What's Jeff Green Worth?

[greensamurai]

With Pierce on the roster:  not worth the cap space.

I find all the posts about Green being the future hilarious.  We weren't gonna sign Perk what makes people think we're gonna mess up our 2012 free agency for this kid?

There is no way that Jeff Green is "the" future. He may be part of the future, but in my opinion, this guy is not someone around whom you build a team.

I don't think anybody is planning to build around Green. I'm pretty sure the plan is to build around Rondo. Green is just a nice complimentary piece, we haven't even seen what he can do when he gets in the system. Lets wait until the end of the year to pass judgment on the kid.

[Chris]

With Pierce on the roster:  not worth the cap space.

I find all the posts about Green being the future hilarious.  We weren't gonna sign Perk what makes people think we're gonna mess up our 2012 free agency for this kid?

There is no way that Jeff Green is "the" future. He may be part of the future, but in my opinion, this guy is not someone around whom you build a team.

Oh, I agree with this.  He is not a star.  However, I think he is a quality 2-way starter with the potential to be a borderline All-Star.  Those guys are worth above MLE type money, and they are good pieces to have around your core stars.

Now, the question is whether the C's should pay it...and that is a tough question, given their cap situation.  

Personally, I would be less hesitant to give Green that kind of money than Perk, simply because I think Green is a more well rounder player, and more importantly, I think he will be just as good if the team is mediocre than if they are great, where I think Perk would be significantly worse if he was not on a good team that can hide his offensive liabilities.  

Because Green is such a well rounded player, I think he is more likely to keep his value to be able to be moved if needed than a one way player would be, just because one-way players often get exposed too much when they get on a bad team, and then they become albatross contracts.  

[Cman]

I think the Celtics traded for Jeff Green with the idea that he was part of the long term plans for the team.  I like the idea of flexibility under the cap going forward, but this is why its nice to have that flexibility -- Danny now has the money to spend on a nice piece like Jeff Green.

[rondohondo]

Ray Allen was on NBATV last night after the Jazz game talking about how Green has the potential to be an all-star in this league, so it's not like we have our green colored glasses on overrating Jeff Green(like some on here do with Perk), it is a HOF player saying this.

Of course he is in our plans for the future. Danny was going to draft him in 2007 regardless of if we traded him or not. Danny and Doc both love his game .

[outcry]

I like how some people think Jeff Green is just a throw away player or something. This kid's got a lot of talent and he's athletic which will get him $8-10 mil/year. There are loads of fringe players who are making that much. Ainge isn't going to let go of Green because he's a player who will be entering his prime right around when Pierce's contract is up. He's a RFA after this year so he'll be in Ainge's control. I'm guessing Green will be looking for a 3-4 year deal so he can really cash in by the time he's 27-28.

[mgent]

With Pierce on the roster:  not worth the cap space.

I find all the posts about Green being the future hilarious.  We weren't gonna sign Perk what makes people think we're gonna mess up our 2012 free agency for this kid?

Pierce is 32, he's certainly not the future at this point. Green is 24, he's athletic and can run with Rondo. And newsflash, we're gonna need pieces in place to lure a big free agent in 2012 other than just Rondo.

Also, the main reason we weren't gonna sign Perk is because Danny's targeting Dwight Howard - a center - in 2012.

I don't think Jeff Green is talented enough to sway anyone into signing here.

(my expectations are for him to be a 12-14ppg scorer at SF with above average defense and solid rebounding)

AKA Paul Pierce.

[vinnie]

With Pierce on the roster:  not worth the cap space.

I find all the posts about Green being the future hilarious.  We weren't gonna sign Perk what makes people think we're gonna mess up our 2012 free agency for this kid?

Pierce is 32, he's certainly not the future at this point. Green is 24, he's athletic and can run with Rondo. And newsflash, we're gonna need pieces in place to lure a big free agent in 2012 other than just Rondo.

Also, the main reason we weren't gonna sign Perk is because Danny's targeting Dwight Howard - a center - in 2012.

I don't think Jeff Green is talented enough to sway anyone into signing here.

(my expectations are for him to be a 12-14ppg scorer at SF with above average defense and solid rebounding)

AKA Paul Pierce.

