with the two linemen, I can't say I know enough to grade them (O-Linemen are impossible for laymen to judge unless they're terrible imo) and they're pretty universally praised.

You really dont think that Gronk or Hernandez are as good as their fantasy value show?  Hernandez is a matchup nightmare for any team and Gronk is on pace to become one of the best TE's of all time with regards to catching the ball.  He is also instrumental in setting up the run get for BJGE

[Fafnir]

You really dont think that Gronk or Hernandez are as good as their fantasy value show?  Hernandez is a matchup nightmare for any team and Gronk is on pace to become one of the best TE's of all time with regards to catching the ball.  He is also instrumental in setting up the run get for BJGE

Yeah I don't think they're as amazing as many here rate them for three reasons.

1. They play with Tom Brady, which pumps up their stats
2. They play in NE's pass happy offense, again pumping up stats
3. NE only has 1 WR that's a big time threat (Welker). This has lead to using them as defacto WRs fairly often. When graded as WRs their stats become less "HoF pace" and more just good.

[Donoghus]

You really dont think that Gronk or Hernandez are as good as their fantasy value show?  Hernandez is a matchup nightmare for any team and Gronk is on pace to become one of the best TE's of all time with regards to catching the ball.  He is also instrumental in setting up the run get for BJGE

I think Gronk has the ability to be something really special.  Belichick has finally found his Bavaro.  He's as complete tight end as you'll see in the league and he's only in his second season.

He certainly has the ability to eclipse Ben Coates as the greatest TE in Pats history. 

Hernandez is heckuva talent also but I think his ceiling is a lot lower than Gronk.  His hands and blocking aren't nearly as good but he presents a matchup hell for defenses because of his quickness and agility.