Green interested in re-signing with Celtics

[Chris]

It probably will depend on how good Green and his agent think he is.  If they are under the impression that Green is a can't miss allstar in the future, it's not going to be worth it to try to sign him.  Green has been in the league for a while and still hasn't found his niche, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

As long as he is still a RFA under the new CBA, the market is going to determine his value.  He may think he is a superstar in the making, but if no other teams think it, then he will at least be on the C's for 1 more year.

[wdleehi]

It probably will depend on how good Green and his agent think he is.  If they are under the impression that Green is a can't miss allstar in the future, it's not going to be worth it to try to sign him.  Green has been in the league for a while and still hasn't found his niche, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

As long as he is still a RFA under the new CBA, the market is going to determine his value.  He may think he is a superstar in the making, but if no other teams think it, then he will at least be on the C's for 1 more year.

I agree with that.


That year is one of the reason's I think the Celtics make this trade.  It keeps 2012 flexibility. 

[moiso]

It probably will depend on how good Green and his agent think he is.  If they are under the impression that Green is a can't miss allstar in the future, it's not going to be worth it to try to sign him.  Green has been in the league for a while and still hasn't found his niche, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

At last report, they thought they were good enough to ask for 10 million a year. 

Under the current CBA, he isn't worth nearly that yet.

[Fafnir]

It probably will depend on how good Green and his agent think he is.  If they are under the impression that Green is a can't miss allstar in the future, it's not going to be worth it to try to sign him.  Green has been in the league for a while and still hasn't found his niche, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

At last report, they thought they were good enough to ask for 10 million a year. 

Under the current CBA, he isn't worth nearly that yet.

Rodney Stuckey's agent was quoted as saying Stuckey is worth "at least as much as Rondo. That's a starting point for his contract..." last year.

Agent's always try to blow sunshine up the media's but about a players worth, especially before RFA.

BBD was supposed to get full MLE deals remember? Instead no one would offer him anything much greater than the 4-6 million over two that the C's did.

[Chris]

It probably will depend on how good Green and his agent think he is.  If they are under the impression that Green is a can't miss allstar in the future, it's not going to be worth it to try to sign him.  Green has been in the league for a while and still hasn't found his niche, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

At last report, they thought they were good enough to ask for 10 million a year. 

Under the current CBA, he isn't worth nearly that yet.

Rodney Stuckey's agent was quoted as saying Stuckey is worth "at least as much as Rondo. That's a starting point for his contract..." last year.

Agent's always try to blow sunshine up the media's but about a players worth, especially before RFA.

BBD was supposed to get full MLE deals remember? Instead no one would offer him anything much greater than the 4-6 million over two that the C's did.

I believe Rondo's agent also said that he deserved the Max.

If Green's agent is saying he wants $10 million, thats a good sign, because generally if you guy 1/3 off of what they are asking for to find what they will actually get.

[celticinorlando]

i hope so..he should be looked at as the guy taking over at SF

[mgent]

I'll say it again, spending 8-10 million on a guy who will play behind Pierce (already under contract) is a ridiculously dumb idea.

Wdleehi is correct, you need to get your core together FIRST.  Otherwise you get stuck above the cap and you don't have enough to build around.  Worry about role players that will down the road replace Pierce DOWN THE ROAD.

It's not like we're even talking about wasting cap space on someone to replace Ray or KG who are actually coming off the books.  Why is this even a discussion?

[hpantazo]

I'll say it again, spending 8-10 million on a guy who will play behind Pierce (already under contract) is a ridiculously dumb idea.

Wdleehi is correct, you need to get your core together FIRST.  Otherwise you get stuck above the cap and you don't have enough to build around.  Worry about role players that will down the road replace Pierce DOWN THE ROAD.

It's not like we're even talking about wasting cap space on someone to replace Ray or KG who are actually coming off the books.  Why is this even a discussion?

