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Re: Green interested in re-signing with Celtics
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2011, 10:26:37 AM »

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Looks like we got merged into the wrong thread hehe.
I'm going to invoke the Shaggy defense.

Re: Green interested in re-signing with Celtics
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2011, 10:33:39 AM »

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saying you wouldn't sign Jeff Green because you don't have you're franchise player yet makes no sense to me. What is supposed to attract Dwight Howard here if we don't have more than Rondo and an Aging PP here ? Seriously that makes no sense whatsoever to me .

Obviously Danny is going to see what the new Salary Cap is before doing anything , but Green will at least make around 8 mil under the current CBA . And who cares if he is a backup for the next few years , he can learn under PP and KG while keeping their mins down ,and do you really think none of KG and PP'S emotion and determination will rub off on Green?

It is very possible that the c's would be able to sign Green to a reasonable contract(8-10 mil) and still have room to add a max player .


Re: Green interested in re-signing with Celtics
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2011, 10:35:23 AM »

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saying you wouldn't sign Jeff Green because you don't have you're franchise player yet makes no sense to me. What is supposed to attract Dwight Howard here if we don't have more than Rondo and an Aging PP here ? Seriously that makes no sense whatsoever to me .

Obviously Danny is going to see what the new Salary Cap is before doing anything , but he will at least make in the 8 mil under the current CBA . And who cares if he is a backup for the next few years , he can learn under PP and KG , do you really think none of their emotion and determination will rub off on Green?

It is very possible that the c's would be able to sign Green to a reasonable contract(8-10 mil) and still have room to add a max player .



It is more then just attracting other FA.


It is about being bad enough to land in the locations where you are most likely to draft the impact stars you need. 


Cheap potential and cap room, stuff that NBA trades are made up of. 

Re: Green interested in re-signing with Celtics
« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2011, 10:38:04 AM »

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saying you wouldn't sign Jeff Green because you don't have you're franchise player yet makes no sense to me. What is supposed to attract Dwight Howard here if we don't have more than Rondo and an Aging PP here ? Seriously that makes no sense whatsoever to me .

Obviously Danny is going to see what the new Salary Cap is before doing anything , but he will at least make in the 8 mil under the current CBA . And who cares if he is a backup for the next few years , he can learn under PP and KG , do you really think none of their emotion and determination will rub off on Green?

It is very possible that the c's would be able to sign Green to a reasonable contract(8-10 mil) and still have room to add a max player .



It is more then just attracting other FA.


It is about being bad enough to land in the locations where you are most likely to draft the impact stars you need. 


Cheap potential and cap room, stuff that NBA trades are made up of. 

unfortunately Rondo alone keeps us from being bad enough to land a top 5 pick

Re: Green interested in re-signing with Celtics
« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2011, 10:41:40 AM »

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saying you wouldn't sign Jeff Green because you don't have you're franchise player yet makes no sense to me. What is supposed to attract Dwight Howard here if we don't have more than Rondo and an Aging PP here ? Seriously that makes no sense whatsoever to me .

Obviously Danny is going to see what the new Salary Cap is before doing anything , but he will at least make in the 8 mil under the current CBA . And who cares if he is a backup for the next few years , he can learn under PP and KG , do you really think none of their emotion and determination will rub off on Green?

It is very possible that the c's would be able to sign Green to a reasonable contract(8-10 mil) and still have room to add a max player .



It is more then just attracting other FA.


It is about being bad enough to land in the locations where you are most likely to draft the impact stars you need. 


Cheap potential and cap room, stuff that NBA trades are made up of. 

unfortunately Rondo alone keeps us from being bad enough to land a top 5 pick


I don't think so.  Pierce and KG were not good enough to prevent their teams. 


More to the point, Rondo needs someone with him.  Someone who can always make the other team pay when Rondo puts the pass on the button. 


But Rondo with good players around him, that team will likely overachieve regular season and not add the talent it needs to win titles. 

Re: Green interested in re-signing with Celtics
« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2011, 10:43:44 AM »

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saying you wouldn't sign Jeff Green because you don't have you're franchise player yet makes no sense to me. What is supposed to attract Dwight Howard here if we don't have more than Rondo and an Aging PP here ? Seriously that makes no sense whatsoever to me .

Obviously Danny is going to see what the new Salary Cap is before doing anything , but he will at least make in the 8 mil under the current CBA . And who cares if he is a backup for the next few years , he can learn under PP and KG , do you really think none of their emotion and determination will rub off on Green?

It is very possible that the c's would be able to sign Green to a reasonable contract(8-10 mil) and still have room to add a max player .



It is more then just attracting other FA.


It is about being bad enough to land in the locations where you are most likely to draft the impact stars you need.  


Cheap potential and cap room, stuff that NBA trades are made up of.  

so you're plan is to let green walk and stink enough to get into the draft lottery ?

What if Green helps us win a championship this year and shows that he is learning under PP and KG. This kid is very athletic and has a versatile offensive game, I don't see the rush in getting rid of him before seeing what he can really do in a big game.


Waiting around hoping to get lucky in the draft seems like the c's from 04-07 . Why would you want to waste Rondo's prime years waiting for draft picks to develop when you already have a super athletic potential future all-star(Ray Allen has even said this) that already has 4 years of experience ?


and there is no way D Howard will come here if our plan is to get lucky in the draft and hopefully surround him with future stars that will take 3-5 years to develop .

Sorry not with you on this one

Re: Green interested in re-signing with Celtics
« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2011, 10:47:49 AM »

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saying you wouldn't sign Jeff Green because you don't have you're franchise player yet makes no sense to me. What is supposed to attract Dwight Howard here if we don't have more than Rondo and an Aging PP here ? Seriously that makes no sense whatsoever to me .

