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Re: Trade Bad for Thunder
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2011, 10:32:46 PM »

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No you are wrong. Don't forget Perk shared the floor with the worst shooting Guard in NBA history Rajon Rondo AKA space killer. In OKC Perk will have more space to roam in the paint. If his man leave to help out on anyone Easy putback layup for Perk.

Scary starting lineup: Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka, and Perkins.

that's that's the main reason Perk rode the bench in crunchtime, and why we made the trade. He clogs up the floor with his lack of shooting.

But he is a CENTER! He doesn't need to have a jumpshot. The black-hole on offense was Rajon Rondo and his lack of shooting at the 1. It forced Ainge to reshuffle the championship starting 5 to compensate for Rondo's weaknesses.

Or you could look through the half-full glass and note that Rondo's so good that he's worth maximizing and not restricting.
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Re: Trade Bad for Thunder
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2011, 10:40:59 PM »

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No you are wrong. Don't forget Perk shared the floor with the worst shooting Guard in NBA history Rajon Rondo AKA space killer. In OKC Perk will have more space to roam in the paint. If his man leave to help out on anyone Easy putback layup for Perk.

Scary starting lineup: Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka, and Perkins.

  Perk's man left him in Boston and it wasn't always an easy layup.

  Oh, and Sefolosha starts, not Harden. He has a lower eFG% on his jumpers than Rondo. So does Westbrook. So does Collison, who plays almost as many minutes as Ibaka. You're kidding of you think that those guys + Durant will take up more attention from a defense than PP/KG/RA.

Re: Trade Bad for Thunder
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2011, 10:59:42 PM »

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No you are wrong. Don't forget Perk shared the floor with the worst shooting Guard in NBA history Rajon Rondo AKA space killer. In OKC Perk will have more space to roam in the paint. If his man leave to help out on anyone Easy putback layup for Perk.

Scary starting lineup: Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka, and Perkins.

  Perk's man left him in Boston and it wasn't always an easy layup.

  Oh, and Sefolosha starts, not Harden. He has a lower eFG% on his jumpers than Rondo. So does Westbrook. So does Collison, who plays almost as many minutes as Ibaka. You're kidding of you think that those guys + Durant will take up more attention from a defense than PP/KG/RA.

Really have to wonder what these guys at ESPN are smoking. Thunder are not that deep and their talent is still raw. Perk will solidify things defensively and will get more scoring opps than in Boston, but no way does that deal catapult them to the next level as has been suggested. Even if Perk shuts down Howard in a game like tonight's, the Thunder's offense was totally dysfunctional and they were only missing two pieces.

Against Denver we were missing one starter (Shaq) and two players from our second unit (Nate and Quis). Delonte is only 60% so is even worse than that.

We took two starting players (one a top 5 selection) from a very good young team and sent them one starter and a loose cannon. Their starters will be on our second unit. How do we end up on the short end here. I really don't get it.

and we get a 1st rounder!


Re: Trade Bad for Thunder
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2011, 11:07:31 PM »

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No you are wrong. Don't forget Perk shared the floor with the worst shooting Guard in NBA history Rajon Rondo AKA space killer. In OKC Perk will have more space to roam in the paint. If his man leave to help out on anyone Easy putback layup for Perk.

Scary starting lineup: Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka, and Perkins.

  Perk's man left him in Boston and it wasn't always an easy layup.

  Oh, and Sefolosha starts, not Harden. He has a lower eFG% on his jumpers than Rondo. So does Westbrook. So does Collison, who plays almost as many minutes as Ibaka. You're kidding of you think that those guys + Durant will take up more attention from a defense than PP/KG/RA.

Yeah Perk's extremely slow reaction time (especially bad post-injury) and non-existent range made it remarkably easy for defenders to double off Perk and recover in time to bother or block the shot.  A shame too.  For awhile there in 2009 he was actually a decent threat offensively.
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Re: Trade Bad for Thunder
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2011, 11:18:16 PM »

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Love the trasde for the Thunder. They got exactly what they needed; a long young defensive minded center that could bash with the big boys on the other title contenders. Thats exactly what Perk gives them. How many teams has a run and gun team won a championship? Perks presence should slow them down a tad and put much more emphasis on defense. Stephalosha(sp) and Perk in the same starting lineup provides for a pretty sweet defensive line up. Westbrook and Durant already cover the scoring for that lineup.

Re: Trade Bad for Thunder
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2011, 11:19:57 PM »

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Love the trasde for the Thunder. They got exactly what they needed; a long young defensive minded center that could bash with the big boys on the other title contenders. Thats exactly what Perk gives them. How many teams has a run and gun team won a championship? Perks presence should slow them down a tad and put much more emphasis on defense. Stephalosha(sp) and Perk in the same starting lineup provides for a pretty sweet defensive line up. Westbrook and Durant already cover the scoring for that lineup.

not sure
Green always cover them for bad days
I saw a lot of okc games this year
and even when westbrook and durant have been great they also had a couple of lost games

thats where green got his average.
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Re: Trade Bad for Thunder
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2011, 11:22:21 PM »

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No you are wrong. Don't forget Perk shared the floor with the worst shooting Guard in NBA history Rajon Rondo AKA space killer. In OKC Perk will have more space to roam in the paint. If his man leave to help out on anyone Easy putback layup for Perk.

