Was trade really necessary??

[BudweiserCeltic]

except for the fact that Perk is out for the next 3 weeks and who knows how he will be moving when he comes back ...

He moved pretty well coming back from a surgery...but a knee sprain casts doubts on his ability to rehab and come back?

fair enough, but Perk coming back healthy for the playoffs is way more likely than Shaq coming back healthy for the playoffs...and Shaq is the plan for starting center in the playoffs.

Yeah but the chances of Krstic being healthy for the playoffs is way way more likely than either of them.

Plus, from what are you basing the chances of Perk vs. Shaq being healthy for the playoffs other than your random speculation?

[winsomme]

except for the fact that Perk is out for the next 3 weeks and who knows how he will be moving when he comes back ...

He moved pretty well coming back from a surgery...but a knee sprain casts doubts on his ability to rehab and come back?

fair enough, but Perk coming back healthy for the playoffs is way more likely than Shaq coming back healthy for the playoffs...and Shaq is the plan for starting center in the playoffs.

Shaq is motivated to win over kobe. I want to see how he looks when he comes back. Did he lose some weight or has he rehabbed to come back strong.
Remember Doc and Shaq live in Orlando with DHoward too...any connections there yet.

achilles injuries are extremely reactive especially with a player of Shaq's age and size.

[winsomme]

except for the fact that Perk is out for the next 3 weeks and who knows how he will be moving when he comes back ...

He moved pretty well coming back from a surgery...but a knee sprain casts doubts on his ability to rehab and come back?

fair enough, but Perk coming back healthy for the playoffs is way more likely than Shaq coming back healthy for the playoffs...and Shaq is the plan for starting center in the playoffs.

Yeah but the chances of Krstic being healthy for the playoffs is way way more likely than either of them.

Plus, from what are you basing the chances of Perk vs. Shaq being healthy for the playoffs other than your random speculation?

age.

and if Kristic is our starting center in the playoffs, we aren't going anywhere...I'd rather start Murphy.

[jpurthe1]

except for the fact that Perk is out for the next 3 weeks and who knows how he will be moving when he comes back ...

He moved pretty well coming back from a surgery...but a knee sprain casts doubts on his ability to rehab and come back?

fair enough, but Perk coming back healthy for the playoffs is way more likely than Shaq coming back healthy for the playoffs...and Shaq is the plan for starting center in the playoffs.

Shaq is motivated to win over kobe. I want to see how he looks when he comes back. Did he lose some weight or has he rehabbed to come back strong.
Remember Doc and Shaq live in Orlando with DHoward too...any connections there yet.

achilles injuries are extremely reactive especially with a player of Shaq's age and size.

Do not always believe what DA  and Boston tell you. i think he is not injured, I think this was planned to see if the team could save Shaq and test Perk as well.

[barefacedmonk]

except for the fact that Perk is out for the next 3 weeks and who knows how he will be moving when he comes back ...

He moved pretty well coming back from a surgery...but a knee sprain casts doubts on his ability to rehab and come back?

fair enough, but Perk coming back healthy for the playoffs is way more likely than Shaq coming back healthy for the playoffs...and Shaq is the plan for starting center in the playoffs.

Shaq is motivated to win over kobe.

Perk had mentioned several times how he was motivated to go up against the Lakers if they were to meet in the finals again. He was quoted as saying that he could have helped on the boards...Gasol wouldn't have dominated that game like he did.

...and I think its fair to assume that every player on our team is very motivated to win a championship. This Shaq wants to win over Kobe makes for good read on espn...nothing else.

[winsomme]

except for the fact that Perk is out for the next 3 weeks and who knows how he will be moving when he comes back ...

He moved pretty well coming back from a surgery...but a knee sprain casts doubts on his ability to rehab and come back?

fair enough, but Perk coming back healthy for the playoffs is way more likely than Shaq coming back healthy for the playoffs...and Shaq is the plan for starting center in the playoffs.

Shaq is motivated to win over kobe.

Perk had mentioned several times how he was motivated to go up against the Lakers if they were to meet in the finals again. He was quoted as saying that he could have helped on the boards...Gasol wouldn't have dominated that game like he did.

...and I think its fair to assume that every player on our team is very motivated to win a championship. This Shaq wants to win over Kobe makes for good read on espn...nothing else.

yep. everyone knows that if Perk hadn't gone down we'd most likely have two Titles with this squad...

