Is Perk better and more important than Kevin Garnett?

[BudweiserCeltic]

I really have to ask because the reaction of the sky is falling has me scratching my head. Let's go back 2 years.

In the playoffs, no Kevin Garnett. No Powe. No backup SF, only TA who was also injured. No backup PG, unless you count Marbury. Big Baby starting PF. Scal playing with his head on the clouds coming off a couple of concussions. Rondo playing injured. Ray Allen playing a bit hurt. Paul Pierce playing completely out of gas. And Perk. And Miki Moore playing against us.

What does that add to? First round exit on a sweep right? Well, we got to 2nd round and we lost on a series that we were in position to win against the eventual Eastern Conference Champs in 7 games.

So I have to ask, Is Perk better/more important than Garnett?

[Eja117]

Sort of in a Adam Viniateri is more important than Brady sort of way.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Sort of in a Adam Viniateri is more important than Brady sort of way.

Crap, we're screwed then. No wonder the Patriots haven't won since.

[Eja117]

Sort of in a Adam Viniateri is more important than Brady sort of way.

Crap, we're screwed then. No wonder the Patriots haven't won since.

It would be funny if they had won since. 

[Spilling Green Dye]

Just when I thought the "stick a fork in this team, we're done" was the most ridiculous thread title, this one goes and tops it.

In what way is Perkins better than Garnett?  Garnett is the best defensive PF of all time, and is still playing team defense at an extraordinary level.  Then throw in that Garnett is a quality offensive player, whereas Perkins is not even close to good offensively, and this argument becomes utterly absurd.

I think I need to take a hiatus from Celticsblog for 2-3 weeks until sanity prevails around here.

[bbd24]

No. People are overvaluing Perkins.  He's had 4 all stars playing with him . That makes your game better as is. Shaq and JO can get it done, and guys like Murphy, Camby, or Dalembert help the roster greatly as well.

You already proved you can win without Perkins and with a healthy Shaq.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Just when I thought the "stick a fork in this team, we're done" was the most ridiculous thread title, this one goes and tops it.

In what way is Perkins better than Garnett?  Garnett is the best defensive PF of all time, and is still playing team defense at an extraordinary level.  Then throw in that Garnett is a quality offensive player, whereas Perkins is not even close to good offensively, and this argument becomes utterly absurd.

I think I need to take a hiatus from Celticsblog for 2-3 weeks until sanity prevails around here.

What about you go and read the thread and get the context of the thread title? But this time imagine that I'm making fun of people for the Perk overreaction. After you have done so, let me know of your opinion.

[Onslaught]

Is he better or more important? God no.
Has he complemented KG's game and helped each other? Yes

Perk isn't the best big man out there. But he's really good and I think people her undervalue him. I just don't get it either.

[LilRip]

I really have to ask because the reaction of the sky is falling has me scratching my head. Let's go back 2 years.

In the playoffs, no Kevin Garnett. No Powe. No backup SF, only TA who was also injured. No backup PG, unless you count Marbury. Big Baby starting PF. Scal playing with his head on the clouds coming off a couple of concussions. Rondo playing injured. Ray Allen playing a bit hurt. Paul Pierce playing completely out of gas. And Perk. And Miki Moore playing against us.

What does that add to? First round exit on a sweep right? Well, we got to 2nd round and we lost on a series that we were in position to win against the eventual Eastern Conference Champs in 7 games.

So I have to ask, Is Perk better/more important than Garnett?

not really, when Rondo averages a triple-double in the first round among other things.

[Jon]

Like the "wrong member of the Starting 5" thread, no, Perk is not better and more important than KG.  In fact, I'd struggle to think of anything that Perk is better at than KG except perhaps defending Dwight Howard, and even then, I wouldn't put anything past KG on the defensive end. 

[tyrone biggums]

Three points that are applicable to this post

1) 33-10: This is the record the Celtics had before Perk came back

2) Yes, the Celtics lost game seven without Perk in the middle but it didn't help that the Celtics lacked size up the middle. If the Celtics even had a serviceable big to get the vets off the court for an extra 5-7 minutes, perhaps the outcome would have been different

3)Perkins numbers before KG arrived were not really all that great as he needs to be on the front court with a scoring power forward in order to truly be successful IMHO. Hes a top 10 center, and in the East hes excellent, however perhaps Perkins value finally peaked and we had an excellent opportunity to buy low on quite a talent. Jeff Green has not been shabby at all since coming into the league, hes never gotten the opportunity to settle into a position (won't here for a while, if he stays past next season) some posters here are treating him as an absolute bust. Hes had solid numbers and is only going to mature, just like Perkins did.

Clifford Ray/Doc Rivers have shown that they can get the most out of players in this system, and they achieved that with Perkins. I'll say this, if the Celtics don't win this year it will be because we lost a key defensive player, Tony Allen. That's the one guy Kobe HATED to face on this team, had the speed and the quickness to hang with him. Can't blame him for jumping for a starting gig though. 

[Roy H.]

I'm not following the logic.  Is your argument that we'll get farther than losing in the second round?  If so... yay, I guess.  I didn't know they handed out trophies for that.

The only thing that matters is a championship, and I don't think this trade sets us up as well for a championship run as the alternative (keep Perk + add wing) would have.

[BballTim]

  There are two components to which player (abstract, not KG vs Perk) is more important. How good the players are and how good their backups are. If Delonte gets injured so Rondo's backup is Bradley and PP's backup is Green, we're much better without Paul than without Rajon. If Green gets injured so PP's backup is Wafer and Rondo's backup is Delonte then we're much better without Rajon than without Paul.

  We used to fare better without Larry than without Robert because Wedman (Bird's backup) was a better player than Robey or Kite or the like.

[GreenBlood23]

Just when I thought the "stick a fork in this team, we're done" was the most ridiculous thread title, this one goes and tops it.

You should see the "Danny traded the wrong member of the starting 5" 

[fairweatherfan]

Short answer, no.

Long answer, noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.