Scary starting lineup: Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka, and Perkins.

that's that's the main reason Perk rode the bench in crunchtime, and why we made the trade. He clogs up the floor with his lack of shooting.

But he is a CENTER! He doesn't need to have a jumpshot. The black-hole on offense was Rajon Rondo and his lack of shooting at the 1. It forced Ainge to reshuffle the championship starting 5 to compensate for Rondo's weaknesses.

Not at all. Did you listen to a word Danny Ainge said yesterday? Sure Rondo is a bad jump shooter, but he is a great penetration and getting to the rim. If we have a big "center" in there who can't do anything but stand in the lane hoping for easy layups, then that means the other teams large center will also be in the lane. Therefore, making it much much harder for Rondo to do what he does and get to the rim.

Getting shooters who we can play late instead of a big man to clog the lane helps Rondo at the end of the game. Ainge said this himself. This will help Rondo, therefore you know it was a big reason he made the trade.

Re: Trade Bad for Thunder
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2011, 11:24:04 PM »

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No you are wrong. Don't forget Perk shared the floor with the worst shooting Guard in NBA history Rajon Rondo AKA space killer. In OKC Perk will have more space to roam in the paint. If his man leave to help out on anyone Easy putback layup for Perk.

Scary starting lineup: Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka, and Perkins.

that's that's the main reason Perk rode the bench in crunchtime, and why we made the trade. He clogs up the floor with his lack of shooting.

But he is a CENTER! He doesn't need to have a jumpshot. The black-hole on offense was Rajon Rondo and his lack of shooting at the 1. It forced Ainge to reshuffle the championship starting 5 to compensate for Rondo's weaknesses.

Not at all. Did you listen to a word Danny Ainge said yesterday? Sure Rondo is a bad jump shooter, but he is a great penetration and getting to the rim. If we have a big "center" in there who can't do anything but stand in the lane hoping for easy layups, then that means the other teams large center will also be in the lane. Therefore, making it much much harder for Rondo to do what he does and get to the rim.

Getting shooters who we can play late instead of a big man to clog the lane helps Rondo at the end of the game. Ainge said this himself. This will help Rondo, therefore you know it was a big reason he made the trade.

thank you for putting into words what I wanted to say

Re: Trade Bad for Thunder
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2011, 11:29:35 PM »

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No you are wrong. Don't forget Perk shared the floor with the worst shooting Guard in NBA history Rajon Rondo AKA space killer. In OKC Perk will have more space to roam in the paint. If his man leave to help out on anyone Easy putback layup for Perk.

Scary starting lineup: Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka, and Perkins.

that's that's the main reason Perk rode the bench in crunchtime, and why we made the trade. He clogs up the floor with his lack of shooting.

But he is a CENTER! He doesn't need to have a jumpshot. The black-hole on offense was Rajon Rondo and his lack of shooting at the 1. It forced Ainge to reshuffle the championship starting 5 to compensate for Rondo's weaknesses.

Not at all. Did you listen to a word Danny Ainge said yesterday? Sure Rondo is a bad jump shooter, but he is a great penetration and getting to the rim. If we have a big "center" in there who can't do anything but stand in the lane hoping for easy layups, then that means the other teams large center will also be in the lane. Therefore, making it much much harder for Rondo to do what he does and get to the rim.
Another reason Danny cited last night was that Shaq was a better fit with the starters...but the last time I checked Shaq clogs up the lane more than any center we have or have had in the recent years...so all this "Rondo's penetration will improve etc." is all bull crap.

We won a championship with Perk as our center...we'll see how much difference Krstic makes. We took a step back imo.
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Re: Trade Bad for Thunder
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2011, 11:33:44 PM »

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No you are wrong. Don't forget Perk shared the floor with the worst shooting Guard in NBA history Rajon Rondo AKA space killer. In OKC Perk will have more space to roam in the paint. If his man leave to help out on anyone Easy putback layup for Perk.

Scary starting lineup: Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka, and Perkins.

that's that's the main reason Perk rode the bench in crunchtime, and why we made the trade. He clogs up the floor with his lack of shooting.

But he is a CENTER! He doesn't need to have a jumpshot. The black-hole on offense was Rajon Rondo and his lack of shooting at the 1. It forced Ainge to reshuffle the championship starting 5 to compensate for Rondo's weaknesses.