Are you saying Green is the next Paul Pierce?

[Chief]

I compare his talents to Marvin Williams. Williams contract is like 5 years for 35 million. He is always on the trade block and is always considered not to be living up to lofty expectations.

If we signed Jeff Green to 5 year for $35 million, I would not complain. But I don't think he'll ever live up to lofty expectation also.

[Toine43]

With Pierce on the roster:  not worth the cap space.

I find all the posts about Green being the future hilarious.  We weren't gonna sign Perk what makes people think we're gonna mess up our 2012 free agency for this kid?

Pierce is 32, he's certainly not the future at this point. Green is 24, he's athletic and can run with Rondo. And newsflash, we're gonna need pieces in place to lure a big free agent in 2012 other than just Rondo.

Also, the main reason we weren't gonna sign Perk is because Danny's targeting Dwight Howard - a center - in 2012.

I don't think Jeff Green is talented enough to sway anyone into signing here.

(my expectations are for him to be a 12-14ppg scorer at SF with above average defense and solid rebounding)

AKA Paul Pierce.

Pierce scores 12-14 ppg?

[birdwatcher]

The kid is in the last year of his first contract with his best year being last year when he avg 15pt 6rb 1.3st @ 45%fg 33%from 3. His year has been down a bit because of an injury early in the year and the emergence of Serge Ibaka who plays the same position as him. Ibaka is better equipped to play PF, so Green was the odd man out with Durant getting 90% of the minutes at the 3. He has a ton of potential, and I've had him on my fantasy teams the last two years and I've seen some really solid games from him. He really does have the potential to be an all-star, in fact Jon Barry was on WEEI this morning saying the same thing, and there have been many others that agree. He does need to play his natural position and he was not brought here as a band aid for this season--he's a piece. He's a solid #2 or #3 guy to build around. He hasn't even got to Boston yet and people are already thinking he sucks. Can you at least give him a week of practices?? Geez the guy everyone is crying about (Perk) took 6 years to come around and some of you aren't giving Green 6 days??

[Marcus13]

3 yrs / 18 million

[Jack_Frost]

He can sign he qualify offer fot next year. Then we will see.

[2short]

The future is rondo period.  imo Danny is getting ready for "round two" and building a tommy team around rondo.  Green is worth more than nate 

[LooseCannon]

I don't think anybody is planning to build around Green. I'm pretty sure the plan is to build around Rondo. Green is just a nice complimentary piece, we haven't even seen what he can do when he gets in the system. Lets wait until the end of the year to pass judgment on the kid.

I think Green is the kind of player that Ainge would/should want to get to build around Rondo.  Perkins was not.

[snively]

I compare his talents to Marvin Williams. Williams contract is like 5 years for 35 million. He is always on the trade block and is always considered not to be living up to lofty expectations.

If we signed Jeff Green to 5 year for $35 million, I would not complain. But I don't think he'll ever live up to lofty expectation also.

I'm actually hoping for a 1.5 year rental of Jeff Green, with him playing for his QO next season, or a sign and trade (for a shooting guard or power forward) this offseason or in 2012 (we'll have his Bird Rights in 2012, correct? Barring a change in the CBA of course).  With Pierce signed into 2013 for big money (and not an ideal candidate for playing the 2-guard full time at age 35/36), I don't see the point of locking so much money into Pierce's position when our cap space will be our primary means of replacing Ray, KG and our center position.  Unless we plan on dealing Pierce (highly unlikely) or he retires (ditto).

Besides I'm not crazy about Green's potential anyways.  He's a nice option as an athletic, skilled back-up 3 with the size to cover power 3s and quick 4s, but he's no more likely to become an all-star than Travis Outlaw or Marvin Williams.  It's not like playing out of position has kept his peers from showing more at a similar age.  Look at Danny Granger and Rudy Gay (not my favorite players, but they've shown a lot more a lot earlier).

I guess Danny could be contemplating moving forward with Jeff Green as a temporary 4/KG replacement until Pierce retires and then moving him back to his natural position.  A temporary up-tempo small-ball movement with Rondo during the transition period after the Big 3 fade to black.  Not crazy about that idea (I'd rather pursue Josh Smith in free agency or trade).