Obviously Danny is going to see what the new Salary Cap is before doing anything , but he will at least make in the 8 mil under the current CBA . And who cares if he is a backup for the next few years , he can learn under PP and KG , do you really think none of their emotion and determination will rub off on Green?

It is very possible that the c's would be able to sign Green to a reasonable contract(8-10 mil) and still have room to add a max player .



It is more then just attracting other FA.


It is about being bad enough to land in the locations where you are most likely to draft the impact stars you need.  


Cheap potential and cap room, stuff that NBA trades are made up of.  

so you're plan is to let green walk and stink enough to get into the draft lottery ?

What if Green helps us win a championship this year and shows that he is learning under PP and KG. This kid is very athletic and has a versatile offensive game, I don't see the rush in getting rid of him before seeing what he can really do in a big game.


Waiting around hoping to get lucky in the draft seems like the c's from 04-07 . Why would you want to waste Rondo's prime years waiting for draft picks to develop when you already have a super athletic potential future all-star that already has 4 years of experience ?


and there is no way D Howard will come here if our plan is to get lucky in the draft and hopefully surround him with future stars that will take 3-5 years to develop .

Sorry not with you on this one



Howard comes if the Celtics have all the other money sunk into Rondo, Pierce and Pierce's backup?


No, the only way to get Howard is to sell him on Rondo, Pierce, Doc and the plan for the rest of the cap money.



I still think Green is trade bait that season. 


Green, Clipper 1st, and 1 to 2 of Boston's first to get a younger star to go with Rondo and Pierce.

Re: Green interested in re-signing with Celtics
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2011, 10:50:20 AM »

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saying you wouldn't sign Jeff Green because you don't have you're franchise player yet makes no sense to me. What is supposed to attract Dwight Howard here if we don't have more than Rondo and an Aging PP here ? Seriously that makes no sense whatsoever to me .

Obviously Danny is going to see what the new Salary Cap is before doing anything , but he will at least make in the 8 mil under the current CBA . And who cares if he is a backup for the next few years , he can learn under PP and KG , do you really think none of their emotion and determination will rub off on Green?

It is very possible that the c's would be able to sign Green to a reasonable contract(8-10 mil) and still have room to add a max player .



It is more then just attracting other FA.


It is about being bad enough to land in the locations where you are most likely to draft the impact stars you need.  


Cheap potential and cap room, stuff that NBA trades are made up of.  

so you're plan is to let green walk and stink enough to get into the draft lottery ?

What if Green helps us win a championship this year and shows that he is learning under PP and KG. This kid is very athletic and has a versatile offensive game, I don't see the rush in getting rid of him before seeing what he can really do in a big game.


Waiting around hoping to get lucky in the draft seems like the c's from 04-07 . Why would you want to waste Rondo's prime years waiting for draft picks to develop when you already have a super athletic potential future all-star that already has 4 years of experience ?


and there is no way D Howard will come here if our plan is to get lucky in the draft and hopefully surround him with future stars that will take 3-5 years to develop .

Sorry not with you on this one


I have to agree with RondoHondo on this one. It's not like Jeff Green is old or mediocre. I would not want to go back into the lottery and hope to get lucky

Re: Green interested in re-signing with Celtics
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2011, 11:05:53 AM »

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If they did let Jeff Green go + if they failed to acquire any of the top free agents (Dwight Howard) ...

I don't think they'd have much problem replacing Jeff Green with a comparable talent with their cap space somewhere further down the road.

It'd be more of a short term hit than a long term problem.

Re: Green interested in re-signing with Celtics
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2011, 11:20:51 AM »

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It's not the end of the franchise if he doesn't resign, just get Howard in 2012 and Josh Smith in 2013 when Pierce has 4 or 5 million in guaranteed salary.

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« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2011, 11:25:41 AM »

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They'll re-sign him.  They didn't trade away Perk just to rent Jeff Green.  They really like the kid. Seems like they've had their eye on him for a while. 
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Re: Green interested in re-signing with Celtics
« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2011, 11:30:53 AM »

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They'll re-sign him.  They didn't trade away Perk just to rent Jeff Green.  They really like the kid. Seems like they've had their eye on him for a while. 
I think so too.

I would be hugely surprised if Green wasn't locked up on a long term contract this summer.

Re: Green interested in re-signing with Celtics
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2011, 11:31:57 AM »

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They'll re-sign him.  They didn't trade away Perk just to rent Jeff Green.  They really like the kid. Seems like they've had their eye on him for a while. 

While I agree that they will more than likely sign him, I don't think it is a lock, since we have no idea what the CBA has in store.  Ultimately, I think that is why the pick was part of the deal.  OKC new they could sign Perk right now, but since Danny could not lock up Green before the summer, he insisted on the pick, so they have something to show for it if he walks.  

Re: Green interested in re-signing with Celtics
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2011, 12:08:23 PM »

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It probably will depend on how good Green and his agent think he is.  If they are under the impression that Green is a can't miss allstar in the future, it's not going to be worth it to try to sign him.  Green has been in the league for a while and still hasn't found his niche, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Re: Green interested in re-signing with Celtics
« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2011, 12:14:48 PM »

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It probably will depend on how good Green and his agent think he is.  If they are under the impression that Green is a can't miss allstar in the future, it's not going to be worth it to try to sign him.  Green has been in the league for a while and still hasn't found his niche, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out.


At last report, they thought they were good enough to ask for 10 million a year.