Why do people think we need a point guard?

[LooseCannon]

Because the probability that the team has at least one healthy O'Neal at all times during the playoffs is bigger than the probability that Delonte West is healthy throughout the playoffs.

[kg is king]

It's called depth and we have 3 open roster spots.

[BballTim]

Because the probability that the team has at least one healthy O'Neal at all times during the playoffs is bigger than the probability that Delonte West is healthy throughout the playoffs.

  Nothing about that post makes me feel good.

[csfansince60s]

Jason Williams? Just a suggestion!

There is a Williams I would like for us to give a look-see to and he's not a point guard.

Sean Williams based on talent alone is worth a look, baggage and all.

All his BC buddies he always got in trouble with, even after getting bounced from BC must be long gone now.

[The DarkPassenger]

We need another PG to ensure that IF something happens to West because he could get re-injured since he came back early and he is on a bit of a short leash cause of the off the court things.

If something happens and West can't play for some or all of the playoffs who is the backup? I don't want to put that kind of pressure on Bradley, he's not ready, nor do I want Rondo playing 48 minutes a night so that's why.

I don't know who they try to get... maybe Bibby (hope not) or Jason Williams or T.J. Ford. Jason would be okay just because he has playoff experience. I also like the idea of Sean Williams... the BC forward/center kid who is tearing up the d-league. As someone else said he could be worth the risk... give him a West-like leash... maybe shorter.

[Jon]

I don't think it's a matter of "needing" a point guard so much as it is a matter of actually getting one who is actually worth getting. 

Simply put, Mike Bibby and T.J. Ford will not come here to play 5-8 mpg behind Rondo in the playoffs.  The only player coming here to backup Rondo is some borderline NBA type.  And if that's the case, what's the point of carrying him when we already have a borderline NBA backup PG in Avery Bradley? 

So yes, you can argue that if Delonte goes down we need someone.  But I don't think that Bibby or Ford will come here to backup Rondo when they could go start on Miami. 

[action781]

Now, all the talk is about signing 3 buyouts.  Ummm... that means only 1 of them make the playoff roster.

No. Roster size rules don’t change for the playoffs. Same rules as the regular season. The roster must have 13, 14, or 15 players at all times. No more than 12 can dress for any game, and that decsion can come as late as an hour before game time.

Right, I understood that, sorry for being unclear.  But what veteran wants to make the 15 man roster, but not dress for the games in the playoffs is what I meant?

[wiley]

Haven't read the other posts yet.  IMO too risky with only Delonte at the point backing up.  That would mean an injury to either Rondo or Delonte would be devastating, unless Jeff Green can bring the ball over half court with relative ease......

Rondo can't play 48 minutes every game.....  especially with all the playoff games in his recent history...

[Jon]

Haven't read the other posts yet.  IMO too risky with only Delonte at the point backing up.  That would mean an injury to either Rondo or Delonte would be devastating, unless Jeff Green can bring the ball over half court with relative ease......

Rondo can't play 48 minutes every game.....  especially with all the playoff games in his recent history...

But again, if you're Danny Ainge, what do you pitch Mike Bibby? 

Hey Mike, you should come to Boston.  It's a great fit for you.  Our benches are very comfortable.  You'll really like it there as you watch Rondo play 40+ mpg in the playoffs.  What's that Mike?  Oh yeah, you'll get those 8 mpg...well, that is unless Doc wants to go with Delonte instead.  But there's always that shot that one of them goes down...

I know, it'd be nice if Bibby or Ford did that.  But I don't know why they would when they could play a much bigger role in Miami.

[wiley]

Haven't read the other posts yet.  IMO too risky with only Delonte at the point backing up.  That would mean an injury to either Rondo or Delonte would be devastating, unless Jeff Green can bring the ball over half court with relative ease......

Rondo can't play 48 minutes every game.....  especially with all the playoff games in his recent history...

But again, if you're Danny Ainge, what do you pitch Mike Bibby? 

Hey Mike, you should come to Boston.  It's a great fit for you.  Our benches are very comfortable.  You'll really like it there as you watch Rondo play 40+ mpg in the playoffs.  What's that Mike?  Oh yeah, you'll get those 8 mpg...well, that is unless Doc wants to go with Delonte instead.  But there's always that shot that one of them goes down...

I know, it'd be nice if Bibby or Ford did that.  But I don't know why they would when they could play a much bigger role in Miami.

I agree, those two sound a little decadent for our needs, unless Wafer is not wanted at backup SG and Delonte gets all the backup SG minutes, combined with a determination not to overplay Ray and Paul.  Then one of those 2 would be feasible....