[Megatron]

I think this trade increases fast break points.

Rondo finally has a running mate.

[jpurthe1]

except for the fact that Perk is out for the next 3 weeks and who knows how he will be moving when he comes back ...

He moved pretty well coming back from a surgery...but a knee sprain casts doubts on his ability to rehab and come back?

fair enough, but Perk coming back healthy for the playoffs is way more likely than Shaq coming back healthy for the playoffs...and Shaq is the plan for starting center in the playoffs.

Shaq is motivated to win over kobe.

Perk had mentioned several times how he was motivated to go up against the Lakers if they were to meet in the finals again. He was quoted as saying that he could have helped on the boards...Gasol wouldn't have dominated that game like he did.

...and I think its fair to assume that every player on our team is very motivated to win a championship. This Shaq wants to win over Kobe makes for good read on espn...nothing else.

You are correct but the NBA and STERN would love to get that hype machine going in the playoffs.

Celtics - Lakers, Kobe - Shaq, KG - Gasol, Pierce - Artest.

Come on this is bigger than Perk - Lakers.

Yes we lost the boards but if our bench scored 5 points we win. We had only 6 points off the bench from 1 guy (BBD).

We lost because we stopped hitting shots, period. Then without Perk out and Rasheed tired out the boards grew exponentially. We hit shots the boards issue becomes a non issue.

[GreenBlood23]

People should have a read at this if they haven't seen it.

http://www.boston.com/sports/columnists/massarotti/2011/02/in_case_of_perkins_some_are_ac.html


Whats with the destroying the starting 5 or keeping starters intact? Haven't anyone saw our record? We played majority of the season without the supposedly real starting C:Perk, ended up having the best record in the east and one of the top defensive teams too. Now Perk is injured again for 2-3 wks maybe more. Ainge had to decide on whether to upgrade or stay the same. They obviously know more than anyone here regarding the health of the O'neals that this trade became the right choice for Danny. We got healthier with the trade, more scoring punch from the bench with the current roster now and people say we took a step backward? wow.

[BudweiserCeltic]

except for the fact that Perk is out for the next 3 weeks and who knows how he will be moving when he comes back ...

He moved pretty well coming back from a surgery...but a knee sprain casts doubts on his ability to rehab and come back?

fair enough, but Perk coming back healthy for the playoffs is way more likely than Shaq coming back healthy for the playoffs...and Shaq is the plan for starting center in the playoffs.

Shaq is motivated to win over kobe.

Perk had mentioned several times how he was motivated to go up against the Lakers if they were to meet in the finals again. He was quoted as saying that he could have helped on the boards...Gasol wouldn't have dominated that game like he did.

A lot of assumptions there. Go back and see how that series went and see what assurances you get about Gasol's game and rebounding. None.

Gasol was hard to stop since game 1 with or without Perk. In fact, Game 7 was his worst shooting night.

Obviously, Perk could have helped us in the rebound department. So could have some other center who could have played. Still, there were games when they out rebounded us with Perk in there... so, too much talk.

What needed to happen was for one of our main guys to step up, and none did. And when none of them could step up, we didn't have anyone on the bench to really step up instead of them.

[jpurthe1]

except for the fact that Perk is out for the next 3 weeks and who knows how he will be moving when he comes back ...

He moved pretty well coming back from a surgery...but a knee sprain casts doubts on his ability to rehab and come back?

fair enough, but Perk coming back healthy for the playoffs is way more likely than Shaq coming back healthy for the playoffs...and Shaq is the plan for starting center in the playoffs.

Shaq is motivated to win over kobe.

Perk had mentioned several times how he was motivated to go up against the Lakers if they were to meet in the finals again. He was quoted as saying that he could have helped on the boards...Gasol wouldn't have dominated that game like he did.

A lot of assumptions there. Go back and see how that series went and see what assurances you get about Gasol's game and rebounding. None.

Gasol was hard to stop since game 1 with or without Perk. In fact, Game 7 was his worst shooting night.

Obviously, Perk could have helped us in the rebound department. So could have some other center who could have played. Still, there were games when they out rebounded us with Perk in there... so, too much talk.

