Green interested in re-signing with Celtics

[Fafnir]

In the new CBA, if there is a hard cap, we have 0% chance of resigning him.  We will flat out not be able to afford it.

Maybe, if there is a hard cap then it will be a pretty high one. Also the player's union is committed to preserving some form of bird rights, if those are still around we can keep Green.

What teams have cap room to try and sign him?

Yeah you are right.. if they set the hard cap higher then 70 mil we have a chance, I have no idea if that is even in the vicinity of what they are talking tho.

And as far as I can tell, about 80% of the league has more cap space then us this summer.

That's not true, most teams actually have 0 cap space, just like the Celtics.

Only a few are projected to have cap space to spend.

[droponov]

The Celtics don't need to build around Rondo and Pierce in 2012, let alone Green.

Overpaying for players like Green is always a bad idea unless the player is the last piece on a championship team. Other than that, it's never a positive.

[hpantazo]

The Celtics don't need to build around Rondo and Pierce in 2012, let alone Green.

Overpaying for players like Green is always a bad idea unless the player is the last piece on a championship team. Other than that, it's never a positive.

that depends on if you see Green as the next Pierce or the next Ricky Davis. He's got the talent to be the next Pierce, and he will have the coaching from Doc now too, and you can lock him up for less than what players like Piece would make because he's not proven himself yet.

[barefacedmonk]

Didn't he reject an offer from OKC before he was traded here? I'd read he wanted 10 million/yr. Danny will have to try and bring that figure down quite a bit if JG is to remain a Celitc.

[hpantazo]

Didn't he reject an offer from OKC before he was traded here? I'd read he wanted 10 million/yr. Danny will have to try and bring that figure down quite a bit if JG is to remain a Celitc.

the new CBO might bring that figure down significantly by itself

[droponov]

The Celtics don't need to build around Rondo and Pierce in 2012, let alone Green.

Overpaying for players like Green is always a bad idea unless the player is the last piece on a championship team. Other than that, it's never a positive.

that depends on if you see Green as the next Pierce or the next Ricky Davis. He's got the talent to be the next Pierce, and he will have the coaching from Doc now too, and you can lock him up for less than what players like Piece would make because he's not proven himself yet.

Are you his agent? That's the kind of statement I'd expect from him.

If he has the talent to be the next Pierce, he'll destroy teams off the bench this playoffs. For how long have you followed the Celtics? When Pierce was on his 4th season, he was posting 26/7/4 and being the best player in a Conference Finals team. An All-NBA player and arguably the best SF in the league.

Green is a role-player who may develop into a quality starter. But the next Pierce? If there's a single GM who agrees with you, the next Pierce will be playing out of Boston, because I don't see Ainge matching the contract that a next Pierce would be worth of. Green doesn't have the potential, the talent, to be a player of Pierce's level.

[cman88]

Green is only 24, just like rondo. He's athletic has alot of potential to improve his game. its all about the system and how much work he puts in..just like Rondo will only get better.

lets not forget, he was a 3rd option behind Westbrook/durant in OKC...averaging 15points.

Rondo, pierce, green is a nice starting point to build with....alot of people discount Rondo's value to luring free agents...part of the reason guys like shaq, murphy chose boston was because of rondos passing ability to find the open man...and if Ray's game doesnt decline, might as well keep him too for cheap

Rondo, ray, pierce, Green, D12

thats a championship starting lineup right there.

[Bankshot]

The Celtics don't need to build around Rondo and Pierce in 2012, let alone Green.

Overpaying for players like Green is always a bad idea unless the player is the last piece on a championship team. Other than that, it's never a positive.

that depends on if you see Green as the next Pierce or the next Ricky Davis. He's got the talent to be the next Pierce, and he will have the coaching from Doc now too, and you can lock him up for less than what players like Piece would make because he's not proven himself yet.

Are you his agent? That's the kind of statement I'd expect from him.

If he has the talent to be the next Pierce, he'll destroy teams off the bench this playoffs. For how long have you followed the Celtics? When Pierce was on his 4th season, he was posting 26/7/4 and being the best player in a Conference Finals team. An All-NBA player and arguably the best SF in the league.

Green is a role-player who may develop into a quality starter. But the next Pierce? If there's a single GM who agrees with you, the next Pierce will be playing out of Boston, because I don't see Ainge matching the contract that a next Pierce would be worth of. Green doesn't have the potential, the talent, to be a player of Pierce's level.

Pierce was the #1 option in the offense though.  OKC features Durant and Westbrook and Green still scored 15 pts a game.

[Datruthtakesover34]

celts gonna get durant

[Carhole]

The Celtics don't need to build around Rondo and Pierce in 2012, let alone Green.

Overpaying for players like Green is always a bad idea unless the player is the last piece on a championship team. Other than that, it's never a positive.

that depends on if you see Green as the next Pierce or the next Ricky Davis. He's got the talent to be the next Pierce, and he will have the coaching from Doc now too, and you can lock him up for less than what players like Piece would make because he's not proven himself yet.

Are you his agent? That's the kind of statement I'd expect from him.