But if not one of them still might agree to come aboard (not Bibby please....) if they're given the keys to full-time backup PG next year....I mean, they could watch the playoffs from their living rooms or from the C's bench plus the ring, then take over a much bigger role next year....On the other hand, I'm hoping Avery Bradley is next year's backup SG, and in that scenario Delonte would continue as next year's backup PG...hmmm.  I wasn't thinking about those guys, though.  I was thinking of someone who can get the ball to to the main guys for 8 to 10 minutes.  

Then I had another thought.  What if all our PG's went down (sorry guys).  How would Ray do as the starting PG alongside Pierce, Jeff Green, KG and Shaq?  I actually don't like when Ray handles the ball alot, but I suddenly became curious about that lineup.  Maybe doing it for extended minutes he'd suddenly teach himself to be ultra careful with the ball (think Rocky Balboa doing amazing things to overcome the situation....)

[Brendan]

Let's assume they go Shaq, KG, PP, Ray, Rondo for starters.

Bench:

West can play PG or SG
Wafer can play wing
Green play either forward slot
BBD can play either big spot
Kristic and JO at center

Plus Pierce and Allen can play either wing spot. Greatest risk is Rondo or West being out. They should sign a vet PG for insurance.

[Rondo9dunx]

Let's assume they go Shaq, KG, PP, Ray, Rondo for starters.

Bench:

West can play PG or SG
Wafer can play wing
Green play either forward slot
BBD can play either big spot
Kristic and JO at center

Plus Pierce and Allen can play either wing spot. Greatest risk is Rondo or West being out. They should sign a vet PG for insurance.

Yea, PG and SF are the only positions where we dont have 3 players. SF I think is covered pretty well with the 2 we have, but i'd like another PG to backup Rondo incase Delonte ends up backing up ray most of the time while wafer rides the bench in the playoffs (i hope)

[Rondo9dunx]

And if any of you think bibby would ever come here quit dreamin, got a better chance of manny and damon comin back to the sox

[Jon]

Haven't read the other posts yet.  IMO too risky with only Delonte at the point backing up.  That would mean an injury to either Rondo or Delonte would be devastating, unless Jeff Green can bring the ball over half court with relative ease......

Rondo can't play 48 minutes every game.....  especially with all the playoff games in his recent history...

But again, if you're Danny Ainge, what do you pitch Mike Bibby? 

Hey Mike, you should come to Boston.  It's a great fit for you.  Our benches are very comfortable.  You'll really like it there as you watch Rondo play 40+ mpg in the playoffs.  What's that Mike?  Oh yeah, you'll get those 8 mpg...well, that is unless Doc wants to go with Delonte instead.  But there's always that shot that one of them goes down...

I know, it'd be nice if Bibby or Ford did that.  But I don't know why they would when they could play a much bigger role in Miami.

I agree, those two sound a little decadent for our needs, unless Wafer is not wanted at backup SG and Delonte gets all the backup SG minutes, combined with a determination not to overplay Ray and Paul.  Then one of those 2 would be feasible....

But if not one of them still might agree to come aboard (not Bibby please....) if they're given the keys to full-time backup PG next year....I mean, they could watch the playoffs from their living rooms or from the C's bench plus the ring, then take over a much bigger role next year....On the other hand, I'm hoping Avery Bradley is next year's backup SG, and in that scenario Delonte would continue as next year's backup PG...hmmm.  I wasn't thinking about those guys, though.  I was thinking of someone who can get the ball to to the main guys for 8 to 10 minutes.  

Then I had another thought.  What if all our PG's went down (sorry guys).  How would Ray do as the starting PG alongside Pierce, Jeff Green, KG and Shaq?  I actually don't like when Ray handles the ball alot, but I suddenly became curious about that lineup.  Maybe doing it for extended minutes he'd suddenly teach himself to be ultra careful with the ball (think Rocky Balboa doing amazing things to overcome the situation....)

Well, the trouble is to get Green 25+ mpg without cutting too far into Baby's minutes (which could be somewhat in jeopardy), we really are going to have to start playing Pierce at the 2 spot next to Green at the 3 (especially in the playoffs).  If this is the case, West is going to have to almost exclusively play at the 1 to get minutes (maybe getting a handful at the 2).  

As for that lineup you suggested.  I don't think we'd win a title with it; however, it'd be an interesting one to experiment with.  It'd be interesting to try it against Orlando.  Jameer Nelson is on the slower side as far as PGs go, so he wouldn't burn up Ray like other quicker PGs.  And Ray could abuse him in the post, as could Pierce with Richardson.  

[wiley]

Yeah it would crash and burn against some linueps pdq.  Be interesting to see how long it could float.  

I'd pay to see if Doc could still get the ball over half court in an NBA game.