What needed to happen was for one of our main guys to step up, and none did. And when none of them could step up, we didn't have anyone on the bench to really step up instead of them.

BINGO!!!

[rondohondo]

except for the fact that Perk is out for the next 3 weeks and who knows how he will be moving when he comes back ...

He moved pretty well coming back from a surgery...but a knee sprain casts doubts on his ability to rehab and come back?

fair enough, but Perk coming back healthy for the playoffs is way more likely than Shaq coming back healthy for the playoffs...and Shaq is the plan for starting center in the playoffs.

Shaq is motivated to win over kobe.

Perk had mentioned several times how he was motivated to go up against the Lakers if they were to meet in the finals again. He was quoted as saying that he could have helped on the boards...Gasol wouldn't have dominated that game like he did.

...and I think its fair to assume that every player on our team is very motivated to win a championship. This Shaq wants to win over Kobe makes for good read on espn...nothing else.

yep. everyone knows that if Perk hadn't gone down we'd most likely have two Titles with this squad...

if we had shaq we would have won last year, if ray didn't go 3-14 we would have won. If PP didn't have to play 46 mins he would have without a doubt been much fresher and maybe we score a fewe extra baskets.

It wasn't just perk being out that lostg us game 7, that is such a cop out.

With Jeff Green on the roster ray and PP won't have to play 45+ mins without have a legit scorer/defender to let them rest.

[barefacedmonk]

You are correct but the NBA and STERN would love to get that hype machine going in the playoffs.

Celtics-Lakers rivalry is pretty hyped up as it is...Shaq, Perk or Kobe aren't going to add much to it....and NBA's markeing department does a very good job of hyping up players/series etc. Miami Heat, LeBron etc are all products of this hype machine.

Yes we lost the boards but if our bench scored 5 points we win. We had only 6 points off the bench from 1 guy (BBD).

True. The Bench should have helped more...but Marquis was a member of that bench too...and this trade wouldn't have taken place if he hadn't gone down against Orlando. So we could have met Lakers with almost the same bench again.

Or if Rondo had a reliable jumper, he could have given us those 5 points we needed to win the trophy.

[winsomme]

except for the fact that Perk is out for the next 3 weeks and who knows how he will be moving when he comes back ...

He moved pretty well coming back from a surgery...but a knee sprain casts doubts on his ability to rehab and come back?

fair enough, but Perk coming back healthy for the playoffs is way more likely than Shaq coming back healthy for the playoffs...and Shaq is the plan for starting center in the playoffs.

Shaq is motivated to win over kobe.

Perk had mentioned several times how he was motivated to go up against the Lakers if they were to meet in the finals again. He was quoted as saying that he could have helped on the boards...Gasol wouldn't have dominated that game like he did.

A lot of assumptions there. Go back and see how that series went and see what assurances you get about Gasol's game and rebounding. None.

Gasol was hard to stop since game 1 with or without Perk. In fact, Game 7 was his worst shooting night.

Obviously, Perk could have helped us in the rebound department. So could have some other center who could have played. Still, there were games when they out rebounded us with Perk in there... so, too much talk.

What needed to happen was for one of our main guys to step up, and none did. And when none of them could step up, we didn't have anyone on the bench to really step up instead of them.

we were up 3-2 in the series before Perk went down...it is not a stretch to say we would have won the Title if Perk had not gone down.

[GreenBlood23]

except for the fact that Perk is out for the next 3 weeks and who knows how he will be moving when he comes back ...

He moved pretty well coming back from a surgery...but a knee sprain casts doubts on his ability to rehab and come back?

fair enough, but Perk coming back healthy for the playoffs is way more likely than Shaq coming back healthy for the playoffs...and Shaq is the plan for starting center in the playoffs.

Shaq is motivated to win over kobe.

Perk had mentioned several times how he was motivated to go up against the Lakers if they were to meet in the finals again. He was quoted as saying that he could have helped on the boards...Gasol wouldn't have dominated that game like he did.

...and I think its fair to assume that every player on our team is very motivated to win a championship. This Shaq wants to win over Kobe makes for good read on espn...nothing else.

yep. everyone knows that if Perk hadn't gone down we'd most likely have two Titles with this squad...

He might have done something about the rebounds but highly doubt he could have done anything to the other, bigger issue in that game, which was our dry offense.