Not at all. Did you listen to a word Danny Ainge said yesterday? Sure Rondo is a bad jump shooter, but he is a great penetration and getting to the rim. If we have a big "center" in there who can't do anything but stand in the lane hoping for easy layups, then that means the other teams large center will also be in the lane. Therefore, making it much much harder for Rondo to do what he does and get to the rim.
Another reason Danny cited last night was that Shaq was a better fit with the starters...but the last time I checked Shaq clogs up the lane more than any center we have or have had in the recent years...so all this "Rondo's penetration will improve etc." is all bull crap.

We won a championship with Perk as our center...we'll see how much difference Krstic makes. We took a step back imo.

Green and Kristic will unclog the lane for us. When we won in 2008, Posey played the 4 and KG the 5 in key stretched because Perkins clogged things up, and it worked wonderfully. Green is the new Posey, and Doc loves it.

Re: Trade Bad for Thunder
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2011, 11:35:07 PM »

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We won a championship with Perk as our center...we'll see how much difference Krstic makes. We took a step back imo.
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imo this is an unfinished business so
sometiomes you have to take a step back to take impulse.
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Re: Trade Bad for Thunder
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2011, 11:40:54 PM »

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No you are wrong. Don't forget Perk shared the floor with the worst shooting Guard in NBA history Rajon Rondo AKA space killer. In OKC Perk will have more space to roam in the paint. If his man leave to help out on anyone Easy putback layup for Perk.

Scary starting lineup: Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka, and Perkins.

that's that's the main reason Perk rode the bench in crunchtime, and why we made the trade. He clogs up the floor with his lack of shooting.

But he is a CENTER! He doesn't need to have a jumpshot. The black-hole on offense was Rajon Rondo and his lack of shooting at the 1. It forced Ainge to reshuffle the championship starting 5 to compensate for Rondo's weaknesses.

Not at all. Did you listen to a word Danny Ainge said yesterday? Sure Rondo is a bad jump shooter, but he is a great penetration and getting to the rim. If we have a big "center" in there who can't do anything but stand in the lane hoping for easy layups, then that means the other teams large center will also be in the lane. Therefore, making it much much harder for Rondo to do what he does and get to the rim.

Getting shooters who we can play late instead of a big man to clog the lane helps Rondo at the end of the game. Ainge said this himself. This will help Rondo, therefore you know it was a big reason he made the trade.

Great, More Long Jump-Shots. Exactly what Celtics needed. Long, Long, Long shots without anyone to collect those bricks. Maybe I'm naive but I prefer a conventional Center. Someone who tough as nails, fights for every inch inside the paints, plays angry, and punks the daylight out of players.........Sorta Like Oklahoma Thunder Starting Center Kendrick Perkins. I truly believe this is a step back in the wrong direction. Ainge took away Celtics strength for a bench players. I hope I'm wrong but this could get ugly. Taking huge gamble on O'neal Brother Health. Yikes!

Re: Trade Bad for Thunder
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2011, 11:41:31 PM »

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No you are wrong. Don't forget Perk shared the floor with the worst shooting Guard in NBA history Rajon Rondo AKA space killer. In OKC Perk will have more space to roam in the paint. If his man leave to help out on anyone Easy putback layup for Perk.

Scary starting lineup: Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka, and Perkins.

that's that's the main reason Perk rode the bench in crunchtime, and why we made the trade. He clogs up the floor with his lack of shooting.

But he is a CENTER! He doesn't need to have a jumpshot. The black-hole on offense was Rajon Rondo and his lack of shooting at the 1. It forced Ainge to reshuffle the championship starting 5 to compensate for Rondo's weaknesses.

Not at all. Did you listen to a word Danny Ainge said yesterday? Sure Rondo is a bad jump shooter, but he is a great penetration and getting to the rim. If we have a big "center" in there who can't do anything but stand in the lane hoping for easy layups, then that means the other teams large center will also be in the lane. Therefore, making it much much harder for Rondo to do what he does and get to the rim.
Another reason Danny cited last night was that Shaq was a better fit with the starters...but the last time I checked Shaq clogs up the lane more than any center we have or have had in the recent years...so all this "Rondo's penetration will improve etc." is all bull crap.

We won a championship with Perk as our center...we'll see how much difference Krstic makes. We took a step back imo.

Green and Kristic will unclog the lane for us. When we won in 2008, Posey played the 4 and KG the 5 in key stretched because Perkins clogged things up, and it worked wonderfully. Green is the new Posey, and Doc loves it.
Posey was an excellent defender...Green..we'll see. This clog the lane/unclog the lane is highly over-rated imo. Anyway, a big majority of you guys here are very happy with this trade...so, I don't want to ruin anything. Please continue to rejoice and bash Perk.
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Re: Trade Bad for Thunder
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2011, 11:45:08 PM »

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really

really

How many games of POKC people watched this year
as someone who saw at least 20 incomplete games i will say
the kid know his stuff
he will help more than perk
And longer
and healthier
Theres still time to go to see if KG will have to play center a lot this year
willsee
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Re: Trade Bad for Thunder
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