If he has the talent to be the next Pierce, he'll destroy teams off the bench this playoffs. For how long have you followed the Celtics? When Pierce was on his 4th season, he was posting 26/7/4 and being the best player in a Conference Finals team. An All-NBA player and arguably the best SF in the league.

Green is a role-player who may develop into a quality starter. But the next Pierce? If there's a single GM who agrees with you, the next Pierce will be playing out of Boston, because I don't see Ainge matching the contract that a next Pierce would be worth of. Green doesn't have the potential, the talent, to be a player of Pierce's level.

In fairness, 5 years ago there were people on here saying to trade PP because Gerald Green has the potential to do what PP does....hahahahaha oh good times!

At least this Green is getting closer

[droponov]

The Celtics don't need to build around Rondo and Pierce in 2012, let alone Green.

Overpaying for players like Green is always a bad idea unless the player is the last piece on a championship team. Other than that, it's never a positive.

that depends on if you see Green as the next Pierce or the next Ricky Davis. He's got the talent to be the next Pierce, and he will have the coaching from Doc now too, and you can lock him up for less than what players like Piece would make because he's not proven himself yet.

Are you his agent? That's the kind of statement I'd expect from him.

If he has the talent to be the next Pierce, he'll destroy teams off the bench this playoffs. For how long have you followed the Celtics? When Pierce was on his 4th season, he was posting 26/7/4 and being the best player in a Conference Finals team. An All-NBA player and arguably the best SF in the league.

Green is a role-player who may develop into a quality starter. But the next Pierce? If there's a single GM who agrees with you, the next Pierce will be playing out of Boston, because I don't see Ainge matching the contract that a next Pierce would be worth of. Green doesn't have the potential, the talent, to be a player of Pierce's level.

Pierce was the #1 option in the offense though.  OKC features Durant and Westbrook and Green still scored 15 pts a game.

Yeah, and and in spite of that he couldn't even score those 15 points efficiently. Imagine if he was asked to be the first option for his team, with the defense focusing on him and the need to create his own shot instead of playing off others. He'd probably need to take every shot in the 48 minutes to get to that 26ppg mark.

[snively]

Unless, he makes a sudden leap, I’d be very hesitant to commit more than $5-6 mil per to Jeff Green.  He had 3.5 years of big minutes to audition as a core member of the Thunder.  The verdict: they traded him, their starting center, a nice potential late lottery pick and took on Nate’s 4.5 mil next year just to get Kendrick Perkins, a slightly above average starting center coming off major knee surgery.  That doesn’t speak very highly of Jeff Green’s value.  And a lot of the league seems to think we overpaid.
So, as of the market’s most recent assessment, Jeff Green’s $ value = Perkins – mid-first round pick – ½ season of Krstic – Nate’s contract.  To me that means we should be able to hang on to Green for quite a bit less than what Perk got, unless someone out there loves him a lot more than Presti or Ainge.  In the Celtics, he also faces a stingy employer who can’t afford to be generous with 3 more years of Pierce at big money and the FA class of 2012 looming.         

[droponov]

Green as the 3rd option in OKC used to take 12.6 shots per game. That number was 13.7 two seasons ago and 13.0 last year.

This season, Pierce leads the Celtics in FGA per game, with 13. Ray Allen takes 12.8 shots per game and Garnett 11.9.

So being a 3rd option/lack of scoring opportunities wasn't exactly preventing Green from posting better numbers, as some seem to believe. He had the possessions to use, the green light to take shots - a lot more than he'll have in Boston for the foreseeable future - but he just couldn't hit them at a good enough rate.

[RJ87]

The Celtics don't need to build around Rondo and Pierce in 2012, let alone Green.

Overpaying for players like Green is always a bad idea unless the player is the last piece on a championship team. Other than that, it's never a positive.

that depends on if you see Green as the next Pierce or the next Ricky Davis. He's got the talent to be the next Pierce, and he will have the coaching from Doc now too, and you can lock him up for less than what players like Piece would make because he's not proven himself yet.

Are you his agent? That's the kind of statement I'd expect from him.

If he has the talent to be the next Pierce, he'll destroy teams off the bench this playoffs. For how long have you followed the Celtics? When Pierce was on his 4th season, he was posting 26/7/4 and being the best player in a Conference Finals team. An All-NBA player and arguably the best SF in the league.

Green is a role-player who may develop into a quality starter. But the next Pierce? If there's a single GM who agrees with you, the next Pierce will be playing out of Boston, because I don't see Ainge matching the contract that a next Pierce would be worth of. Green doesn't have the potential, the talent, to be a player of Pierce's level.

Pierce was the #1 option in the offense though.  OKC features Durant and Westbrook and Green still scored 15 pts a game.

I think Green has tons of potential, but his growth was stunted by being played out of position as PF. Would he have flourished if he could've spent the majority of his minutes at SF? I'm not claiming to know that, but's a valid question when considering his value.

[Celtics4ever]

He shoots .44% low for a PF or SF really but he was often playing peeps bigger than him that could affect this shot picture.  There are a lot of 6-11 PF these days which I could see giving a 6-9 trouble.  Durant plays SF for them so he got the nice and easy 6-7 guys to shoot over.

I think they are going to rue this trade.  Both Perk and Nate are hurt.   I think we got the better end of this deal hands down.