Green isn't going to be playing behind Pierce 2 years from now. Pierce has already said last summer that he would be likely coming off the bench toward the end of his time with the celtics. Pierce would be our 6th man, Green would be the starting SF and a go-to guy to pair with Rondo. I would do it, he's a superstar in the making getting taught at the moment be the best, Pierce and KG. He already said KG's intensity is rubbing off on him.

[mgent]

I'll say it again, spending 8-10 million on a guy who will play behind Pierce (already under contract) is a ridiculously dumb idea.

Wdleehi is correct, you need to get your core together FIRST.  Otherwise you get stuck above the cap and you don't have enough to build around.  Worry about role players that will down the road replace Pierce DOWN THE ROAD.

It's not like we're even talking about wasting cap space on someone to replace Ray or KG who are actually coming off the books.  Why is this even a discussion?

Green isn't going to be playing behind Pierce 2 years from now. Pierce has already said last summer that he would be likely coming off the bench toward the end of his time with the celtics. Pierce would be our 6th man, Green would be the starting SF and a go-to guy to pair with Rondo. I would do it, he's a superstar in the making getting taught at the moment be the best, Pierce and KG. He already said KG's intensity is rubbing off on him.

Um hello?  We're trying to build a championship team here.  We don't have the luxury of paying 15mil for a bench player when there's only a limited amount of cap space.

[LooseCannon]

Ainge sees Green as a core guy.  He certainly sees Green as having a much better chance of being one of your core stars than Kendrick Perkins.  Failing that, he sees Green as a trade asset who can be used in a deal for a core guy.

[hpantazo]

I'll say it again, spending 8-10 million on a guy who will play behind Pierce (already under contract) is a ridiculously dumb idea.

Wdleehi is correct, you need to get your core together FIRST.  Otherwise you get stuck above the cap and you don't have enough to build around.  Worry about role players that will down the road replace Pierce DOWN THE ROAD.

It's not like we're even talking about wasting cap space on someone to replace Ray or KG who are actually coming off the books.  Why is this even a discussion?

Green isn't going to be playing behind Pierce 2 years from now. Pierce has already said last summer that he would be likely coming off the bench toward the end of his time with the celtics. Pierce would be our 6th man, Green would be the starting SF and a go-to guy to pair with Rondo. I would do it, he's a superstar in the making getting taught at the moment be the best, Pierce and KG. He already said KG's intensity is rubbing off on him.

Um hello?  We're trying to build a championship team here.  We don't have the luxury of paying 15mil for a bench player when there's only a limited amount of cap space.

You should have told that to Ainge when he gave Pierce his deal. The thing is, Wyc I'm sure didn't give Ainge many options, he loves Pierce and would never let him go. Pierce will not be starting the last 2 years of his deal here, and he knows it.

[incoherent]

In the new CBA, if there is a hard cap, we have 0% chance of resigning him.  We will flat out not be able to afford it.

[Fafnir]

In the new CBA, if there is a hard cap, we have 0% chance of resigning him.  We will flat out not be able to afford it.

Maybe, if there is a hard cap then it will be a pretty high one. Also the player's union is committed to preserving some form of bird rights, if those are still around we can keep Green.

What teams have cap room to try and sign him?

[incoherent]

In the new CBA, if there is a hard cap, we have 0% chance of resigning him.  We will flat out not be able to afford it.

Maybe, if there is a hard cap then it will be a pretty high one. Also the player's union is committed to preserving some form of bird rights, if those are still around we can keep Green.

What teams have cap room to try and sign him?

Yeah you are right.. if they set the hard cap higher then 70 mil we have a chance, I have no idea if that is even in the vicinity of what they are talking tho.

And as far as I can tell, about 80% of the league has more cap space then us this summer.

[BballTim]

In the new CBA, if there is a hard cap, we have 0% chance of resigning him.  We will flat out not be able to afford it.

  A hard cap would mean, what, that most of the contenders would have to unload starters to get under it?